Trump media three times more negative than for Obama, just 5 percent positive
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MrMagic
2017 Dec 29, 3:30pm
MrMagic
2017 Dec 29, 3:30pm
TwoScoopsPlissken says
marcus says
When will it start?
Everything on Clinton, Podesta, Wasserman-Schultz, McCabe, Stronzky (sp?) etc. has actual factual meat to it.
marcus says
No, it starts when an investigation into extreme corruption
When will it start?
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 29, 3:31pm
The media was absolutely tougher on Clinton than it was on Trump. Studies have shown this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/09/20/is-the-media-biased-toward-clinton-or-trump-heres-some-actual-hard-data/?utm_term=.de314eb4866f
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/09/20/is-the-media-biased-toward-clinton-or-trump-heres-some-actual-hard-data/?utm_term=.de314eb4866f
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MisdemeanorRebel
2017 Dec 29, 3:33pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2017 Dec 29, 3:33pm
Sniper says
Even with the leaked emails, showing journalists invited to special parties, individual MSM "journos" fed tasty tidbits by the campaign, the non-stop Trump Bashing, and the now statistically proven negativity from one of the few genuinely unbiased think tanks, Pew, we still hear the "MSM too nice to Trump" nonsense.
Oh, and don't forget the "He's toast, mathematically impossible!" 24-7 assault of pundits in all MSM, print, cable, network, that lasted for weeks right up until the evening of the election.
And pimping the faked Trump dossier... which turned out to be funded by the Democratic Candidate and then knowingly used by the Democratic President to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Opposition Candidate after their first attempt at a FISA wiretap was rejected... man every few seconds I think of another.
Months of wiretaps and surveillance on Trump and Mueller has yet to indict anybody? He ain't got nuthin' on Trump.
Really?? "overly kind"?????
Even with the leaked emails, showing journalists invited to special parties, individual MSM "journos" fed tasty tidbits by the campaign, the non-stop Trump Bashing, and the now statistically proven negativity from one of the few genuinely unbiased think tanks, Pew, we still hear the "MSM too nice to Trump" nonsense.
Oh, and don't forget the "He's toast, mathematically impossible!" 24-7 assault of pundits in all MSM, print, cable, network, that lasted for weeks right up until the evening of the election.
And pimping the faked Trump dossier... which turned out to be funded by the Democratic Candidate and then knowingly used by the Democratic President to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Opposition Candidate after their first attempt at a FISA wiretap was rejected... man every few seconds I think of another.
Months of wiretaps and surveillance on Trump and Mueller has yet to indict anybody? He ain't got nuthin' on Trump.
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MrMagic
2017 Dec 29, 3:34pm
MrMagic
2017 Dec 29, 3:34pm
HappyGilmore says
WaPo
Ha Ha Ha ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha
The media was absolutely tougher on Clinton than it was on Trump. Studies have shown this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/09/20/is-the-media-biased-toward-clinton-or-trump-heres-some-actual-hard-data/?utm_term=.de314eb4866f
WaPo
Ha Ha Ha ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 29, 6:34pm
Is it that hard to pick 3 things? My Lord.
Nobody can step up and name 3 specific topics where the press was unfair?
Nobody can step up and name 3 specific topics where the press was unfair?
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Shaman
2017 Dec 29, 7:05pm
Shaman
2017 Dec 29, 7:05pm
From what history and true facts have played out, usually weeks or months afterward, Trump is proven right about 95% of the time. When he first tweets or makes a public statement there’s inevitably gasps and protests, talk of his senility, derangement, and impending impeachment due to the 26th Ammendment. Then time passes and he’s proven 100% correct on the subject.
Rinse.
Repeat.
Rinse.
Repeat.
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 30, 6:16am
Sniper says
Are you kidding me? This should be the simplest question ever asked on pat.net. For the last 18 months, all I've heard is how mistreated Trump is by the lying, liberal, biased, media. All I'm asking is 3 examples.
What's the problem?
What's YOUR definition of "unfair", let's start there?
Are you kidding me? This should be the simplest question ever asked on pat.net. For the last 18 months, all I've heard is how mistreated Trump is by the lying, liberal, biased, media. All I'm asking is 3 examples.
What's the problem?
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 30, 6:16am
Quigley says
example? I don't recall that every happening.
From what history and true facts have played out, usually weeks or months afterward, Trump is proven right about 95% of the time. When he first tweets or makes a public statement there’s inevitably gasps and protests, talk of his senility, derangement, and impending impeachment due to the 26th Ammendment. Then time passes and he’s proven 100% correct on the subject.
example? I don't recall that every happening.
