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38383   mell   2013 Oct 10, 1:19am  

tatupu70 says

Robert Sproul says

At least read the Wikipedia page on War on Drugs so that you quit embarrassing

yourself with your lack of understanding of the world you live in

What's embarrassing is your reading comprehension. SELLING drugs is very different than USING drugs. How many of those prisoners are in jail for using marijuana?? Find that answer, then get back to me about my lack of understanding. OK?

This is a decent article and it's quite a few arrests though the various statistics often don't split up sale vs possession but sale should be legal as well (it's not like the government is selling alcohol or cigarettes right now).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/one-marijuana-arrest-occu_n_2041236.html

"According to MARP, over the past 25 years more than 210,000 people have been arrested for marijuana possession in Colorado -- and of those arrests, communities of color have been disproportionately impacted."

So that's 210K for one state over 25 years for possession only.

38384   tatupu70   2013 Oct 10, 1:26am  

mell says

So that's 210K for one state over 25 years for possession only.

That sounds reasonable. And of that 210K, I bet almost none actually went to jail.

I'd even wager that the vast majority of those arrests were because the cops found marijuana while searching for evidence of other crimes.

38385   tatupu70   2013 Oct 10, 1:28am  

Robert Sproul says

You need to get busy reading your assignments, you are pants-on-head retarded
and should not waste anybody's time until you catch up a little.

lol--OK. I'll get busy educating you about the number of people actually in jail for smoking pot. My guess is the number is basically zero.

38386   Honest Abe   2013 Oct 10, 2:57am  

You missed the point, where is the outrage? Murder is a pretty heinous crime, wouldn't you agree?

Is the outrage to occur only when it is a white Hispanic on black crime, but NOT when its a black on white crime?

38387   freak80   2013 Oct 10, 3:00am  

See kids...drugs are bad. Mmmmkay?

Except for SSRIs. SSRIs are good. Mmmmkay?

38388   Robert Sproul   2013 Oct 10, 3:07am  

Here are a few Fed cases under Obama:
http://www.canorml.org/costs/federal_medical_marijuana_cases_prior_to_2011#prison
One of my favorites:
May 28, 2013 - 53-year-old Michigan medical marijuana patient Jerry Duval, a kidney-pancreas transplant patient with coronary artery disease and a strict medication regimen, was sentenced earlier this year to 10 years in prison and will be surrendering to FMC Devens in Ayer, Massachusetts on June 11th. Duval was convicted at trial in April 2012 of manufacturing with intent to distribute marijuana, conspiracy to manufacture marijuana, and maintaining a drug premises. The Obama Justice Department is also trying to forfeit his home and farm land worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

As Obama knows better than most, it's a freaking PLANT. One does not manufacture it, and you shouldn't put "folks" in prison for any sort of involvement with it.
What I was looking for with Obama is courage, not politically viable gamesmanship. On this and many other fronts.
I wish the fuck he was the leader that could have that could have stood up before the nation when Citizens United sealed our fate and said; "we must join together now and do something to save the Republic".
But of course lurking in the shadows all along were Biden, the ghoulish Summers and his puppet master Rubin.

38389   anonymous   2013 Oct 10, 3:13am  

http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/09/16/police-made-one-marijuana-arrest-every-42-seconds-in-2012

http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013/17220/us-drug-czar-federal-marijuana-laws-will-prevail-expect-arrests-to-continue/

Under US federal law, possession of marijuana is punishable by up to a year in prison and a $1,000 fine for a first offense, going up to three years and $5,000 for repeat offenses.

On its website, the Office of National Drug Control Policy says marijuana has “a high potential for abuse and no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States” as well as a raft of health risks.

Last week, the head of the US Drug Enforcement Agency, Michele Leonhart, told Congress it had seized $2.8 billion dollars in illicit drugs assets and profits, including some $750 million in cash.

38390   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 10, 3:15am  

No.

Next question, please.

38391   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 10, 3:20am  

Wall Street doesn't give a shit if birth control is outlawed, women's suffrage is repealed, and creationism mandated for all high-school biology courses.

They crawled in bed with the Christianist right 33 years ago, and it makes money for them.

38392   freak80   2013 Oct 10, 3:47am  

HydroCabron says

They crawled in bed with the Christianist right 33 years ago, and it makes money for them.

Of course they did. They know that religion is the opiate of the masses, just like Marx did.

Don't worry about your miserable life now. There's a Pie in the Sky when you Die. Or at least that's what my parents taught me.

38393   Robert Sproul   2013 Oct 10, 4:14am  

errc says

Leonhart

Leonhart!
This dead-eyed apparatchik is a perfect example of an unnecessarily
retrograde Obama appointment.
She is a caricature of a self-serving, uncaring, obtuse, bureaucrat.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/EAO

38394   ttsmyf   2013 Oct 10, 7:38am  

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Thursday, October 10, 2013 __ Level is 96.6

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes indeed, go here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

38395   exfatguy   2013 Oct 11, 9:15am  

That can easily be fixed with a sprinkle of lower interest rates and a dash of more QE.

It's different this time.

38396   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 11, 9:25am  

i would skip the Realtor trash and go the independent source like DQnews.com

http://www.dqnews.com/

http://www.dqnews.com/Articles/2013/News/California/Bay-Area/RRBay130913.aspx

38397   New Renter   2013 Oct 11, 12:25pm  

Musta have run out of all cash Chindian buyers....

38398   wave9x   2013 Oct 11, 12:58pm  

According to your stats:

YoY median +18.4%
YoY foreclosures -48.8%
YoY short sales -53.3%
YoY days on market -24.4%

Those numbers are pretty brutal... for buyers though, not sellers.

