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Patrick says

Democrats have been so forgiving of illegal immigration that they give the deep impression that they seek to dissolve the border entirely.

This is the new progressives though as opposed to the blue dog dems for example. Trump is basically a blue dog dem. He would have been a D Potus in 1988 for sure

CBOEtrader says

This is the new progressives though as opposed to the blue dog dems for example. Trump is basically a blue dog dem. He would have been a D Potus in 1988 for sure

I don't know what you're talking about.

Ronald Reagan did a massive amnesty for all the illegals in the 80s. GWB was WAYYYY easier on border security and illegal aliens than Obama was.

Do you guys ever take reality in to consideration ?

marcus says

Ronald Reagan did a massive amnesty for all the illegals in the 80s. GWB was WAYYYY easier on border security and illegal aliens than Obama was.

This is contradictory how? This sounds like proof that trump is right and the dems are just brainwashed.

We are literally agreeing on something and somehow you think we are at odds here.

In a closed door meeting, Nancy disrobes in front of Trump, turning him to stone.

willywonka says

In a closed door meeting, Nancy disrobes in front of Trump, turning him to stone.

So now Nancy can say, I can easily get Trump "hard."

marcus says

Rocketmanjoe says

CBOEtrader says

We are literally agreeing on something and somehow you think we are at odds here.

Ahhh so you agree that Democrats are for border security.

The wall has traditionally been a Democrat cause yes. Progressives are a different beast and unfortunately get the press attention. Progressives do SEEM to be the majority of dems these days. Show me stats if I'm wrong

So nobody has noticed the Leaks have all stopped?

This shut down will go on until Indictments are handed down and Mueller slinks back into the Liberal Cesspool he crawled out of.

The border wall has nothing to do with it. Trump could have EO'd the Wall.
Once he cleans house, he will be able to pass anything he hints should be done. Because the remaining swamp rats that don't get ensnared in the house cleaning.
Wont dare to hold the Globalist Establishment resist all sensible legislation at all cost. Of course Soros will be pale and blue by then.

Rocketmanjoe says

Muslims use the northern border, much easier to sneak in .

Why do I even bother with these sock puppets?

Border rancher: 'We’ve found prayer rugs out here. It’s unreal'

LORDSBURG, N.M. — Ranchers and farmers near the U.S.-Mexico border have been finding prayer rugs on their properties in recent months, according to one rancher who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation by cartels who move the individuals.

The mats are pieces of carpet that those of the Muslim faith kneel on as they worship.

"There’s a lot of people coming in not just from Mexico," the rancher said. "People, the general public, just don’t get the terrorist threats of that. That’s what’s really scary. You don’t know what’s coming across. We’ve found prayer rugs out here. It’s unreal. It’s not just Mexican nationals that are coming across."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/border-rancher-weve-found-prayer-rugs-out-here-its-unreal

Tenpoundbass says

So nobody has noticed the Leaks have all stopped?

Why is this relevant? Explain please

CBOEtrader says

Why is this relevant? Explain please

Gov't shutdown?

About killer lettuce meme above, see this: https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/jan/15/viral-image/did-lettuce-kill-more-americans-undocumented-immig/

How many people died of foodborne illnesses from lettuce in 2018?

The number appears to be at least five.

If you prorate Texas’s 39 [illegal] homicide convictions to the country as a whole — simply using population — it works out to 445 nationally.

As we’ve emphasized, these are back-of-the-envelope calculations. But even if these estimates — a couple hundred homicides by undocumented immigrants — are high by a factor of 10, they almost certainly outpaced the five lettuce deaths in 2018.

Rocketmanjoe says

That's not a prayer rug I can tell you that much for sure.

I'm sure they're wrong here too.

...."On a visit to the Arizona border, Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo got a firsthand look at smuggling routes.

"We've found copies of the Koran, we have found prayer rugs, we have found a lot of stuff written in Arabic, so it's not just people from Mexico coming across that border," Tancredo, a Republican, explains."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stopping-terror-at-the-border/

Probably not the Koran either, right.... Maybe mistaken for the Yellow Pages?

