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Sounds like Sterling was set up. For crying out loud, the gold digger herself is half black. How racist and anti-black can he be if he has been sleeping with her for years, not even treating her as a whore but as a girlfriend? The old fart got jealous because she and her co-conspirators deliberately posted a bunch of pictures of her hanging out with well known studs that have a reputation for predatory behavior with young women, leading to comments by others about his manhood. Then she steered the conversation towards about blacks instead of about black "players". Players in the sense of predating on attractive women.
Of course she set him up. We are listening to this tape because she illegally recorded the conversation while calling him honey-this, honey that, in a very calm voice. The whole recording is utterly creepy . . . and you are calling me "sociopath"?? Do you not realize if not for her setting him up there wouldn't be this recording? She and her lawyer claims there are 100 hours of recording. This is obviously a very deliberately planned operation. The tape as presented does not have the beginning of the conversation. So she as the recorder obviously steered the conversation and presented us the segment.
Here is a more in-depth analysis:
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/04/donald-sterling-on-shakedown-street.html
What are you trying to say by "racist prick"? That he only fucks black girls? Because his most recent girlfriend, for many years, is black.
It is a well known fact that slave owners in the Antebellum South never fucked their chattel.
But owning a slave does not make one a racist, right?
There are over a million black people on this earth with a higher IQ than you. Sleep tight.
What are you trying to say by "racist prick"? That he only fucks black girls? Because his most recent girlfriend, for many years, is black.
It is a well known fact that slave owners in the Antebellum South never fucked their chattel.
But owning a slave does not make one a racist, right?
How many slave owners gave their chattels Feraris and Bentleys and $1.8M to buy her own house? Sterling obviously did not treat her as chattel but treated her as his girlfriend.
There are over a million black people on this earth with a higher IQ than you. Sleep tight.
Are you some kind of racist and think black people are stupid? There are over 900 million people in Africa alone. Even if I make the cut for top 1% in terms of IQ, there should be something like 9 million black people on this earth with a higher IQ than mine, not just 1 million.
Y
2014 Apr 28, 12:55pm
This is obvious to anyone listening without an agenda.
It was like she was reading from a script.
It did not even sound like a couples discussion, more like she was interrogating him on an endless loop hoping that he would wear down and make some offcolor remark, which he did being over 80 years old and unable to keep up with the constant pressure of questioning.
Of course she set him up. We are listening to this tape because she illegally recorded the conversation while calling him honey-this, honey that, in a very calm voice. The whole recording is utterly creepy . . . and you are calling me "sociopath"??
How many slave owners gave their chattels Feraris and Bentleys and $1.8M to buy her own house? Sterling obviously did not treat her as chattel but treated her as his girlfriend.
Zero, they didn't have to in order to fuck them. Let's not move the goalposts here and focus on your point first - your argument was he was not racist, and your support was because he chose to fuck her, and she was black. My counterpoint was it is not unheard of for known racists to fuck black people.
The economic situation under which the fucking occurred in completely irrelevant. That Sterling was prohibited from owning his fuck buddy, while a southern gentlemen 150 years ago was not, makes no matter. They both desired to fuck black women, and they are both racists.
Are you some kind of racist and think black people are stupid? There are over 900 million people in Africa alone. Even if I'm in the top 1% in terms of IQ, there should be something like 9 million black people on this earth with a higher IQ than mine, not just 1 million.
You've made the claim that your IQ is above 140. At minimum, this implies your alleged intelligence would be greater than 99.7% of the population. Assuming 1 billion black people on earth (not everyone in Africa is black, btw) the expected value of black people with IQ higher than yours would be about 3 million. I conservatively said more than 1 million owing to the possibility that your claim of IQ "Above 140" might be an additional half standard deviation higher.
New Renter
2014 Apr 28, 1:11pm
What are you trying to say by "racist prick"? That he only fucks black girls? Because his most recent girlfriend, for many years, is black.
Strom Thurmond had a daughter with a black woman while a teenager.
Was he a racist?
“There’s not enough troops in the army to force the southern people to break down segregation and admit the n—– race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes and into our churches.â€
Cleary not since he not only banged black women but actually fathered children with them!
Was he a democrat? yes but only until 1964 "because of his opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, disaffection with the liberalism of the national party, and his support for the conservatism and opposition to the Civil Rights bill of the Republican presidential candidate Senator Barry Goldwater."
Zero, they didn't have to in order to fuck them. Let's not move the goalposts here and focus on your point first - your argument was he was not racist, and your support was because he chose to fuck her, and she was black. My counterpoint was it is not unheard of for known racists to fuck black people.
No, you fucking retard! He is not a racist because his girlfriend of several years is half-black. We are not in pre-Civil War with slave ownerships, you retarded fucking asshole. Finding a girlfriend nowadays involves mutual consent. In case that's news to your stupid loser prick spent too much time in your own hand. Find me several current KKK members with black girlfriends before you make your stupid case.
The economic situation under which the fucking occurred in completely irrelevant. That Sterling was prohibited from owning his fuck buddy, while a southern gentlemen 150 years ago was not, makes no matter. They both desired to fuck black women, and they are both racists.
Are you really that retarded?? Many southern gentlemen 150 years ago were not racists by the standards of their own era, even if they owned slaves. Many slave owners freed their slaves voluntarily. That's much more self-sacrifice to elevate the black men and women than you stupid fucking muppet moving your fingers on a keyboard yammering about racism.
