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HOW TO RESTORE PATNET TO ITS FORMER GLORY:
me123 saysIt appears you rather bitch about it instead of taking the easy step.
You have any suggestions for @Patrick ?
It's clear I'm just supposed to put spammers on ignore even though they're creating alt's left and right. I'm supposed to just be cool with that. Please enlighten us why a bot and/or user spamming the site makes it better?
I'll be waiting.
You’ve got to be fucking kidding. You’re responding to the biggest troll I’ve ever come across in all my history of Internet forums.
Lot's of people have bad opinions though.
It's points like this where many active users here just drag it down into the gutter.
But I like fact-finding, discovering truths that are not well publicized.
I don't think that allowing other people to edit other's posts will work. Too many trolls around here that would vandalize.
the main defining property of a Wiki is that it has only one article/thread/post per topic. Having if not exactly one, then at least fewer redundant articles per topic would be a huge improvement.
Me too, like the article about the Sackler family.
Or is that too confining, if someone just wants to make an observation?
I just had a look at http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/ . It was surprisingly interesting, but not sure whether it has any bearing on Patnet. Most significantly, politifact has no comment section :).
1. post limits
New users: 1 post/day, 2 posts/week, Established users, 2 posts/day, 5 posts/week. Weeks could be rolling 7-day periods. The quality and usefulness of patnet is inversely proportional to the number of posts per day. New users are people who have been registered less than 1 year. People who change their usernames should be considered new users, but changing username really should be forbidden.
To counteract propaganda, you need a counterthread, side by side. I really have no way of knowing whether it would work, but I have never seen it, and it might be worth a try.
4. up-and-down voting:
... Up/Down scores also need to be separated so that people can see activity level not just the final score. Just seeing N-N=0 does not tell me anything about a post, nor can it be used to rank the post for activity.
5. Ignore function should exist, and each user should have ignored-by-N-people showing. The latter is very important, because new users need to see who is being either a troll or just wildly partisan.
Now there is a number and an ignore icon by each user's comment.
11. threads should have yyyy/mm/dd in their URL, so that one can more easily search by date.
14. comment layout: please insert a space between the comment header and the first line/paragraph of comment. If there is only one paragraph, comment is too easy to overlook.
justme saysI just had a look at http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/ . It was surprisingly interesting, but not sure whether it has any bearing on Patnet. Most significantly, politifact has no comment section :).
Yes, this makes me assume it's just one more highly partisan site pretending not to be. Like the NY Times.
This line is too tight up against the comment header. A space in between would help. @Patrick.
his line is too tight up against the comment header. A space in between would help. @Patrick.
Patrick saysjustme saysI just had a look at http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/ . It was surprisingly interesting, but not sure whether it has any bearing on Patnet. Most significantly, politifact has no comment section :).
Yes, this makes me assume it's just one more highly partisan site pretending not to be. Like the NY Times.
Politifact is owned by the radical, lefty, liberal Tampa Bay Times. They won't allow and alternate narratives to derail their partisan bullshit.
So where do you go for Real News, free of partisan bullshit?
Same goes for the original post or thread at the beginning. It would be nice to have the text start under the down vote arrow. Can't find an example quickly, but I've even seen it get bumped up to the right of a users avatar making it even closer to the header content. When it does that and the first part of the post is a link, I sometime miss the link completely.
errc saysSo where do you go for Real News, free of partisan bullshit?
This is indeed a problem.
I read a lot of foreign news to see their take on US politics. Chinese, Indian, Russian.
Hey Partick was scrolling through and saw the new comment notification. Clicked in and it was my last post from a couple of days ago. Screen shot below from just now w/ the notification thingy. There a reason I'd see the notification on the home page with no new comment? Deleted anon post or that Oil user that I'm pretty sure is the Hong Kong bot?
"Sniper" is the most recent one.
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