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Call it Crazy says

We already know you don't read complete threads for the answers... Go check
out the post above from your butt-buddy, you'll find what you're looking
for....

Wow--lots of sarcasm from someone who doesn't know the difference between average and median.

Care to try again?

Then why should we believe you?bob2356 says

SoftShell says

So by your own sarcastic volition everything you say must be false.

bob2356 says

Oh of course I forgot, it's on the web so it has to be true.

I don't believe in things that come from an obscure anomonous reference

CIC--

Since you claim I never post any data or links, here's one for you.

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-average-and-median/

Read up!

bgamall4 says

So what is your point?

My point is, the girl is not laughing. Her cheek and the side of her mouth are being pushed up by the woman's arm.

Call it Crazy says

Who knows how many lines there are, but the question is, can ANY company go in and re-work all the operational pieces in a few months and get it to work right??

No. What does that have to do with what I said? You're the one who said "all 500 million lines".

MrEd says

Then why should we believe you

Believe me about what? I said that in my opinion is that there isn't 500 million lines of code or even close. That's why it's called an opinion, there's nothing to believe. If I said there ARE less than 500 million lines of code then that's called a statement and you are free to believe or disbelieve me. Or even prove me wrong if you can find any proof.

bgamall4 says

Homeboy says

My point is, the girl is not laughing. Her cheek and the side of her mouth are being pushed up by the woman's arm.

You are one dumb fuck.

Whoah! Geezus, Big Mal! You do not cuss a guy out for simply disagreeing with you!

But...let's go with your premise: let's say the girl isn't having her face distorted by an overly huggy bear. I think it's possible that the kid is just weirded-out. She's got all kinds of chemicals coursing through her tiny brain. Adrenaline can make you pretty freaky. Mix that in with somebody taking her photo...you know, she's suddenly thrust into something very dramatic, and the eye is on her. Maybe she never received that kind of attention anywhere else ever before. Given our celebrity worship culture, I think it is not unreasonable to think she was camera conscious.

If she was smiling, it seems very likely to me that it was more to do with sheer bewilderment, and less likely a case of, "we're gonna fool them all!"

What's going on right now? The price is completely flat. Some circuitbreaker tripped?

Edit: NM. MLK holiday.

humanity says

I'm not saying manipulation doesn't happen. I think that the money markets
are manipulated a little with QE. And there was a time when Gold and Silver were
manipulated by the hunt brothers. But they had their heads handed to them.

How about when upgrades/downgrades on stocks are issued? Manipulation? I think they should be banned from doing this.

You are not a software engineer, thus have no qualifications to comment on this subject.
500 million lines of code is easy to achieve through inheritance, canned classes and objects that are bought 3 party to achieve rapid code development.
Unfortunately, this is at the cost of security and throughput.

bob2356 says

SoftShell says

So by your own sarcastic volition everything you say must be false.

bob2356 says

Oh of course I forgot, it's on the web so it has to be true.

No, that's a very poor read of what I said. I don't believe in things that come from an obscure anonomous reference to be engraved in stone especially when they seem very unlikely. Even when someone puts them up in a very nice looking chart.

It's called skepticism, something that somehow seems to be lost when dealing with the internet. Maybe there are 500 million lines of code, but I don't know that and neither do you so your assertions that having 500 million lines of code is the problem are meaningless.

CaptainShuddup says

"Obama won and we "ALL" lost."

PhRMA did not loose. ACA passed with no re-import provision and they have millions of new customers headed their way, many with tax dollars in hand.

The gun industry and NRA did not loose. Background checks (required for all sales from dealers) are up 66% since Obama was elected and all ten of the record setting sales weeks followed his announcements of anti-gun schemes. NRA membership now totals 5 million.

General Motors and AIG won big. The real estate industry is doing far better than it would have without Obama's assistance appointing fed governors who buy $40B/month of their mortgage backed securities, keep interest rates down, and keep property prices up.

The military-industrial complex is still doing great. Even with the budget caps and sequestration we're matching the cold-war peak in real dollars.

I guess this means an end to the "STFU Dirty Hollyweird Liberals" mantra among the Conservatarian crowd.

As soon as someone in Hollywood says something conservatives like, the rule that celebrities should have no say in politics is suspended.

