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42756   Bigsby   2014 Feb 12, 12:16pm  

I was more into Public Enemy.

42757   indigenous   2014 Feb 12, 12:28pm  

It doesn't matter what I say you will not hear me...

42758   spydah_hh   2014 Feb 12, 1:50pm  

bgamall4 says

So that means the USA will not default on her debt? Tell me how that is bad?

17.3 trillion dollars and counting just how can it not go bad?

42759   Reality   2014 Feb 12, 3:33pm  

bgamall4 says

So that means the USA will not default on her debt? Tell me how that is bad?

Since you are so chipper, can I borrow some money in your name too? So you can pay that back later too. I will also spend the borrowed money to buy stuff that you want to buy, bidding prices up before you buy.

42760   Reality   2014 Feb 12, 3:36pm  

bgamall4 says

It hasn't so far, but the problem of the gap between rich and everyone else could put the debt in jeopardy.

Who do you think pays for the lobbists that channel how the borrowed money gets spent? Towards whom do you think they direct the money flow? Government spending is the leading cause of wealth disparity.

42761   elliemae   2014 Feb 12, 5:04pm  

If you order your Taco Bell Cannibal Tacos with Dorito Shells value meal "small" size, is it made with a midget?

42762   bob2356   2014 Feb 12, 5:33pm  

bgamall4 says

What is weird about it? God scrambled the languages because people united against him in a one world government.

You have now entered the twilight zone. Do not attempt to adjust your set.

42763   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Feb 12, 5:43pm  

sbh says

Is this the best you can come up with? Yawn

Dude, I am only 14 years old. It has been a blast messing with you guys. Most of my material comes from listing to my parent talk about buying a home in SFBA for the past 10 years. I see their confusion and witnessed first had how realtors have treated them over the years. We bought a house finally in 2006 only to lose it in 2010. My parents have more self esteem than most and once they couldn't make the payment cause my Dad lost his job, we went to renting. They could have swatted for years, but they grew up better than most of the idiots around here. It seems like the SFBA is made up of people with little integrity and I see the same on these boards. A bunch of ambulance chasers trying to make money off the hardships of others. If I was king, I'd beat them with their own arms.

42764   tts   2014 Feb 12, 9:30pm  

mmmarvel says

The are consequences for every decision and not chosing is a decision within and of itself.

Your response doesn't even make any sense in the context of my original post you quoted there. I'm not even vaguely kinda sorta arguing against individual responsibility!

The awful truth is in a busted economy you can work your butt off and go nowhere. And a busted economy is what we have now and have had for quite a while really. Luck will play a greater role than most any amount of hard work you could possibly do in a busted economy. Certainly more than you're willing to admit I bet.

That is why those charts showing productivity increasing while wages stagnate are so important. Proof positive that working harder and "taking responsibility" are anything but economic cure alls:

That is a national average BTW. There is nowhere to move to in the US that allows you to avoid the reality that chart shows.

mmmarvel says

Is it that they got involved in drugs or alcohol?

I love how you insinuate all the people who've been beat down economically or are underemployed in low paying crap jobs are somehow at fault or just watch TV all day or drunk/high or too stupid to figure out somehow they should go to college and get a degree.

Its like you're totally in denial of the recession/non-recovery that has persisted since 2008 and its effects on society and just want to blame the victim due to their supposed moral failings.
mmmarvel says

Unless you are handicap in some way.

You can be totally mentally and physically fit and still end up poor if your economy is busted. Much if not most of the world's population is mentally and physically fit but still poor as all hell because they live in 3rd World hell hole countries.

And in the US the middle class just keeps on shrinking, just like it has for the last few decades, and more and more people end up poor or in poverty. Trends like that have nothing to do with any sort of supposed moral failings and they cannot be corrected with hard work or any sort of individual responsibility.

42765   tts   2014 Feb 12, 9:32pm  

dublin hillz says

These advantages have always been around

Its not that they've been around forever, its that they're just about the only way to get ahead or even just a decent job at all now days.

We're halfway there to becoming one of those societies that practices blatant nepotism already.

