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44763   Dan8267   2014 Apr 1, 7:33am  

hrhjuliet says

Good point. It could easily be free and paid for by advertising.

It is advertising. Sellers should simply pay $1 to list their property on the single listing and that would be more than enough to support the effort of listing all properties for sale in the world. Computers do all the damn work anyway.

44764   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 7:35am  

You have all at least come to realize that the people in power at present are sociopaths, and that most have borderline personality disorder? I hope you see no matter how often we discuss the right the rich have to their money, we very seldom discuss the type of personality that while living in gluttony and in opulence willingly make choices that cause other humans to starve or suffer.

For example; I do believe as a supposed free society we can not always force a corporation to do right, but the fact remains that someone in those corporations is calling the shots and knows that there are children making their merchandise, that their chemicals are killing and polluting. To save money, they willingly allow the abuse of another human being in a corrupt nation and they allow and support slavery. There is no difference between Dahmer or the afore mentioned criminal real estate agents and the corporations that profit from pollution, slavery or indentured children.

The only difference is us.

We the public and society that validates their "it's only business" plea bargain daily are allowing sociopaths to commit crimes and then live in splendor. We have allowed sick people to indoctrinate us into their twisted world were money and things mean more than other human beings. It is the slave mentality, and we are not only part of the story, but a player in the problem by our daily validation of atrocities, and are unwillingness to give up our addiction to materialism.

Our cheap goods mean more to us than the lives of our fellow man. In that, we are reduced to being the pawns of sociopaths. We are truly part of the problem, and the sooner we face it, the sooner we can end the nightmare.

44765   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 7:37am  

Dan8267 says

hrhjuliet says

Good point. It could easily be free and paid for by advertising.

It is advertising. Sellers should simply pay $1 to list their property on the single listing and that would be more than enough to support the effort of listing all properties for sale in the world. Computers do all the damn work anyway.

You are correct and have clearly thought about this. Any chance you could create a site?

44766   Dan8267   2014 Apr 1, 7:49am  

hrhjuliet says

You have all at least come to realize that the people in power at present are sociopaths

That's why we have walls.

The Sirius Cybernetics Corporation is the primary manufacturer and supplier of androids, robots and autonomic assistants for the known universe. They are known for their catchy jingles and catchphrases, supplied by their Marketing Department.

They are not, however, known for the quality of their products.

The Hitchhiker's Travel Guide describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as:

"A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes."

Curiously, an edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica which conveniently fell through a rift in the time-space continuum from 1000 years in the future describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as:

"A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."

hrhjuliet says

You are correct and have clearly thought about this. Any chance you could create a site?

Easily. That's not the problem. The hard part is getting the masses to have the political will to advertise at this site. Of course, once you have a mere 25% of all listings, the rest will follow like lemmings. But getting the first 5% is nearly impossible because who wants to sign up until you are already successful?

44767   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 7:53am  

Oh dear, I agree with everything you wrote. I am often afraid our chances to revolt have passed. This is why I feel the ultimate rebellion is in not buying their junk, and certainly not buying the lies. It's hard for Americans to have will power and restraint, but it is our last real weapon. What we buy has immense power, and what we choose to not watch or listen to also has power.

Actually, you brought up my way of letting it all go for a moment; music. Music is my escape, and choreography is my meditation, and often my safe form of rebellion.

44769   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 7:58am  

Hmmm, then we need to figure out a way to make the project initially successful. There must be an avenue to that.

44770   corntrollio   2014 Apr 1, 8:02am  

Call it Crazy says

It is true that people get run over by cars travelling in reverse all the time. But the number of people so-killed is small; 15 or so a year

That number is BS.

Actual number is over 200, many of which are young children, but some of them are geezers too, and the number of injuries per year is about 15,000:

This mandate was driven by the fact that an average of 210 people are killed each year in the United States by ‘backover crashes’ in addition to causing an average of 15,000 injuries. Even worse, nearly a third of the fatalities are young children under the age of five. On the opposite end of the age spectrum, approximately one fourth of the fatalities are older adults at least 70 years of age.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/new-cars-required-rear-view-cameras-2018/

44771   corntrollio   2014 Apr 1, 8:07am  

Call it Crazy says

Nice link to the data....