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Y
2017 Dec 30, 7:04am
Y
2017 Dec 30, 7:04am
Nope.
At the rate the libbies redefine the english language, clarity is needed here.
Why can't you define your version of "unfair" so your question can be answered?
HappyGilmore says
At the rate the libbies redefine the english language, clarity is needed here.
Why can't you define your version of "unfair" so your question can be answered?
HappyGilmore says
Sniper says
What's YOUR definition of "unfair", let's start there?
Are you kidding me? This should be the simplest question ever asked on pat.net.
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MrMagic
2017 Dec 30, 7:55am
MrMagic
2017 Dec 30, 7:55am
HappyGilmore says
I gave a whole list, please pick the ones yo-u like best out of the list below. This really can't be that difficult.
Sniper says
All I'm asking is 3 examples.
I gave a whole list, please pick the ones yo-u like best out of the list below. This really can't be that difficult.
Sniper says
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 30, 8:10am
Quigley says
Yep--my google says it never happened. That's why I asked to see if you have a different google.
It's hilarious that all the Trumpcucks make these statements as if they are well known truths but when questioned can't provide one fucking example of any of it.
You got the google, even if your memory is shit you should be able to find out for yourself.
Yep--my google says it never happened. That's why I asked to see if you have a different google.
It's hilarious that all the Trumpcucks make these statements as if they are well known truths but when questioned can't provide one fucking example of any of it.
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 30, 8:12am
Sniper says
Great--so pick 3 that I can review then.
Seriously--how hard is this? wtf is wrong with you people? Define unfair? Really?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unfair
I gave a whole list, please pick the ones yo-u like best out of the list below. This really can't be that difficult.
Great--so pick 3 that I can review then.
Seriously--how hard is this? wtf is wrong with you people? Define unfair? Really?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unfair
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CBOEtrader
2017 Dec 30, 9:50am
CBOEtrader
2017 Dec 30, 9:50am
HappyGilmore says
During the 2016 election cycle, the MSM gave white supremacists, specifically the KKK, more press coverage per member than the dallas cowboys as a strategy to smear Trump. 100% proof of MSM propaganda.
Build a racist boogey-man, blame it on the blond haired R candidate who refuses to be politically correct. Rinse. Repeat.
Is it that hard to pick 3 things? My Lord.
Nobody can step up and name 3 specific topics where the press was unfair?
During the 2016 election cycle, the MSM gave white supremacists, specifically the KKK, more press coverage per member than the dallas cowboys as a strategy to smear Trump. 100% proof of MSM propaganda.
Build a racist boogey-man, blame it on the blond haired R candidate who refuses to be politically correct. Rinse. Repeat.
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anonymous
2017 Dec 30, 10:08am
Sniper says
Wait, didn't he get Doug Jones right?
HappyGilmore saysIt's not the same.
True, Nate has been 100% WRONG the complete last year. I'd suggest a better source for info.
Wait, didn't he get Doug Jones right?
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anonymous
2017 Dec 30, 10:14am
anon_c1a2c says
So you got nothing? Still not one example. That's what I thought.
Sniper says
Only three out of that YYUUGGEE list spewed by the Liberal media on a regular basis???
Hmmm, the choices...
So you got nothing? Not even 1?
So you got nothing? Still not one example. That's what I thought.
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CBOEtrader
2017 Dec 30, 10:18am
CBOEtrader
2017 Dec 30, 10:18am
I just gave you a bullet proof 100% data supported example. Ignore facts though?! Yeah. That's what I thought.
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 30, 10:32am
CBOEtrader says
this?
CBOEtrader says
I think you need a primer as to what constitutes proof.
I just gave you a bullet proof 100% data supported example. Ignore facts though?! Yeah. That's what I thought.
this?
CBOEtrader says
During the 2016 election cycle, the MSM gave white supremacists, specifically the KKK, more press coverage per member than the dallas cowboys as a strategy to smear Trump. 100% proof of MSM propaganda.
I think you need a primer as to what constitutes proof.
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Shaman
2017 Dec 30, 6:32pm
Shaman
2017 Dec 30, 6:32pm
And he proved my point! Even when a poster gives in to his “tasking” and provides the requested “proof,” this troll discounts the evidence! HappyGilmore is apparently the sort of troll who is best dealt with via the “ignore” function.
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Shaman
2017 Dec 30, 8:45pm
Shaman
2017 Dec 30, 8:45pm
I think we broke HGs trolling script. He’s just putting “best fit” scenarios into play now! And being contrarian for its own sake. If he was truly sentient, and not a trollish AI, he’d have something more original to say.