42766   spydah_hh   2014 Feb 12, 9:37pm  

bgamall4 says

spydah_hh says

bgamall4 says

So that means the USA will not default on her debt? Tell me how that is bad?

17.3 trillion dollars and counting just how can it not go bad?

It hasn't so far, but the problem of the gap between rich and everyone else could put the debt in jeopardy.

The gap between rich and poor is contributed by that 17.3 trillion. However, it will go bad not so much because of the gap of the rich and poor but because of bad policies made by the government.

42767   Bigsby   2014 Feb 12, 9:49pm  

You didn't answer my questions. Are you embarrassed by your beliefs?

1. Do you think that is why people speak different languages?
2. Do you think the earth is 6000 years old or thereabouts?
3. Do you think Noah built a boat and put all the world's animals on it?

42768   Bigsby   2014 Feb 12, 10:13pm  

bgamall4 says

And the bank to the central banks is called the tower of Basel.

Dun, Dun, duhhhhhhh. It's a tower. In Basel. What that has to do with your biblical splutterings is anyone's guess, or are you perhaps laughably conflating Babel and Basel?

42769   Bigsby   2014 Feb 12, 10:20pm  

Did Noah build a boat that held all the world's animals?

bgamall4 says

Astronomers have observed that about every 30 years a star dies and explodes into a supernova (ICR September, 1998). So there should be hundreds of millions of supernovas. In fact, there are far less than hundreds of millions of supernovas. I say there were more supernovas in the beginning.

Putting aside that bit of utterly garbled reasoning, you actually think the earth is 6000 years old. Oh, dear.

You didn't answer the first question.

42770   Bigsby   2014 Feb 12, 10:23pm  

bgamall4 says

You can't argue the supernova phenomenon. There simply aren't enough of them to prove an old earth.

You'll have to elaborate on that particular train of thought. I can't wait.

You still haven't answered question one.

42771   Bigsby   2014 Feb 12, 10:32pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

You'll have to elaborate on that particular train of thought. I can't wait.

You still haven't answered question one.

Yes I have. I believe the Tower of Babel account. I don't need to elaborate on the fact that there aren't enough supernovae to prove an old earth.

And what exactly demonstrates that the earth is 6000 years old?

And you are seriously saying that you believe that people speak different languages because a small group of people built a tower a few thousand years ago?

I guess that's all pretty representative of the kind of 'proof' you require to convince yourself of your conspiracy theories.

42772   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Feb 12, 10:34pm  

All RED today except for Gold and Uranium. Just the way I predicted it would be. Get used to this pattern or die!

42773   elliemae   2014 Feb 12, 11:39pm  

Thanks, AF. Now I need help understanding a "glute-free" diet.

42774   MAGA   2014 Feb 12, 11:43pm  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbacoa

You ever have Barbacoa? It's pretty popular here in San Antonio. Meat from a cows head. :-/

http://tejasbarbacoa.com/

42775   indigenous   2014 Feb 12, 11:59pm  

bgamall4 says

In that I agree with you. Our national leaders will either capitulate to disaster or they will stop the speculation. They stopped the speculation in the 1930's and they can do it again if their backs are against the wall.

What?

42776   Bigsby   2014 Feb 12, 11:59pm  

bgamall4 says

With not enough supernovae, what demonstrates that the earth is 4.5 billion years old? That is an insurmountable fact.

How about an absolute mountain of testable predictions and empirical evidence? What do you have for your 6000 year argument? A book written by a handful of individuals thousands of years after the supposed creation event. Hmmm...

bgamall4 says

Who are you to argue against God?

Someone with science on my side. And arguing against God has nothing to do with it. You can believe in God and still understand that the bible was written by PEOPLE, scientifically clueless people, and that much of what was written was clearly and obviously made up.

42777   tatupu70   2014 Feb 13, 12:00am  

bgamall4 says

It is a known fact that a couple of trillion dollars went missing at the
Pentagon, and that a Zionist was in charge of the books. Google it.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Missing_Trillions

It's a known fact that you are a misleading, deceiptful Christian. Does your God not care about lying?