Who gives a fuck: prayer rugs or no prayer rugs, mislims or no muslims... Even if the border was stormed by blonde blue-eyed Swedes I would say BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.
Obey our fucking laws or GTFO.

marcus says

Who's third world diseased hands picked that lettuce.

RC2006 says

Who's third world diseased hands picked that lettuce.

A god damned dodooo hand butt wiper that's who!

Rocketmanjoe says

Nice an article from 2005

Caught ya! I was hoping you'd notice that. Tough to blame it on Trump, isn't it?

Rocketmanjoe says

Next will you show me this one from Breitbart?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2014/07/09/muslim-prayer-rug-found-on-arizona-border-by-independendent-american-security-contractors/

Who was President in 2014? Remind me.

Rocketmanjoe says

Aren't you always telling us how we shouldn't believe something from an anonymous source? Fake news?

Good boy, now you see how CBS News is also FAKE. You're learning!

Rocketmanjoe says

Actually, I think I'll go with the guy from Yale to know what a prayer rug looks like.

What about that Koran that was found. Was that just a issue of Readers Digest?

marcus says

Isn't contaminated greens caused (note spelling, just because ) by the illegal immigrant farm workers who are defecating in the lettuce fields?

As Reagan said it best, if government were to sneak away for a while, we wouldn't miss them. He was right.

Yes, @onvacation - a big outbreak of E. Coli was linked to a California Plant where they make pre-packaged salads. Let's just say they don't voluntarily use e-verify.

The pessimistic view is that Trump will eventually have to give in as the anger of furloughed workers grow, despite the shutdown being the leftoids fault. The optimistic view is that Trump strikes a deal that involved higher taxes on the (mostly leftoid globalist) uber-wealthy maybe coupled with a small inconsequential amnesty - perhaps DACA light - and also maybe basic (minimal/catastrophical only) universal healthcare for everybody and outflank and outplay the reigning Dems, getting his border security.

Wait a while longer until the back pay the workers equals the proposed budget for the wall. Then fire the workers and use that money for the wall instead.

Let's say we fire half of the 800k workers and that those workers average $70k/year each (including benefits). Hmmm.... $5.7 Billion / (800k / 2) / $70k * 365 days/year = 74 days of shutdown needed!

SunnyvaleCA says

Wait a while longer until the back pay the workers equals the proposed budget for the wall. Then fire the workers and use that money for the wall instead.

Let's say we fire half of the 800k workers and that those workers average $70k/year each (including benefits). Hmmm.... $5.7 Billion / (800k / 2) / $70k * 365 days/year = 74 days of shutdown needed!

Exxxcellllent!! (Grinning while touching ends of fingers together)

Then hire back those workers at half pay to then build the wall!!!!

Super Fantasy: The Shutdown breaks AFSCME or whatever the hell they are. Trump de-unionizes many Federal Agencies.

FAP FAP FAP FAP

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Super Fantasy: The Shutdown breaks AFSCME or whatever the hell they are. Trump de-unionizes many Federal Agencies.

Shades of PATCO and Reagan.

I would bet on some kind of a deal that allows both sides to save face at least somewhat. Or possibly Trump isn't smart enough to pull that off.

Maybe the total amount spent will be relatively huge, but it won't be centered an Trumps wall, but perhaps it has to include some new and different walls than simply the maintenance and extension of walls that already exist.

You know, to satisfy Ann Coulter (apparently Trumps current leading political and policy adviser - not including Sean Hannity ).

marcus says

Or possibly Trump isn't smart enough to pull that off.

Yeah, his administration has been endless defeat and nothing getting done so far.

Getting stuff done is not the same as success.

Trumps multiple bankruptcies are things that he got done too.

marcus says

Getting stuff done is not the same as success.

Or possibly Trump isn't smart enough to pull that off.

This has go to be an attempt at humor. Trump decides to run for political office, and it is the top job and he wins on the first try. Trump defeats the entrenched Bush and Clinton machines, all while having the news media and old guard politicians of both parties gunning for him. He outwitted some rather smart folks.

