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41026   hrhjuliet   2013 Dec 30, 11:04am  

It feels just like the last bubble to me. Have we all already forgotten how it felt before the crash, with everyone screaming, buy, buy, buy now before it is too late? I can still remember the pressure to buy, the complete lack of real information in the media. I have an article I saved from the week before the bubble burst in a major local newspaper about why it's never been a better time to buy, and why you should do anything to "get in" and if you can't you will be left out in the cold...all statistics being backed by the National Real Estate Association.

41027   Strategist   2013 Dec 30, 11:05am  

Wow, a 5 year old could could have made 31% in the stock market.
How much did the bears make?

41028   Strategist   2013 Dec 30, 11:06am  

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Strategist........

Looks cheap to me.

Yep, we already know how responsible you are with money..... Go ask your wife for your allowance....

She said I don't deserve any.

41029   Bellingham Bill   2013 Dec 30, 11:08am  

bullshitmagnet says

The volume of all gold produced in any one year (worldwide) would be a cube approximately 14 feet on each side

12 million people are millionaires:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/10158420/A-record-breaking-number-of-millionaires-in-the-world.html

3000 tonnes / year production:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/20/gold-mine-output-idUSL5N0J44T720131120

leaves a measly 8 oz of mine production per millionaire.

I'm not particularly bearish on gold at these prices. i.e. DCA is good enough now.

Wish I'd been DCAing in the 1990s, sigh.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=qtG

gold vs. diesel

41030   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 30, 11:10am  

Call it Crazy says

Check out the Bay Area chart.... looks "bubbly" to me...

41031   Strategist   2013 Dec 30, 11:13am  

Thomas, are you in a time warp? We are about to start 2014.

41032   Facebooksux   2013 Dec 30, 11:19am  

bullshitmagnet says

Interesting (maybe useless facts): the total amount of gold ever produced is approximately the volume of a cube 82 feet on each side.

The total amount of platinum ever produced would fit into a cube approximately 20 feet on each side.

The volume of all gold produced in any one year (worldwide) would be a cube approximately 14 feet on each side.

That's the point.

41033   mmmarvel   2013 Dec 30, 11:42am  

HEY YOU says

Wonder if Phil Robertson eats pork, shellfish, crayfish,catfish,etc. as a Christian?

This just shows that you don't know the Bible. As Christians we are bound by the New Testament. Many things prohibited in the old testament that were changed/repealed in the New Testament. If he were claiming to Jewish (converted or otherwise) then you'd have a point, but he's claiming to be Christian.

41034   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 30, 11:45am  

foxmannumber1 says

What liberals call 'white privilege' is just the genetic IQ gap between whites and hispanics/blacks.

White Privilege is what keeps Jesse "James" Jackson and his kind well funded and politically connected for many generations...

God forbid WP disappears and so does his 'bread and butter".

41035   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 11:46am  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

They are obvious hand signals. What is it that you don't understand?

Yeah, every time a mother strokes a child's hair it's a clear signal sent straight from the neocon-zionist overlords. Or not.

So what is your motive, Bigsby? You said I should not waste my retirement this way but you must not be retired then? Who do you work for?

Motive? Showing what complete bullshit it is that you post.
And who do I work for? None of your business. But I know you used to work for the US government. Some might think you are a plant to make truthers look like morons. You must have got a really good bonus this year.

And still deleting posts I see.

41036   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 11:55am  

bgamall4 says

No, I did not work for the US government. I worked for county government. And I helped poor people you idiot.

So you say. Why should I believe anything you say? Everything is a conspiracy according to you.

41037   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 11:56am  

bgamall4 says

It is none of my business because if we all knew we would know you are a NWO cretin. There are cretins and there are NWO cretins. Here is where you need to be an atheist. God has always opposed those empires and men who refuse to honor the sovereignty of nations. God warned us once at the Tower of Babel. Now we have the Tower of Basel and we have a destruction of sovereignty once again.

God's wrath will come upon you Bigsby, sooner or later. You may be anonymous to us but God has every hair on your head counted, and your end will be dreadful. Mark my words Bigsby, that time will come.

http://www.newcovenanttheology.com/p/new-covenant-theology-doctrine.html

Would you mind translating that gibberish into something human beings can understand?

41038   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 12:00pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

No, I did not work for the US government. I worked for county government. And I helped poor people you idiot.

So you say. Why should I believe anything you say? Everything is a conspiracy according to you.

It doesn't matter if you believe what I say or not. That is totally irrelevant. Believe what you will.

Believing or not believing what someone says is totally irrelevant? You sure inhabit a strange world.

41039   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 30, 12:12pm  

Strategist says

Thomas, are you in a time warp? We are about to start 2014.

LOL! and WE still cant shake off the 2009 recession, still with us today.

So where are we REALLY at ? No! we are nowhere near 2014 or 2013...

41040   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 12:18pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

And those who falsely accuse parents of faking their childrens' deaths?

It is a known fact that absence of red eyes and or absence of tears is a sign of no emotion. If you add the hyperventilation, the lying interviews, the reading from scripts into that mix, I feel comfortable in accusing these parents of lying. I have no problem at all with it.

