patrick.net

I suggest you immediately put together a NSF grant proposal to find out. Sure science funding is tight but this, THIS is exactly the type of question science exists to answer! Any grant review committee will break out into spontaneous applause upon reading just the abstract.

There could even be a Nobel prize in it.

How many realtors can dance on a pinhead? I prefer to think of all of them dancing on the sharp end.

I will have my dancers do a rain dance. It was been far too dry. My garden is pretty dead looking. The farmers are getting nervous and we are going to be on drought restrictions this spring for sure.

bgamall4 says

OK Bigs, what do you have to say about the Lavon Affair. Do you deny the Lavon Affair, the false flag by Israel, admitted by Israel, against the property of the US in Egypt?

It happened in 1954. It was admitted to in 2005. Zionism has always been mean to the USA.

OMG, it's just so mean to blow up a couple books without hurting anyone in 1954. The US has never recovered from this outrage. It has affected generations of Americans thinking. You know if you really looked hard on the internet I'll bet you could find something even more obscure to be outraged about.

How does it feel to be the weirdest person on the planet?

SoftShell says

This one single line sums up your ignorance on the subject.

However, I would not be too worried as 99.9999% of the population are with you.

bob2356 says

It's basically filling in a screen and sending it off.

Your proof that I'm wrong consists of what exactly? Feel free to show me your intimate famliiarity with the design of healthcare,gov. Yea right, that will happen right before the sun goes supernova. I won't hold my breath. It's a web page. Fill in the information and pass it along to be processed. I was doing that in CICS in the 70's for christ sakes. The concept hasn't changed. The insurance companies did all the actuarial back end work. That's where the heavy coding is.

You remind me of when Jesse Jackson wanted to be mayor of DC and Al Sharpton said "The only thing Jesse Jackson knows how to run is his mouth".

curious2 says

Regarding the "Information is Beautiful" codebases graphic, I'm amazed by the statement that the "average" high end car has 100 million lines of code. By that metric, Healthcare.gov has fewer lines of code than a fast food drive-thru lane.

I don't find that surprising at all. Cars have 50-100 computers many of them doing complex real time processing. http://spectrum.ieee.org/green-tech/advanced-cars/this-car-runs-on-code I am surprised that software can be 30-40% of the cost of a car in the high end.

CDon says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

sbh says

Depression on its way

p=1228603&page=2#comments

OK, let me get out my calendar. Let's see, breadlines by when? How 'bout April 1? That's got a nice ring to it. And riots by June 15.

It really is nothing to joke about. The snap to worse times will be quicker than anyone predicted.

Speaking of old predictions - you want to go back to this summer when you were all hysterical about us seeing some sort of epic decline in Case Shiller values?

/?p=1228603&page=2#comments

Good point, I can feel the bull market energy all over the place. Hope you don't own stocks or houses. Get ready to be crushed. Better make sure that job is as secure as you think. It'll be a perfect trifecta if you are let go at work as well. Don't be surprised as many will.

Oh, I could go on and on about how numerous industry giants with intimate knowledge of the requirements of a system such as healthcare.gov, with it's need to interface with thousands of patchwork insurer subsytems, each with their own set of security/speed/efficiency/bugs to deal with, have doomed the government version to hell.

But why bother taking the long road, when Occams Razor succiently covers the details.
for why a piece of software that, as you screetch, consists of "basically filling in a screen and sending it off", has been deemed inoperable by anyone and everyone, and must be rebuilt from the ground up.

For whom are we to believe, the Bill Gates / Larry Ellison's of the world, or little bobby2356 from PcMatic dot dickhead?

Occam's norelco suggests you have crabs in your beard. Time for you to break out the hydragel...

bob2356 says

SoftShell says

This one single line sums up your ignorance on the subject.

However, I would not be too worried as 99.9999% of the population are with you.

bob2356 says

It's basically filling in a screen and sending it off.

Your proof that I'm wrong consists of what exactly? Feel free to show me your intimate famliiarity with the design of healthcare,gov.