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 31, 8:51am
If anyone can point me to the data that cboe claims he posted, please do so.
After all this back and forth, nobody can provide 3 instances of Trump being treated unfairly?? I would have thought it to be an extremely simple exercise.
After all this back and forth, nobody can provide 3 instances of Trump being treated unfairly?? I would have thought it to be an extremely simple exercise.
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Shaman
2017 Dec 31, 9:17am
Shaman
2017 Dec 31, 9:17am
HappyGilmore says
If you know it’s such a simple exercise, then you already know that we are right, and Trump has been mistreated by the media a hugely disproportionate amount! I’ll give you a new example from the National Review, a very conservative magazine.
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/12/30/rick-manning-national-review-crowd-cant-admit-they-were-dead-wrong-about-donald-trump/
? I would have thought it to be an extremely simple exercise
If you know it’s such a simple exercise, then you already know that we are right, and Trump has been mistreated by the media a hugely disproportionate amount! I’ll give you a new example from the National Review, a very conservative magazine.
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/12/30/rick-manning-national-review-crowd-cant-admit-they-were-dead-wrong-about-donald-trump/
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 31, 9:53am
Quigley says
Nice article but doesn't really address my question. I'm asking for a specific example of an issue or incident where Trump was mistreated by the media.
If you know it’s such a simple exercise, then you already know that we are right, and Trump has been mistreated by the media a hugely disproportionate amount! I’ll give you a new example from the National Review, a very conservative magazine.
Nice article but doesn't really address my question. I'm asking for a specific example of an issue or incident where Trump was mistreated by the media.
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MrMagic
2017 Dec 31, 10:19am
MrMagic
2017 Dec 31, 10:19am
HappyGilmore says
OK, for the WIN!!
Here's FOUR.
News Media Gone Wild: These 4 Examples Show Trump-Trashing Is Their Favorite Hobby
Four topics took up more than half the time spent on the ABC, CBS and NBC evening news coverage of the president.
* The Russian "collusion" allegations, got some 415 minutes of coverage, 94 percent of it negative.
* The battle over Obamacare repeal took up 176 minutes and was 97 percent negative.
* The feud with North Korea landed 136 minutes of coverage with 86 percent of it negative.
* President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia. It received 97 minutes of coverage, 97 percent of it negative.
Noyes stated, "Analyzing the networks' spin makes it clear that the goal of all this heavy coverage is not to promote the president, but to punish him."
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2017/september/news-media-gone-wild-these-4-examples-show-trump-trashing-is-their-favorite-hobby
CHECKMATE!!
After all this back and forth, nobody can provide 3 instances of Trump being treated unfairly??
OK, for the WIN!!
Here's FOUR.
News Media Gone Wild: These 4 Examples Show Trump-Trashing Is Their Favorite Hobby
Four topics took up more than half the time spent on the ABC, CBS and NBC evening news coverage of the president.
* The Russian "collusion" allegations, got some 415 minutes of coverage, 94 percent of it negative.
* The battle over Obamacare repeal took up 176 minutes and was 97 percent negative.
* The feud with North Korea landed 136 minutes of coverage with 86 percent of it negative.
* President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia. It received 97 minutes of coverage, 97 percent of it negative.
Noyes stated, "Analyzing the networks' spin makes it clear that the goal of all this heavy coverage is not to promote the president, but to punish him."
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2017/september/news-media-gone-wild-these-4-examples-show-trump-trashing-is-their-favorite-hobby
CHECKMATE!!
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 31, 10:45am
Hey--someone at least stepped up and provided some real examples. Kudos.
Now-I do have a bit of a question with the source as it's mission is "exposing and combating liberal media bias" There may be a bit of a bias there. They list their methodology but don't have the raw data/soundbites anywhere to dig in (or course) so it's impossible to really judge their findings.
But hey--at least you stepped up to the plate.
Now-I do have a bit of a question with the source as it's mission is "exposing and combating liberal media bias" There may be a bit of a bias there. They list their methodology but don't have the raw data/soundbites anywhere to dig in (or course) so it's impossible to really judge their findings.
But hey--at least you stepped up to the plate.
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anonymous
2017 Dec 31, 10:49am
CBOEtrader says
Trump made this happen all by himself. "Who is David Duke ?" I don't think I know who that is ?" You want me to denounce white supremacy ? I would have to know what it means and who these people are before I can denounce them."
