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Potus legitimized Kim on the world stage, something that will have far reaching and unintended consequences. Far from being marginalized Putin and Xi have also been raised by riding on the coat tails of this.
This is truly an epic win for The Donald, and it very difficult to spin it otherwise.
Patrick saysThis is truly an epic win for The Donald, and it very difficult to spin it otherwise.
An epic win is NK with no nukes So far the only thing that has happened is an agreement to talk. We've talked for 30 years including 2 treaties. If just agreeing to talk is an epic win what was signing a treaty then? Exponential epic win?
bob2356 saysWhere is the winning? There were 2 actual real signed nuclear deals already and nothing happened. All that has happened so far is trump and K saying let's do lunch some time. I'll applaud after there are results not self promoting.
Where is the negative in pointing out the realities of the situation anyway? It's called analysis which is neither positive or negative.
For starters, I'd say two countries having an open dialogue is a great start. That's more than previous Presidents.
If the end goal is de-nuclearization, why all the media hate? If Obama had done this, he would have been given a gold star and a key to the city.
Better than threats, tweets, lines in the sand etc..
This is truly an epic win for The Donald, and it very difficult to spin it otherwise.
Kim has not gotten this kind of legitimacy as a major player before. He has been on the outside looking in however that is now in the past.
Like it or not being asked to take part in the summit by a sitting U.S. President elevates him to an entirely new level and for better or worse the leader of a nuclear armed nation that is powerful enough now to warrant this kind of attention.
Can't stay away from Obama now can we ? Let's keep this laser focused on Trump
All the liberals/SJW's are melting down about how Trump gave everything to China/Russia. Am I missing something here?
From my understanding, the only thing Trump agreed to was stopping the twice a year joint exercises that can be restarted at a moments notice.
This is truly an epic win for The Donald, and it very difficult to spin it otherwise.
I don’t recall all the “experts” criticizing Obama when he met with a brutal dictator in Cuba who also oversaw a police state & also killed & jailed his opponents.
He also said he would pull our 28K military personal out of SK.
marcus saysHe also said he would pull our 28K military personal out of SK.
Woah, that's excellent if true. At least a billion dollars in savings.
Nobody but Libtards want that.
Giving an opponent a measure of legitimacy is the ONLY way to resolve a conflict without a fight.
What am I missing? N.Korea etc...
The statement, which American officials negotiated intensely with the North Koreans and had hoped would be a road map to a nuclear deal, was a page and a half of diplomatic language recycled from statements negotiated by the North over the last two decades.
It made no mention of Mr. Trump’s longstanding — supposedly nonnegotiable — demand that North Korea submit to complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization. It made no mention of North Korea’s missiles. It did not even set a firm date for a follow-up meeting, though the president said he would invite Mr. Kim to the White House when the time was right.
“This is what North Korea has wanted from the beginning, and I cannot believe that our side allowed it,” said Joseph Y. Yun, a former State Department official who has negotiated with the North. “I am quite simply surprised that months of negotiations produced so little.”
Woah, that's excellent if true. At least a billion dollars in savings.
Another win.
GW Bush was both an asshole and a moron and completely destroyed the Iraqi power structure and murdered Saddam, who had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. We are still suffering the consequences. Bush should be in jail.
What am I missing? N.Korea etc...
Potus legitimized Kim on the world stage, something that will have far reaching and unintended consequences.
This is what relatively neutral people are saying.
Tt months of negotiations produced so little.”
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The fact that these meeting even happened is a slap in the face to China. They were counting on using the North Korean issue as leverage in keeping their unfair trade practices.
If so, yet another level of winning. Let's count the wins:
1. North Korea agrees to de-nuclearize
2. We pull out 28,000 troops from Korea, saving at least $1B/year and doing the right thing.
3. China has less to power to keep us buying 5x more from them than they do from us.
America did not totally squash Germany after WWII, and also left the emperor in nominal charge of Japan, and those worked out well.
GW Bush was both an asshole and a moron and completely destroyed the Iraqi power structure and murdered Saddam, who had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. We are still suffering the consequences. Bush should be in jail.
I just don't trust the fucking commie fucks. Unless these regimes are completely dismantled they will continue playing fucking games. One look at the Russian fucks is all proof you'll ever need.
He also said he would pull our 28K military personal out of SK.
I'm not judging it bad, but to deny it's a big concession ?
marcus saysHe also said he would pull our 28K military personal out of SK.
Woah, that's excellent if true. At least a billion dollars in savings.
Another win.
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All the liberals/SJW's are melting down about how Trump gave everything to China/Russia. Am I missing something here?
From my understanding, the only thing Trump agreed to was stopping the twice a year joint exercises that can be restarted at a moments notice. Doesn't seem like much of a concession, AND North Korea halted nuclear and missile testing, gave us our hostages, and verbally agreed to denuclearize. While there is a massive way to go still and an official treaty still needs to be done with verifiable checks - how is this a loss? Why are all the libbies claiming Trump gave it all to China/Russia and all this other conspiracy theory bullshit?
In my opinion, this is a great step towards peace, and aversion to nuclear war.
WTF???