HeadSet says

Or possibly Trump isn't smart enough to pull that off.

This has go to be an attempt at humor. Trump decides to run for political office, and it is the top job and he wins on the first try. Trump defeats the entrenched Bush and Clinton machines, all while having the news media and old guard politicians of both parties gunning for him. He outwitted some rather smart folks.

Yep, that comment just shows how desperate the ones suffering from MAJOR TDS try and justify their illness.

marcus says

Trumps multiple bankruptcies are things that he got done too.

And there's another one..

Trump didn't game the corrupt old system, he broke the fucker.

I'm also impressed at how Trump came in and won on his first try.

He's got to be pretty damn smart.

Patrick says

He's got to be pretty damn smart.

Yes, he knows how to identify and exploit the dark side of the frustrated masses.

And he got support from the Russians. And conditions were ripe for him to step in. Sad really.

Booger says

marcus says

Getting stuff done is not the same as success.

I see you're incapable of learning, and or honesty for that matter (see other thread where I responded to this)


That's okay, it speaks to the lack of honest reasons you have for liking Trump.






Guess what ? If something implies something that isn't true, it's basically a lie.


Your behavior is deplorable. But that's the one constant with TrumpCucks, so don't worry about it.

Patrick says

Bets on how the government shutdown ends?

I guess today answers your question ?

At approx 3:30 Schumer says he hopes that the President learned his lesson.

www.youtube.com/embed/7B23DPdLclA


@Booger: Fact: the government is already working with over $1 billion that it can spend repairing reinforcing and extending the existing fences. Not to mention the massive increases in border patrols and border patrol assets that have occurred over the past 12 years or so.

Why don't any of the republitards on this forum complain about the lies and propaganda. I would be embarrassed by your propaganda if I were a republican

The Government shuts down in 3 weeks again. Nancy promised to negotiate. Will she keep her promise?

Remember, she nominated herself and had to beg for 32 more votes to be speaker. She didn't get it "In the Bag".

Nancy Pelosi has behaved so irrationally & has gone so far to the left that she has now officially become a Radical Democrat. She is so petrified of the “lefties” in her party that she has lost control...And by the way, clean up the streets in San Francisco, they are disgusting!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 20, 2019

The Campaign is ongoing, and he's still harping on the wall despite 2 years of opportunities to distance himself. That means he's committed.

Many people think the key is getting SJWs and Islamists to fight. That's not the dividing line, the Left-Islamist alliance is decades old already, and they are united in destroying Western Civilization in order to create the conditions necessary for their various Universal Utopian Idealism. They can put their cognitive dissonance away and rationalize the Alliance as something like the US+USSR vs. the Nazis. The handful of rabid Islamists in Congress and in the Democratic Party isn't enough of a lever, anyway.

The Fault line is Neoliberals and SJWs/Islamists.

On Open Borders, the Neoliberals and SJW/Islamists are committed allies with the same goal. Just like SJWs and Fiscal Conservatives were allies in doing away with involuntary mental health incarceration

On Debt Forgiveness and the Banking System, Neoliberals and SJW-Islamists are committed opponents with opposite goals . SJW/Islamists want it socialized and/or destroyed; but it's a cornerstone of the coming Global Corporate Order for Neoliberals. To SJWs, it's a shot in getting their $100k in student debt for a Gender Degree forgiven; and a mark of evil capitalism; for Islamists interest is antithetical to Islam.

The Battle hasn't changed. It's a battle of moderation & nationalism against Utopian Ideologies: Post Modern Oppression Theory that wants to replace Whites and Males and Meritocracy with a "Victims"-ocracy mentality, Islamism which per Islam needs to conquer the world to bring in the Golden Age/the Millenia, and Neoliberalism which thinks it's going to create the Star Trek Federation World Government guided by Technocrats and Corporatists in order to save the Earth, Achieve Fusion Power, the Singularity, and other Techno-Utopian rot.

Act II in three weeks I hear. Isn't Act II where the real action kicks off? God I hope so just one side fucking prevail already.