You might want to take this into account:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2014/01/19/mega-default-in-china-scheduled-for-january-31/

Richard and Sandra Weiner of Denville have filed suit in state Superior Court in Passaic County alleging breach of trust and fiduciary duties against Coldwell Banker of Madison and Wayne residents, and Coldwell agents, Robert Lindsay and Jeannemarie Phelan. The Weiners are seeking compensatory damages for invasion of privacy, infliction of emotional distress, breach of contract, trespass of land and other civil counts.

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Is this even real?

What the hell kind of name is Richard Weiner

bgamall4 says

You are one dumb fuck.

Great argument. You've really convinced me.

bgamall4 says

Even in the phony picture, her eyes are still smiling.

I disagree.

Boy, you really know how to talk somebody into becoming a realtor.

There are thousands of images of the kids on that day. Care to post up a few more Bgamall or would that work against your moronic narrative?

Everyone needs to take a break & ....

http://www.elyrics.net/read/j/jonathan-edwards-lyrics/shanty-lyrics.html

It's true that 95% of female real estate agents have intelligent DNA in them...

But 87% of them spit it out.

Obligatory:

bgamall4 says

The world's wealthiest people aren't known for travelling by bus

Oh yes they do! Its even a double decker!

http://www.luxist.com/2008/02/13/private-airbus-a380-to-get-a-gold-paint-job/

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud the soon-to-be owner of the first private Airbus A380 is sparing no expense to make his doubledecker toy the most fabulously extravagant jet on the planet. He spent over $300 million on the plane and is currently spending more than half that much money on customizing the jet. As we've mentioned before on this site, the jet will have a whirlpool bath and sauna, a dining room paneled in marble, a gym and a desert-themed fiber-optic mural. The most incredible touch might just be the approximately $58 million he is spending to have the plane painted in gold leaf on the outside. It not only sounds luxurious it also sounds a little dangerous if the sun bounces off it. The plane will be ready in two years, until then, the prince will have to content himself with his current ride, his own 747 jumbo jet.

Their buses just fly:

errc says

Is this even real?

What the hell kind of name is Richard Weiner

This kind:

This is the feel good section of patrick.net

FortWayne says

This is the feel good section of patrick.net

Its where your dreams come to die.

This isn't fun anymore. You're just sad, bgamall. Off to ignore-land for you.

Analyzer says

What would keep gold from falling right through the $1000 level?

It would seem to me to be purchases both in Asia and government purchases

New Renter says

You tell me.

Still waiting.

New Renter says

150k for what appears to be a nice, creek side 0.62 acre lot with utilities
available zoned for two single family units. Lot is not pancake flat but there
are several other homes along that creek that seem to have dealt with a sloped
lot.

That sounds very low to me. I'm not in the BA, but nice lots in the Midwest or Northeast run $300-400K so I can't believe you can get one in the BA for $75K. That's very low.

Hell, developers pay $300K for a house, then pay to tear it down just so they can get the lot....

Call it Crazy says

Is that a normal occurrence in Westfield??

Yep--I've seen probably 5-10 tear downs in the last 6 months just in my neighborhood (which is not considered the nicest area of town). And $300K is probably the very bottom end.

tatupu70 says

New Renter says

150k for what appears to be a nice, creek side 0.62 acre lot with utilities

available zoned for two single family units. Lot is not pancake flat but there

are several other homes along that creek that seem to have dealt with a sloped

lot.

That sounds very low to me. I'm not in the BA, but nice lots in the Midwest or Northeast run $300-400K so I can't believe you can get one in the BA for $75K. That's very low.

Hell, developers pay $300K for a house, then pay to tear it down just so they can get the lot....

I provided a link - take a look yourself.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orinda/0-MORAGA-Way-94563/home/50264796

A large parcel in Los Gatos sold last year for 2.4M. Sounds like a lot but the lot was 66 acres. That's only $36k/acre.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Gatos/16100-Greenridge-Ter-95032/home/17494446

Yes I understand it will need to be developed and yes some ares will be unbuildable. So the unbuildable areas become parks (or extra sized lots) while the choicest lots are built on. Lets say only half the acreage is used for houses, that's still the same price as the Orinda lot I showed.
Then there was this little gem:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Saratoga/16981-Bohlman-Rd-95070/home/555325

Redfin has removed the pricing info but I was following it late last year.