Yeah, I hit ctrl-V, but it didn't paste the first time, it's there now. My bad. But there's no reason for you to be a dick about it.

44772   corntrollio   2014 Apr 1, 8:09am  

This CNBC article goes through great pains to use the word "allocated." Presumably that means it's not the same as the amount spent. I'd be more interested in the latter.

Agree that Cash for Clunkers and that almost any tax credit towards housing buys is likely not going to be cost effective, but I'm not sure how those are related.

44773   Strategist   2014 Apr 1, 8:21am  

corntrollio says

This CNBC article goes through great pains to use the word "allocated." Presumably that means it's not the same as the amount spent. I'd be more interested in the latter.

He is right Call Crazy.
Oregon has an allocation of $303 million. You could, after the first person enrollls, say that the average cost per enrollee is $303 million.

44774   corntrollio   2014 Apr 1, 8:31am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

USPS? Every time I turn on the TV or web, there's some howling psychopath demanding it be disbanded and its pensions looted.

That's despite the fact that our postal workforce has shrunk greatly in the last several years, and the service has reduced costs in other ways by eliminating high costs services, which does mean fewer blue boxes and that people in remote areas must work harder to get their mail sometimes.

People are also uninformed. It's fucking cheap to send letters and packages in the US compared to many other developed countries, and the US is a hell of a lot bigger than many of those.

44775   Dan8267   2014 Apr 1, 8:35am  

hrhjuliet says

Hmmm, then we need to figure out a way to make the project initially successful. There must be an avenue to that.

It's essentially the same problem with any Internet endeavor. Everyone is on Facebook because everyone else is on Facebook. Everyone uses Skype because everyone else has a Skype account.

44776   Dan8267   2014 Apr 1, 9:08am  

Call it Crazy says

What Happens When "The Workers" Just Don't Care Anymore?

They start posting on Patrick.net.

44777   Dan8267   2014 Apr 1, 9:11am  

Call it Crazy says

Maybe the fact that 70 million Americans are on mind-altering drugs has something to do with it.

150 million Americans are on mind-altering drugs. The majority of adult Americans drink alcoholic beverages. Alcohol is a mind-altering drug. That's the whole point of it. It tastes like shit, so the only reason to drink it is to alter your mind.

44778   Dan8267   2014 Apr 1, 9:13am  

Call it Crazy says

The level of sloth, laziness and apathy that we are witnessing in this country is absolutely mind-numbing.

The grunt worker knows the system is rigged and no matter how much he wealth he produces, he won't get ahead. What did you expect to happen?

Capitalism rewards only one thing: bargaining power. It does not reward wealth production. If you want to be rich, don't do anything productive. Get real good at playing zero-sum games, especially with other people's money. That's the way America works, so why should Americans actually do work?

44779   corntrollio   2014 Apr 1, 10:55am  

sbh says

So true. I proclaim that I'm a genius and am always right. Here's the supporting link:

http://patrick.net/?p=1240706&c=1070532#comment-1070532

Yeah, a link can be a piece of shit too. The one Call it Crazy sent didn't even pass the sniff test. I doubt the price is even $135 per too, and ignoring injuries is also silly, in addition to ancillary effects. I believe the estimate I read somewhere for cars that already have an LCD screen (a huge number these days because even the infotainment is now basically a big LCD), the price is about $45/car, but even that sounds high since it's basically a shitty weather-sealed webcam hooked up to your reverse switch (convenient since your white backup lights already are hooked up). Even subcompacts/compacts I've rented lately have an LCD already.

In any case, when it comes to auto regulation, it's not just about what the government wants qua the government. It's also about what insurance company lobbyists want. The insurance companies are the ones that have been driving a lot of the crash test regulations, just as one example.