Based on your healthcare.gov comments, I'm not surprised you are surprised.

bob2356 says

I am surprised that software can be 30-40% of the cost of a car in the high end.

sbh says

I'm not joking about the real-life agony that results from deflationary crashes and the depressions that result. I'm making light of your "johnny one note" repetitions. But I give you credit for persistence. In truth, it's all you have so far, so you'd better stick with it. So, one year or six years, does it really matter? Just stay the course and eventually you'll be able to claim victory.

It has always been not a question of "if" but of "when". The time is now from all the indicators I am seeing. Bottoms up. Drinking will keep us sober as our wealth gets destroyed in the quake.

There has never been one fiat currency in history that has not bankrupt it's country.

Will it be mad max or a dystopian state? Probably the latter unless we go back to a commodity based currency.

indigenous says

There has never been one fiat currency in history that has not bankrupt it's country.

You mean, except for every currency currently in use?

sbh says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

The time is now

Yeah, OK, but you've hung your hat on "now" again. If it doesn't happen now you'll just go back to saying "wait some more". It's not that I/we think you're totally full of shit (there are plenty of things to be worried about), but you'll take ANYTHING as the sign of the beast. You can see how it gets old and tired.

Sure, but now is now. Expect a 500-800 drop in the DJIA this week. If I had any stocks left to sell I would use my right to sell. 100% cash baby and loving it. Good luck to you and your foolish ways.

sbh says

If foolishness were my only failing I'd be too rich to have time to mess about with the likes of you! But, nevertheless, if we don't lose a net 500-800 Dow points next week you'll be put down as a bounder and a scofflaw. Considering my hedges, I win either way.

A drop of 500-800 is the best case scenario. That drop comes with the expectations that the Fed will have to hold an emergency meeting to say they are not only backing away from the taper, but are adding 10B+ a month for the indefinite future. Screw it, it is only money they wills say. As long as the Chinese keep buying our faux bonds things are great. P.S. don't scare the Chinese, they think we are the best thing since sliced bread.

The hills have eyes.

RentingForHalfTheCost says

A drop of 500-800 is the best case scenario.

We can only hope..............another buying opportunity. Guys like Buffet thrive on these gifts in the market.

RentingForHalfTheCost says

As long as the Chinese keep buying our faux bonds things are great. P.S. don't scare the Chinese, they think we are the best thing since sliced bread.

The Chinese announced that late last year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2013/10/06/what-if-china-stops-buying-u-s-government-debt/

I watch the Resident Evil series, which also helps with physical preparedness: thanks to the scenes with Milla Jojovich I now have a right forearm like a steel 4x4, and a grip that can crush a shot put into powder.

Also, don't neglect amateur surgical skills, whether it's stapling your own leg back on, or popping an eyeball back in after it has been sucked out by a zombie:

Emergency War Surgery

Cabron Del Hydro says

I watch the Resident Evil series, which also helps with physical preparedness: thanks to the scenes with Milla Jokovich I now have a right forearm like a steel 4x4, and a grip that can crush a shot put into powder.

Also, don't neglect amateur surgical skills, whether it's stapling your own leg back on, or popping an eyeball back in after it has been sucked out by a zombie:

Emergency War Surgery

Tip of the day.

Got a gangrenous wound? Maggots are your friend!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1024_031024_maggotmedicine.html

I've seen this firsthand "in the wild" so to speak. Its not for the faint of heart.

Not sure how effective they are on zombie bites but really, what do you have to lose by trying.

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, January 24, 2014 __ Level is 108.1

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

jazz music says

Clearly Reagan's administration accomplished a lot but not for the people. He presided over a hostile occupying force that arose to "starve the beast" gifting taxpayer money to business: the code word for that is "stimulus" and anything for the infrastructure and the people "socialism." He represented the most unpatriotic of forces imaginable which we still have trouble unseating from power.

Its simple.. your side failed and has failed miserable via Govt programs
that became too big and way out of control. You might poke fun at him today, but lets face it.. you havent had any kind of Economic policy to call your own since Kennedy. Think about it... what is your Economic policy today ? Obama ? Hilary ? There isnt one...

finehoe says

Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt.

you forgot to mention, added 20 Million new Jobs which in turn allowed Federal Tax Revenues to increase... so your rant over borrowing is useless.