I imagine Trumpcucks giggling like little girls when they hear his incessant pathological lying.
During the 2016 election cycle, the MSM gave white supremacists, specifically the KKK, more press coverage per member than the dallas cowboys as a strategy to smear Trump. 100% proof of MSM propaganda.
Trump made this happen all by himself. "Who is David Duke ?" I don't think I know who that is ?" You want me to denounce white supremacy ? I would have to know what it means and who these people are before I can denounce them."
I imagine Trumpcucks giggling like little girls when they hear his incessant pathological lying.
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HappyGilmore
2017 Dec 31, 4:29pm
Sniper says
Actually I went to their site.
And it would be so difficult to find them on Google or Youtube, right? That is, if yo-u wanted to.
Actually I went to their site.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jan 1, 8:11am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jan 1, 8:11am
HappyGilmore says
So you can't, in any way, suggest I'm wrong.
The MSM and left are the ones who suggested Trump and a wave of white nationalism were somehow linked. Do you disagree w this sentiment?
Look in the Wikileaks wherein DNC and HRC put out these exact white national talking points to their media shills. Then go cross reference to Google trends data showing more articles per KKK member than the Dallas cowboys. These are facts you can not deny.
I think you need a primer as to what constitutes proof.
So you can't, in any way, suggest I'm wrong.
The MSM and left are the ones who suggested Trump and a wave of white nationalism were somehow linked. Do you disagree w this sentiment?
Look in the Wikileaks wherein DNC and HRC put out these exact white national talking points to their media shills. Then go cross reference to Google trends data showing more articles per KKK member than the Dallas cowboys. These are facts you can not deny.
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HappyGilmore
2018 Jan 1, 9:27am
CBOEtrader says
Of course you're wrong. I thought it went without saying that you were wrong.
There are way more articles on the Dallas Cowboys. I figured you were being sarcastic.
(fyi--there at least 100X more KKK members than members of the Dallas Cowboys so you'd have to show 100X more articles on the KKK)
So you can't, in any way, suggest I'm wrong.
Of course you're wrong. I thought it went without saying that you were wrong.
There are way more articles on the Dallas Cowboys. I figured you were being sarcastic.
(fyi--there at least 100X more KKK members than members of the Dallas Cowboys so you'd have to show 100X more articles on the KKK)
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jan 1, 11:14am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jan 1, 11:14am
According to Wikipedia, there are about 5000 employees of the Dallas Cowboys compared to KKK's 3000 - 8000 members. The ratio is close to 1:1. Obviously the Dallas Cowboys are a FAR more highly capitalized organization, with professional marketers, etc... So even a 1:1 ratio is quite misleading. The KKK is quantifiably irrelevant. (For example some estimates suggest the irrelevant Church of Satan has more members.) There should NEVER be a period of time where there are more KKK articles than Dallas Cowboys articles, unless ofc you are the MSM trying to propagandize the soft minded masses.
Around the 2016 POTUS election, from Nov 7th to Nov 9th Google NEWS (articles from actual publications) hits for "KKK" is 11,100 as compared to "Dallas Cowboys" 8,940.
HappyGilmore says
I accept your apology for being wrong.
Around the 2016 POTUS election, from Nov 7th to Nov 9th Google NEWS (articles from actual publications) hits for "KKK" is 11,100 as compared to "Dallas Cowboys" 8,940.
HappyGilmore says
Of course you're wrong
I accept your apology for being wrong.
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HappyGilmore
2018 Jan 1, 12:25pm
CBOEtrader says
The 2016 election cycle is 3 days?
round the 2016 POTUS election, from Nov 7th to Nov 9th Google NEWS (articles from actual publications) hits for "KKK" is 11,100 as compared to "Dallas Cowboys" 8,940.
The 2016 election cycle is 3 days?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jan 2, 5:15am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jan 2, 5:15am
You guys are all wrong.
I can't think of a reason why the Media, owned as it is by individuals who own big stakes in multinational corporations, would possibly be so vicious towards a nationalist populist.
And smear the President as a KKK member. Funny all this wasn't known when he had a successful TV show making millions for the Media.
He just genuinely must be a bad guy that the very smart and serious people are legitimately warning against.
I can't think of a reason why the Media, owned as it is by individuals who own big stakes in multinational corporations, would possibly be so vicious towards a nationalist populist.
And smear the President as a KKK member. Funny all this wasn't known when he had a successful TV show making millions for the Media.