38399   ttsmyf   2013 Oct 12, 7:24am  

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, October 11, 2013 __ Level is 97.3

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes indeed, go here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

38400   Blurtman   2013 Oct 12, 9:25am  

Homeland Security tanks get ready to roll!

38401   ChapulinColorado   2013 Oct 12, 10:31am  

egads101 says

wait on, you stupid fuck, it is OBVIOUSLY the republican teatard's responsibility.

are you really this stupid?

Do you have to use this language to make your point? I thought Roberto was an educated professional. This is hardly the language an educated professional would need to over-use. Sparing use of vulgar language I think is fine, but this is just plain over-use. Let's make a better effort to prove that you are indeed as smart as you say you are, please.

38402   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Oct 12, 11:08am  

Call it Crazy says

Typical.... You're clueless on who administers and runs the SNAP program...

I know, I know! It's JP Morgan Chase.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/01/jp-morgan-s-food-stamp-empire.html

38403   smaulgld   2013 Oct 12, 11:42am  

Actually in the long term raising the debt ceiling amd appointing Yellen will cause economic catastrophe eventually

38404   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 12, 12:35pm  

Call it Crazy says

Waiting for the Duck to blame the Repubs for the EBT shut-down in 5, 4, 3, 2, .....

that was good.. even though the Duck didnt make it Second Banana Roberto filled right in..

38405   bob2356   2013 Oct 12, 1:45pm  

egads101 says

threw the years,

where did you throw the years to? Good thing you're a math major.

38406   Vicente   2013 Oct 12, 2:34pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

FACE!

It's ALL THAT'S LEFT for dinner!

38407   ChapulinColorado   2013 Oct 12, 6:51pm  

What about the prairie oysters?

Isn't that on the Apocalyptic GOP menu?

My impression was that Mitt Romney was dishing some to Paul Ryan while on the 2012 campaign trail.

Ryan was quite a brown-noser.

38408   lostand confused   2013 Oct 12, 10:32pm  

While human meat might be tasty, American meat will need new recipes to deal with the extra fat.

38409   Blurtman   2013 Oct 13, 6:33am  

We need a great hero like General Douglas MacArthur to attack and kill these ungrateful fiends.

38410   Vicente   2013 Oct 13, 6:48am  

Say, do we have memorials for Afghanistan & Iraq yet?

It baffles me Fox Newsers aren't calling for the memorials to be sold to private concerns, who can keep them operating 24x7 assuming ticket & concession sales support that.

38411   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Oct 13, 7:06am  

Here's a song for all those Galt Gulch Revolutionary Schemers:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/IivGqwQvdCI

38412   smaulgld   2013 Oct 13, 9:09am  

I think they call them "barrycades"

38413   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 13, 9:13am  

I'm surprised to hear of taxpayer-funded installations of any sort in Washington, D.C.

Isn't the Federal Government unconstitutional?

38414   Dan8267   2013 Oct 13, 10:29am  

smaulgld says

I think they call them "barrycades"

Why, the GOP is completely responsible for the government shutdown. They even snuck in legislation at the last minute to ensure that the Republican shutdown of the government could not be overturned as normal, so as to ensure that the Democrats had absolutely no power to stop the shutdown. As such, the Republicans are 100% responsible for the shutdown they planned, they orchestrated, and they wanted. And the Republicans are 100% responsible for all the consequences of that shutdown including the closing of the Vietnam memorial or the WWII memorial.

The barricades should be called Boehnercades, not Barrycades. That is, if you want to be honest.

There is a hell of a lot of evil things I blame on Obama. The government shutdown ain't one them.

38415   Dan8267   2013 Oct 13, 11:32am  

Call it Crazy says

Dan8267 says

Why, the GOP is completely responsible for the government shutdown

Sounds like echos of the duck.....

Ad Hominem proves nothing.

38416   Dan8267   2013 Oct 13, 11:33am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

FACE!

It's ALL THAT'S LEFT for dinner!

Can you use Food Stamps for face?

38417   Homeboy   2013 Oct 13, 12:37pm  

Call it Crazy says

Dan8267 says

Call it Crazy says

Dan8267 says

Why, the GOP is completely responsible for the government shutdown

Sounds like echos of the duck.....

Ad Hominem proves nothing.

We don't need to hear it in stereo....

O.K., I'll add a third voice, then. Dan's an asshole, but he happens to be right this time. This is one hundred percent the republicans' doing.

38418   freak80   2013 Oct 13, 12:51pm  

Dan8267 says

Can you use Food Stamps for face?

Face is included in the WIC program.

38419   freak80   2013 Oct 13, 12:54pm  

On a more serious note: why do so many folks on PatNet keep linking to Zero Hedge? It's considered a crank website by some:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

38420   freak80   2013 Oct 13, 1:10pm  

Call it Crazy says

By September 2009, Zero Hedge had begun drawing more traffic than more established financial websites[4] with 333,000 unique visitors a month, impressing even those who say the news site is full of conspiracy theory and "apocalyptic world view".[3] Durden says two-thirds of its readers are from Wall Street.[1] According to Quantcast, Zero Hedge has as of 2012 a monthly global traffic of 1.8 million people.[6] Under the name Tyler Durden, Ivandjiiski was interviewed on Bloomberg Radio[2][7] and Zero Hedge has been quoted in the Columbia Journalism Review.[8]


Zero Hedge celebrated one billion views in June 2013.[10]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

38421   mell   2013 Oct 13, 1:52pm  

While it is abused for political games, the government shutdown is not a bad thing per se. But I would support it more if the politicians and other high-ranking officials (excl. pay/gratuity for completed military duty) would be furloughed as well and if there is additional legislation making any backdated pay illegal.

38422   ChapulinColorado   2013 Oct 13, 6:32pm  

"apocalyptic world view".

Face is on the menu.

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