New Renter says

Got a gangrenous wound? Maggots are your friend!

Well, in comparison to infusing raw garlic, on an open wound, I'd take the maggots.

I only saw Mad Max. It taught me that they will still have lots of anabolic steroids after the cannibal anarchy apocalypse, but not much gas.

That won't stop anybody from driving gas guzzlers like fiends, I guess it's in the DNA.

Ceffer says

I only saw Mad Max. It taught me that they will still have lots of anabolic steroids after the cannibal anarchy apocalypse, but not much gas.

Yes: Even in the post-apocalyptic desert wasteland, there are fully-equipped weight rooms in which the nomadic biker gangs lift for 4-5 hours each day. You don't see them in the film because they're just over the horizon.

They need the gas to drive from gym to gym - they make time for fitness even in the face of the daily timesink of raping, pillaging, and disciplining wayward lieutenants in assless chaps.

Ceffer says

I only saw Mad Max. It taught me that they will still have lots of anabolic steroids after the cannibal anarchy apocalypse, but not much gas.

That won't stop anybody from driving gas guzzlers like fiends, I guess it's in the DNA.

And lots of assless chaps. Dan's already stocked up!

I'm thinking more like 1984 or Brave New World.

What did I learn not much, I guess if you want to blend in you will need Soma or expatriate.

New Renter says

Not sure how effective they are on zombie bites but really, what do you have to lose by trying.

Then you've got yourself a zombie maggot. Not too many things worse than a zombie maggot.

Ceffer says

New Renter says

Not sure how effective they are on zombie bites but really, what do you have to lose by trying.

Then you've got yourself a zombie maggot. Not too many things worse than a zombie maggot.

Maggot - feeds on human flesh

Zombie maggot - feeds on human flesh

What's the difference?

Regular maggots only eat necrotic i.e. dead flesh, they would like the zombies.

That's why they are good for wounds, they debride infected, dead tissue, but do not touch living tissue.

Maggot zombies eat living flesh, just like the regular zombies!

The great northwest is the first area of the world where the various races of the world have harmoniously integrated into one species, Albino.

Ceffer says

Regular maggots only eat necrotic i.e. dead flesh, they would like the zombies.

That's why they are good for wounds, they debride infected, dead tissue, but do not touch living tissue.

Maggot zombies eat living flesh, just like the regular zombies!

Sounds like a good plot for "Walking Dead"

Ceffer says

I only saw Mad Max. It taught me that they will still have lots of anabolic steroids after the cannibal anarchy apocalypse, but not much gas.

That won't stop anybody from driving gas guzzlers like fiends, I guess it's in the DNA.

na... thats from radiation .. the "muscle growth" is actual advanced cancer growth.

Haven't seen The Road, should I?

I *LOVE* LOVE love some of the action in WWZ.

Like the zombies piling their bodies up to get over the Israeli wall, and then invading at horrifying speed.

Gripping. But....

Everything Wrong with World War Z in 6 minutes or less
http://youtu.be/tss--a2XxMY

Vicente says

Haven't seen The Road, should I?

Too slow, I couldn't get through it.

The day the fish came out followed by Dr. Strangelove. I love happy endings.

mell says

This is absolutely unsustainable, but I am unclear about the timeline, housing could go into a quick downturn from here or it could take another couple of years, but the fat gains since 2008 are over. Some short hedges in REITs and the financial sector are in order for the prudent.

You said it.

Analyzer says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

A drop of 500-800 is the best case scenario.

We can only hope..............another buying opportunity. Guys like Buffet thrive on these gifts in the market.

Watch out for the "trying to catch a falling knife" syndrome. There is going to be a lot of blood before healing in this market when it finally turns.

Carolyn C says

I plan on visiting Portland over the summer and stay for a few weeks.

Carolyn - in my (never to be humble) opinion, that is a MISTAKE. Go visit it at it's worst, try December, January or Feburary. Going during the summer, especially as it heads towards August (mid-July thru mid-September) will give you a very inaccurate view of the weather there.

Mish already posted this HIMSELF on patnet 8 hours ago. I think that is quite enough.