Desperate much? And you are accusing them of lying over the internet. When are you going to do it face to face?

41041   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 12:24pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

You deleted my post asking if you were a member of the one-third of Americans who don't believe in evolution. Good grief.

Just tidying up. That is for another debate. I believe that DNA makes the same animal over and over. That is pretty scientific, actually. The burden of proof would be on those who don't believe dogs begat dogs.

But I don't argue the point because the gospel is the power of God, not winning a debate over evolution.

You were the one who brought up your God and clay. Is that not for a different discussion? Perhaps you should focus on cleaning up your own posts. You're going to be busy given how often you stray off topic.

41042   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 12:25pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Arff.

Now you bark? Is it a permanent condition?

Laughter seems to be my permanent condition when I read your posts.

And why do you delete posts that you quote? Rather stupid, wouldn't you say?

41043   anonymous   2013 Dec 30, 12:30pm  

Jesus h christ bigsby wuit engaging him,,,,,you're more of a clown then he is with this nonsense because you allow this crap to remain at the top of the home page

41044   anonymous   2013 Dec 30, 12:34pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

nd why do you delete posts that you quote? Rather stupid, wouldn't you say?

No, I am condensing the thread because most of your input is fluff.

The thread is titled emilys cockeyed arm cannot go unchallenged. Did you expect this to yield substance

41045   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 12:51pm  

bgamall4 says

No, I am condensing the thread because most of your input is fluff.

You should delete all your posts in that case.

41046   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 12:52pm  

bgamall4 says

Gun ownership is a fundamental right of Americans, and is not meant to start some shooting in the street. It is to keep the Zionists honest and at bay.

I must have missed that part in my class on American history.

You're rather fixated on these 'zionists', aren't you Bgamall?

41047   Bigsby   2013 Dec 30, 12:55pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

I must have missed that part in my class on American history.

Well, did you think you would learn American history being British?

Do you think they ban classes on world history in Europe?

41048   hanera   2013 Dec 30, 3:20pm  

GOOG is more than 40% higher than the pre-crisis in 2008.
... number of Googlers' wealth have increased by ... %.

AAPL is more than 170% higher than the pre-crisis in 2008.
... number of Apple badges' wealth have increased by ... %.

Since 2008, there are
... number of new millionaires/multi-millionaires/billionaires from FB.
... number of new millionaires/multi-millionaires/billionaires from TWTR.
... number of new millionaires/multi-millionaires/billionaires from TSLA

Many employees of above companies can easily pay CASH for at least one house in SFBA, some many more. Many multiples more can afford the 20% downpayment. In conclusion, why is it so surprisingly that the real estate prices have went above the pre-crisis high of 2008?

41049   CrazyMan   2013 Dec 30, 4:12pm  

The entire employee count, plus stock holders of each of the above, accounts for what, 1 or 2%, of the entire bay area population? If that?

There's what, 13 million people that live here?

Yeah.

QE, to infinity and beyond!

41050   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 30, 4:20pm  

hanera says

Since 2008, there are

what happened to Zynga and Pandora...

41051   Buster   2013 Dec 30, 4:57pm  

CrazyMan says

The entire employee count, plus stock holders of each of the above, accounts for what, 1 or 2%, of the entire bay area population? If that?

There's what, 13 million people that live here?

Yeah.

QE, to infinity and beyond!

FYI;
The current population of the 9 county SFB area is 7.15 million. If you use the OMB classification, or 11 counties, the SF Bay area population is 8.37 million.

41052   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2013 Dec 30, 5:26pm  

hanera says

In conclusion, why is it so surprisingly that the real estate prices have went above the pre-crisis high of 2008?

because that would be rational thinking.

41053   HydroCabron   2013 Dec 30, 10:37pm  

Could you post those same photos of those two different women a few more times? The first dozen times did not work.

And another dozen posts of the crying video would also make your research much stronger, I think.

41054   Strategist   2013 Dec 30, 11:14pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

Strategist says

Thomas, are you in a time warp? We are about to start 2014.

LOL! and WE still cant shake off the 2009 recession, still with us today.

So where are we REALLY at ? No! we are nowhere near 2014 or 2013...

A few minutes ago CNBC announced the Dow Jones just hit another all time high.
It is now above 16,500. With a few hours left for 2013, it is about 30% higher for the year, the highest gain in 16 years.
My friend, that is not a sign of a recession, but the sign of an economy about to charge ahead.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101303244

41055   Dan8267   2013 Dec 30, 11:38pm  

Socialite behind bars after swiping $5G sweater

The real WTF is how could a sweater cost five G's when everyone knows the best sweaters are made from the skin of realtors.

41057   New Renter   2013 Dec 31, 1:56am  

bob2356 says

New Renter says

Well if you bought the RIGHT car back in 1938 and kept it up you could sell it today for a bit better than inflation

Except that you'd be WAY too old to enjoy the money.