42778   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 12:00am  

bgamall4 says

Kind of makes Zionism look like the most stupid political movement on the face of the earth, doesn't it, Bugsy?

What does?

42779   Eman   2014 Feb 13, 12:22am  

RentingForHalfTheCost says

All RED today except for Gold and Uranium. Just the way I predicted it would be. Get used to this pattern or die!

I just woke up, turned on the TV, and saw all green. Did you make the wrong bet and lose money again?

42780   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Feb 13, 12:53am  

E-man says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

All RED today except for Gold and Uranium. Just the way I predicted it would be. Get used to this pattern or die!

I just woke up, turned on the TV, and saw all green. Did you make the wrong bet and lose money again?

RED baby. Maybe your TV needs adjustment. It happens on old picture tubes.

42781   bob2356   2014 Feb 13, 1:24am  

bgamall4 says

You can't argue the supernova phenomenon.

Actually you can, since it's a bunch of bullshit.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/snrfab.html

42782   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 1:52am  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Do you believe everything in the bible

Inspired word of God. Paul said manstealing was a sin. He also had a Christian slave obey the law of the land. That does not mean Paul condoned slavery.

(Ephesians 6:5 NLT) Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

(1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT) Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.

Clear condemnation right there. Or not.

42783   corntrollio   2014 Feb 13, 1:55am  

Reality says

Boomers buying a median house in 1980 would have paid 15% interest that cost nearly 3x then median income. That's a much higher percentage of median income than the current 4% interest on a house that is nearly 4x median income. 15% mortgage on a $150k (3x median income) house would be like $2000/mo

The math is correct (probably about $1900/mo), but the median house in 1980 was probably more like $65-70K, not $150K.

dodgerfanjohn says

Per Cato institute study in 2011, 80% of US millionaires are self made and did not in fact inherit the money.

But doesn't "millionaires" including housing equity? Of course a large number of people with $1 million are self-made. Bump up the number to even $3-5 million, and you might have a different answer.

42784   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 2:05am  

bob2356 says

bgamall4 says

You can't argue the supernova phenomenon.

Actually you can, since it's a bunch of bullshit.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/snrfab.html

And Gary shuffles off to the drawing board...

42785   FunTime   2014 Feb 13, 2:57am  

corntrollio says

But doesn't "millionaires" including housing equity?

Some data show both with and without because it's so significant. House equity is the only reason a lot of people have a net worth.

42786   FunTime   2014 Feb 13, 3:19am  

Call it Crazy says

Or have a "negative" net worth..... YMMV...

exactly, most don't even have a net worth. They have debt.

42787   FunTime   2014 Feb 13, 3:20am  

They have debt but they own a house. Greatest sales job of our time.
All time?

42788   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 4:05am  

Good grief Gary, who do you think knows more about the topic, you or the scientists who work in the field?

42789   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 4:25am  

You are arguing the earth is 6000 years old. They're arguing whether the universe is 10/15/20 BILLION years old. You have no point except an utterly incorrect one.

42790   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 4:56am  

You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Your arrogance beggars belief. Here you are pontificating as if you think you know what you are talking about. You haven't the foggiest. The leading scientists in the field completely and utterly refute the nonsense you are spouting, and yet you carry on with this drivel. Utterly laughable.

42791   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 5:06am  

Complete and utter drivel. And by the way, didn't you say the earth was only 6000 years old? You seem to have just added 24000 years. Whoops.

42792   Tenpoundbass   2014 Feb 13, 5:40am  

Can I wear the hat?

42793   FortWayne   2014 Feb 13, 5:47am  

CaptainShuddup says

Can I wear the hat?

No, that'll still get you in trouble with the law around here.

42794   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 13, 10:10am  

I like the part about how his nephew's student loan payment was higher than his own morgtage.

42795   Bigsby   2014 Feb 13, 10:56am  

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

You are lost to all rational thought.

Yet you continue to respond to his post??? Why??

Because I find him amusing. Unlike you.

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