He just genuinely must be a bad guy that the very smart and serious people are legitimately warning against.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 2, 7:42am
Nobody smeared trump as a kkk member. They said that papa trump ran with a kkk goon squad and got busted when he was little. They also correctly pointed out that trump played dumb about David Duke when he knows dam well who he is. It was all very odd behavior, and trump got a predictable response.
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HappyGilmore
2018 Jan 2, 8:12am
anon_61c8a says
Yep--it's hard to call that media treatment unfair when it's exactly what he wanted.
Nobody smeared trump as a kkk member. They said that papa trump ran with a kkk goon squad and got busted when he was little. They also correctly pointed out that trump played dumb about David Duke when he knows dam well who he is. It was all very odd behavior, and trump got a predictable response.
Yep--it's hard to call that media treatment unfair when it's exactly what he wanted.
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MrMagic
2018 Jan 2, 8:16am
MrMagic
2018 Jan 2, 8:16am
HappyGilmore says
That's what he wanted? Really?
Is there a link to that proof?
anon_61c8a saysNobody smeared trump as a kkk member. They said that papa trump ran with a kkk goon squad and got busted when he was little. They also correctly pointed out that trump played dumb about David Duke when he knows dam well who he is. It was all very odd behavior, and trump got a predictable response.
Yep--it's hard to call that media treatment unfair when it's exactly what he wanted.
That's what he wanted? Really?
Is there a link to that proof?
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HappyGilmore
2018 Jan 2, 8:19am
Sniper says
How exactly do you suggest I prove what Trump wanted?
I can show you the final election results and the exit polling of late deciders that shows Trump winning big. Blowing the dog whistle definitely had the desired effect.
Is there a link to that proof?
How exactly do you suggest I prove what Trump wanted?
I can show you the final election results and the exit polling of late deciders that shows Trump winning big. Blowing the dog whistle definitely had the desired effect.
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HappyGilmore
2018 Jan 2, 8:26am
Sniper says
In this case, it was obviously my opinion as are most of the posts on here from everyone.
Exactly, you're ALL hyperbole with ZERO facts.
In this case, it was obviously my opinion as are most of the posts on here from everyone.
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marcus
2018 Jan 2, 9:59am
marcus
2018 Jan 2, 9:59am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Many people were sufficiently turned off by the fact that Trump would lower himself to going for the racist and white supremacist vote so openly (had only been done with dog whistles in the past). It wasn't even necessarily that he was himself a racist or white supremacist (although he may be sympathetic).
As a right winger Trump was going to get the racist vote anyway, but being so open about it brought the vote out among these groups in higher numbers. Or perhaps Trump was so savvy as to understand that by playing this act of appealing to racists, he could get a reaction from the left, playing into the whole narrative about fighting the evil political correctness thought police on the left (which sometimes is just a more subtle form of racism - although I agree about the PC problem on college campuses).
And smear the President as a KKK member. Funny all this wasn't known when he had a successful TV show making millions for the Media.
Many people were sufficiently turned off by the fact that Trump would lower himself to going for the racist and white supremacist vote so openly (had only been done with dog whistles in the past). It wasn't even necessarily that he was himself a racist or white supremacist (although he may be sympathetic).
As a right winger Trump was going to get the racist vote anyway, but being so open about it brought the vote out among these groups in higher numbers. Or perhaps Trump was so savvy as to understand that by playing this act of appealing to racists, he could get a reaction from the left, playing into the whole narrative about fighting the evil political correctness thought police on the left (which sometimes is just a more subtle form of racism - although I agree about the PC problem on college campuses).
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mell
2018 Jan 2, 10:41am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Exactly. He was Americas darling poster-boy for success until he took on the spineless lying career-politicians. MAGA!
And smear the President as a KKK member. Funny all this wasn't known when he had a successful TV show making millions for the Media.
Exactly. He was Americas darling poster-boy for success until he took on the spineless lying career-politicians. MAGA!
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The media’s coverage of President Trump has been overwhelmingly negative, more than three times more critical than the initial coverage of former President Barack Obama and twice that of former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.
The Pew Research Center said that the early coverage of Trump was 62 percent negative. By comparison, Obama’s coverage was just 20 percent negative.
“About six-in-ten stories on Trump’s early days in office had a negative assessment, about three times more than in early coverage for Obama and roughly twice that of Bush and Clinton. Coverage of Trump’s early time in office moved further away from a focus on the policy agenda and more toward character and leadership,” said Pew.
The media story reviewed the tone of coverage of Trump’s first 60 days in office and found that just 5 percent was “positive.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pew-trump-media-three-times-more-negative-than-for-obama-just-5-percent-positive/article/2644448
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