Depends on how smart you were with the car along the way. If you rented it out for special events, movies etc you might have generated enough income to buy one of these in the mid 50's:

http://www.hagerty.com/price-guide/1957-Mercedes~Benz-300SL

Do the same and you might have picked up one of these secondhand in the 1970's

http://www.hagerty.com/price-guide/1969-Ferrari-Dino_246_GT

And all the while with beautiful women throwing themselves in your way.

The car IS the money to be enjoyed.

41058   Ceffer   2013 Dec 31, 2:08am  

When it came to her own skin, Ayn Rand was just another commie pinko.

Long live the commie pinkos! Parasites rule, until the hosts are eviscerated husks!

Then, it's time for face 'n yams.

41059   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 31, 3:38am  

Wait a minute this is fucking rich, you are saying her ideology has failed her? Even though she died worth a million, back when a million was worth a million bucks?

Then you go into this mental gymnastics that has her scrubbing her undershorts at the YWCA and eating cat food if she were alive today.

You guys are so fucking funny, it's really entertaining to watch you work.
You know it's been almost 30 years since her death, and She would be even 30 years older today, and since the Old farts are evil money magnets, then I counter your ludicrous claims with a more plausible fact, while her million dollars wouldn't be worth doodeley squat into today's nest egg building materials.
Who's to say she wouldn't parleyed her million dollars back then in the Apple start up. I wager that if she were alive today, she would have been the CEO of Apple after she killed Steve Jobs off with that strategically jabbed Pancreas Cancer jab.

Here's one for you might really like.

So this Liberal research Vessel went to Antarctica to research all of the Ice melting on the planet and to prove once and for all that Global warming is for realzies. 'cept they got frozen in their tracks due to this weird shit they've been ignoring all along called "ICE".
So then some Scandinavians tried to come to their rescue and free them from the ice so they could continue the Lords work. But then they got stuck in the ice. So then the Chinese being the attention seeking whores they are, tried to send an ice breaker to rescue them and ran into the first ice sheet they not able to penetrate just six miles from the Ship of researchers, vacationers, thrill seekers, and grant and trust fund babies.

Yeah fun times fun times. In spite of all this the team says this all just proves that Climate change is for real. Because nobody expects an impenetrable pack ice in the Antarctic.

41060   CrazyMan   2013 Dec 31, 4:21am  

Fair enough. 7 million instead of 13.

It's still a miniscule portion of the population.

41061   marcus   2013 Dec 31, 4:51am  

CaptainShuddup says

So this Liberal research Vessel went to Antarctica to research all of the Ice melting on the planet and to prove once and for all that Global warming is for realzies. 'cept they got frozen in their tracks due to this weird shit they've been ignoring all along called "ICE".

Amusing.

My favorite parts of your interpretation of this story.

1) The purpose of the trip was science related to global warming. Therefore they are "liberals." You can't make this shit up.

2) Their being trapped by ice is some kind of implicit proof of how wrong these liberal douchebags are with their assumptions about global warming.

A quote from the story you didn't finish comprehending...

"We're stuck in our own experiment," the Australasian Antarctic Expedition said in a statement Monday. “We came to Antarctica to study how one of the biggest icebergs in the world has altered the system by trapping ice. We ... are now ourselves trapped by ice surrounding our ship.”

The fact that nearly every year the projections of global warmings impact on polar ice caps have been exceeded, is a fact that can't be denied. But hey, this story and your misunderstanding of it do make for a good distraction. The timing is interesting too, coinciding with the most dire predictions about global warming to have come out yet.

41062   marcus   2013 Dec 31, 5:30am  

Hey Captain, do you ever ask yourself why the stories like that one about the stuck ship are big on fox, but predictions of fringe science global warming extremists are not ?

Consider this timeline:

* Late 2007: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) announces that the planet will see a one degree Celsius temperature increase due to climate change by 2100.

* Late 2008: The Hadley Centre for Meteorological Research predicts a 2C increase by 2100.

* Mid-2009: The U.N. Environment Programme predicts a 3.5C increase by 2100. Such an increase would remove habitat for human beings on this planet, as nearly all the plankton in the oceans would be destroyed, and associated temperature swings would kill off many land plants. Humans have never lived on a planet at 3.5C above baseline.

* October 2009: The Hadley Centre for Meteorological Research releases an updated prediction, suggesting a 4C temperature increase by 2060.

* November 2009: The Global Carbon Project, which monitors the global carbon cycle, and the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a climate science report, predict 6C and 7C temperature increases, respectively, by 2100.

* December 2010: The U.N. Environment Programme predicts up to a 5C increase by 2050.

* 2012: The conservative International Energy Agency’s World Energy Outlook report for that year states that we are on track to reach a 2C increase by 2017.

* November 2013: The International Energy Agency predicts a 3.5C increase by 2035.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175785/tomgram%3A_dahr_jamail%2C_the_climate_change_scorecard/

41063   ttsmyf   2013 Dec 31, 5:51am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Tuesday, December 31, 2013 __ Level is 106.3

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

41064   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 31, 6:14am  

Science doesn't lie it has Scientist for that.

41065   Strategist   2013 Dec 31, 8:48am  

Does your wife know you still play with crayons?

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