Note that Honda was already looking to get this almost in every model by MY 2013 -- something like 94% of their cars and 100% of their SUVs/Ridgeline.

44780   Vicente   2014 Apr 1, 10:56am  

sbh says

I proclaim that I'm a genius and am always right.

You're doing it wrong.

44781   Automan Empire   2014 Apr 1, 11:27am  

corntrollio says

I doubt the price is even $135 per too, and ignoring injuries is also silly, in
addition to ancillary effects. I believe the estimate I read somewhere for cars
that already have an LCD screen (a huge number these days because even the
infotainment is now basically a big LCD), the price is about $45/car,

This. TFT displays and cameras are almost cheap as sand now; a standalone entry level system could be cobbled together for less than dinner for two at Golden Corral. Most cars have a large display already, as well as being CAN equipped. Adding in a rear camera amounts to stubbing out a connector from the existing rear electronic module, and adding a few lines of software to a few modules.

That said, I think the effectiveness of the cameras will be offset by the side effects of people losing the habit of looking over their shoulders while backing, ever.

44782   curious2   2014 Apr 1, 12:11pm  

How many of those suicides were caused by the toxic SSRI placebos that they had been prescribed as part of their existing "benefits," and which have been shown to double the risk of suicidality? Veterans can face a number of risks; diet and exercise help a lot, but legislative "benefits" accrue mainly to lobbyists, especially PhRMA.

44783   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 12:33pm  

Dallas is nice, not as nice as Houston or Austin, but it's very clean and friendly.

44784   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 12:35pm  

Makes sense, but somehow Facebook got everyone to leave MySpace, and now all my students live on Instagram. The question is how did they do it?

44785   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 12:48pm  

Really, with the tools we have today, as long as you have a lawyer and a title company, and MLS listings can be viewed by sellers and utilized by buyers, why bother paying a real estate agent more than most people make in a year to do practically nothing.

Sellers can use: http://www.homeownersrealty.com/system/login.aspx?redir=&msg=You+must+have+paid+access+to+use+this+feature.
There are other sites like this.

Buyers can simply use Zillow. Things come up there just as quickly as they do on my cousin's, who is a real estate agent, automated listing program.

So why on earth would you use a real estate agent? For what?

44786   Tenpoundbass   2014 Apr 1, 1:15pm  

They should stop eating cheese burgers and get out and run.
Shop at wholefoods, and get out and volunteer in the community.
They wouldn't have these problems if they rode a bicycle.

44787   Tenpoundbass   2014 Apr 1, 1:19pm  

If it needs a cartoon to explain it, then it's a fuck over fuck job.
The Assholes only retort to criticim is always a chart minus any data to prove the graph, and when that is put to scrutiny, we're given a Cartoon calling us Stupid.

Thanks for helping me see the Error of my ways, that Cartoon really cleared things up. You guys are more Nutz than I ever realized.

44788   anonymous   2014 Apr 1, 1:27pm  

jazz music says

curious2 says

How many of those suicides were caused by

What is your point?

1. GOP cuts benefits to vets so that less suicides would occur?

2. Less access to medicine results in healthier vets?

3. What?

Less access to western medicine often does result in better health. That crap will kill you

44789   hrhjuliet   2014 Apr 1, 2:10pm  

Heck yeah it is. I could sell my place here and live like a Queen there.

44790   Wildebeest   2014 Apr 1, 2:12pm  

Kinda sad that only UK news outlets are reporting on the validity of the numbers.

We are living in bizarro world.

44791   Wildebeest   2014 Apr 1, 2:44pm  

Who cares what it costs when you can get a 0 down loan with no PMI ;-)

https://www.nasafcu.com/mortgagecenter/

44792   bg   2014 Apr 1, 3:10pm  

Is there any indication that these properties are actually producing the anticipated income for the institutional investors?

I agree that so long as the return is seen, they might start buying again if prices fall.