New Renter says

Or if you are feeling lucky and want to get your hands dirty keep your eye out for little gems like this one.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Saratoga/16981-Bohlman-Rd-95070/home/555325

This house was for sale a few months ago for $600k The price dropped to $500k a few weeks later. The description indicated the house was unsafe to enter and would require at least $350k of work to fix. The house went pending on Dec 3 ago but the deal fell through two days later. Now its off the market so who knows, the sellers might be even more motivated.

For the right (cash) buyer that could become a 4000 sqft house on 4 acres of Saratoga CA 95070 for under $1M. That's hard to beat!

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The comments had mentioned the house was unstable and would need a lot of work. Last time I looked back in December it was listed as "pending".

New Renter says

I provided a link - take a look yourself.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orinda/0-MORAGA-Way-94563/home/50264796

I did--I'm not familiar with the area, but it sounds like an outlier rather than market price. I only wonder if there's a reason it's priced so low...

Maybe others on here can weigh in on what a market price for a buildable lot is?

tatupu70 says

New Renter says

I provided a link - take a look yourself.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orinda/0-MORAGA-Way-94563/home/50264796

I did--I'm not familiar with the area, but it sounds like an outlier rather than market price. I only wonder if there's a reason it's priced so low...

Maybe others on here can weigh in on what a market price for a buildable lot is?

Well here is a 1.6 acre hillside Orinda lot for $240k

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orinda/19-La-Encinal-94563/home/23349293

Best priced estate sized lot (1.6 acres) on this hillside hideaway w/ approved 3,457 sq. ft. 4 bed/5 bath home w/ living, dining & family rooms along w/ office & bonus room over 2 car garage & breezeway to main house in prestigous Orinda. Yearly Rd. Maint. Fee of $200.

Here's a smaller (0.40 acres) lot for $219k

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orinda/55-Oak-Rd-94563/home/39979772

Very sloped but that is not a dealbreaker for some as most buyers in SF and the mountains of SoCal can attest.

This Orinda lot has no address BUT its half an acre for $99k

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orinda/Undisclosed-address-94563/home/45458185

There are of course MUCH more expensive lots for sale, my only point is it is very possible to build a house for less than buying a comparable existing home. Yes its a huge PITA to build a house. Yes the number of buildable lots are limited.

There are advantages though. You get a BRAND NEW house built to all current codes the way YOU want*

You want a basement/dungeon? Sure!
You want a dome house or stone castle? If it floats your boat!
How about a five care garage with lift? You'd be stupid not to.

No termite damage, no dryrot, no asbestos, no leaky roofs, no questionable foundation, no ancient pipes or wiring.

*building code, CCRs, budget and spouse permitting

It sure seems like another bubble is about to burst.

Here is a very well researched article: http://patrick.net/housing/crash1.html

Call it Crazy says

As DataQuick recently reported, the median price for a "Bay Area" home hit $548,500 in December, which is slightly down from November, but still up 23.9% from $442,750 a year earlier, the research firm said.

San Francisco prices are getting closer to levels reached in the 2006-2007 bubble when the median Bay Area price hit the $665,000-mark.

Looks undervalued to me. The median will easily approach $900,000 in just a few years.

hrhjuliet says

It sure seems like another bubble is about to burst.

Set a date, ballpark range...

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

As DataQuick recently reported, the median price for a "Bay Area" home hit $548,500 in December, which is slightly down from November, but still up 23.9% from $442,750 a year earlier, the research firm said.

San Francisco prices are getting closer to levels reached in the 2006-2007 bubble when the median Bay Area price hit the $665,000-mark.

Looks undervalued to me. The median will easily approach $900,000 in just a few years.

Mad props for making Roberto look like a real estate bear!

I think it will level off next month, and many of the numbers that point to the leveling off will be down played in the media. I don't think a true downturn will happen until winter of next year. No one can possibly know, but this is my guess.

If your in the bottom half of that elite list, rather than taking $10 from each of the 3.5 B people to grow your wealth - wouldn't it make more sense to knock off a person in the top 10 and take their winnings?

seriously though. You can't get blood from a stone. Played out over an indefinite time span, they'd have to start turning on each other if the name of the game is perpetual wealth building.

It's all Obama's fault!!!

That's 20% that will vote according to how their bread is buttered.

Good job Obama.

Oh well, the GOP always has Gerrymandering.