I guess that might have something to do with what happens with organic buyers. Would investors swoop back and run prices up again if they were the only ones in the market?

44793   marcus   2014 Apr 1, 3:29pm  

jazz music says

1,900 veterans have committed suicide since January 1, 2014

Really ? That's hard to believe ? Awfully tragic if true.

HAve we had a 3 month period since 2001, when that many of our troops died Iraq and Afghanistan combined ?

44794   elliemae   2014 Apr 1, 4:34pm  

HeadSet says

ALL A REALTOR DOES IS FIND A BUYER

Not really. All a realtor does is sign a contract, then wait for buyers to come along. All a buyer's agent does is hope someone comes along that wants to buy a house.

Realtors are obsolete. Just like those people who go to H&R Block, Jackson Hewitt, etc. for their taxes to be done. Sheeple obviously don't realize that the person who is doing their taxes is a seasonal worker with little or no tax experience who plugs information into a computer program and tells you the same info that the tax programs provide for free.

There's a sucker born every minute.

44795   justme   2014 Apr 1, 6:17pm  

Wait a minute: 850k previously uninsured have joined and paid. But how many of the 7.1M were previously uninsured, and just haven't paid yet?

The numbers given do not provide a complete picyure of what is going on.

44796   JG1   2014 Apr 1, 6:52pm  

Tried to use entitle direct on two refis - both times they were cheaper than anyone else. One lender allowed it, the other "mortgage banker" did not. Shittibank (ticker symbol C) allowed it. Even shittier American Interbanc refused, citing ED's self-insured status. (The article implies they are insured by Lloyd's, but I don't believe that is true wrt Entitle Direct - maybe it is for one or more of their competitors.)

44797   American in Japan   2014 Apr 1, 9:43pm  

Go go FSBO!

44798   HeadSet   2014 Apr 1, 10:57pm  

elliemae says

Not really. All a realtor does is sign a contract, then wait for buyers to come along. All a buyer's agent does is hope someone comes along that wants to buy a house.

What you wrote are attributes of a seller's agent. A buyer's agent works with people wanting to purchase homes, by presenting listings and driving clients to properties.

What I would like to see happen is that sellers pay a flat fee to list, and those buyers that feel they need an agent pay for the agent themselves.

44799   Blurtman   2014 Apr 1, 11:53pm  

Slam dunk!

Bush Gives Medal of Freedom to 'Pivotal' Iraq Figures

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63623-2004Dec14.html

44800   Blurtman   2014 Apr 1, 11:54pm  

CaptainShuddup says

They should stop eating cheese burgers and get out and run.

Shop at wholefoods, and get out and volunteer in the community.

They wouldn't have these problems if they rode a bicycle.

That's hilarious, you jackass.

44801   bubblesitter   2014 Apr 1, 11:59pm  

American in Japan says

Go go FSBO!

Welcome back, AIJ.

44802   bob2356   2014 Apr 2, 12:37am  

Call it Crazy says

justme says

Wait a minute: 850k previously uninsured have joined and paid. But how many of the 7.1M were previously uninsured, and just haven't paid yet?

The numbers given do not provide a complete picyure of what is going on.

You tell US why they have been hiding that number??

One report I saw said that 25% were previously uninsured, so that would make roughly 1.7 million NEW insured...

So, 5.4 million previously had insurance that was cancelled and they just re-signed up on the Obamacare web site...

1.7 million is a long way off from the 30 Million to 40 Million Obama said would get insurance with his awesome program....

You miss the point entirely. Less than .3% of the population went from uninsured to insured, pretty much an insignificant number. So what was the point of this entire exercise? Hmmm. How many people are now having their premiums subsidized? Who are these people that are now getting subsidized health care insurance? Maybe they are in the lower income levels. Maybe they are democrats. Maybe they are voters. What? Politicians buying votes with taxpayer money. Shocking. Say it ain't so joe. I really don't see how anyone could have missed the fact that obamacare was first and foremost a vote buying scheme.

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