You've made the claim that your IQ is above 140. At minimum, this implies your alleged intelligence would be greater than 99.7% of the population. Assuming 1 billion black people on earth (not everyone in Africa is black, btw) the expected value of black people with IQ higher than yours would be about 3 million. I conservatively said more than 1 million owing to the possibility that your claim of IQ "Above 140" might be an additional half standard deviation higher.
All I knew was that my IQ test score came out to be 140+. I did not pay attention to where that put me in percentage terms. I have my doubts regarding the statistical claim because the vast majority of the populations of the world, with population concentrations on both ends of the spectrum, have never been tested.
No, you fucking retard!
you retarded fucking asshole.
Are you really that retarded??
you stupid fucking muppet
Keep crying. Its funny.
Many southern gentlemen 150 years ago were not racists by the standards of their own era, even if they owned slaves.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
Are you honestly claiming that someone who believed he has the right to own another human being solely due to their race is not racist? How many white slaves were there in the antebellum south again?
You know, owing to my general policy of avoiding arguments with hopeless chumps, I'm a little surprised here. Go ahead, call me a retard again. Your case is so strong without them, but given that AND the verbal abuse, I am shaking in my boots about what you might say next.
I am about to meet my master, I'm sure.
Are you honestly claiming that someone who believed he has the right to own another human being solely due to their race is not racist? How many white slaves were there in the antebellum south again?
Slavery in the south had both black and white slaves. There were also black freemen. The deciding factor was not race but whether the parents were slaves; although by the mid-19th century most white slaves had either redeemed their own freedom or had been redeemed by the church and civic organizations, excepting perhaps debt slaves and criminals for limited duration. By the time before the Civil War, slave owners had not imported any new slaves from Africa in their own life time. All slaves were inherited from the owners' parents, just like we inherit pets today. Before the end of Civil War, slaves were considered private property, as decided in the Dred-Scott Case by the SCOTUS.
My emphasis was on slave owners who freed slaves voluntarily. They were obviously racially progressive for their time. They were literally giving up the bulk of their own inheritance to elevate the black men and women that had been their parents' slaves. Would you muppets have done the same if you were in their shoes? Probably not. When was the last time you donated your new car or your house to the homeless?
Keep crying. Its funny.
In other words, you concede the absurdity of comparing modern life dating with mutual consent to pre-civil war legal slave-master relationships.
Are you some kind of racist and think black people are stupid?
Oh god, you're taking lessons from Captainshithead and Softdick: when cornered on your racism accuse the accuser of racism.
I have no idea whom you are talking about, but I learn from you, accusing others of being Neo-Nazi when you are in fact the fascist yourself.
No, no, no, you're demeaning the pricing power of a vagina (just ask your "sex partners" as opposed to your girl friends [since you cannot have girl friends] in their transactional relationship that passes for "friendship" with a sociopath):
In case you are not aware, today's girls in their 20's do not like the title of "girlfriend" in the relatively early stages of a relationship. That title somehow conveys the idea of exclusivity and ownership to them, and they prefer non-exclusive in the beginning of a relationship. They prefer "friends" or "fuck buddies" before the "girlfriend" stage is reached. I use the term "sex partner" for this forum because it's a more clear description (for all stages) for us the old generation.
there's no set up, it's merely the marketplace clearing the socio-economics of the two players.
What are you talking about? The taping was quite illegal. The whole case is the gold-digger / scamster committing fraud and blackmail.
He's a racist and she's disgusted and you're an apologist for his disgusting racism. Fucking negates racism and the pricing power of her vagina makes her a conspirator against his racism. You're an idiot and a weirdo.
You are an idiot and weirdo. Did he hire Jewish players to his team? No. Did he exclude black players to his team? No. What racism are you talking about? He even kept a half-black girlfriend for years.
Y
2014 Apr 28, 2:52pm
Race baiters win again....
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/04/the-race-baiters-and-v-stiviano-strike-gold.php
So an 80-year-old man with a much younger, mixed-race girlfriend is sexually insecure–go figure! He has a friend, a negative-image Iago, who plays on his insecurity and teases him when the mistress posts pictures with black men, however innocent they may be. So the old man asks her not to do it. She can spend all day with black men and even sleep with them, he says, just don’t post photos or attend Clippers games with them. But the young woman already has one foot out the door, and she illegally records her conversation with the old man, and then turns it over to two of the most disreputable gossip sites on the internet.
Y
2014 Apr 28, 2:56pm
As an aside, shouldn't front row seats at an NBA game produce something better than what we got here??
Y
2014 Apr 28, 3:00pm
It's "Asperger's", shit for brains....
You talk about your kid as "worshipful", as well. Fuck, dude, do you have Asbergers or what?
I use the term "sex partner" for this forum
You just get creepier and creepier: "forum", really?
Yes, the term is precise. What's your problem?
You talk about your kid as "worshipful", as well. Fuck, dude, do you have Asbergers or what?
Do you discrimiate against people with Asperger's?
It's as if we're listening to an AI program trying to mimic humanity.
Make up your mind. Asperger's or AI? You are sounding like talking out of your ass while having your head buried deep inside it.
Eewww, I need to go wash my hands.
You need to wash your head, after taking it out of your ass.
Have you perused the transcript of his statements about black people?
Those are his private conversations illegally taped. If everyone ever made a racially charged statement in private were to be ostracized, there wouldn't be many non-racist left; we can start with parents who have told their daughters not to date black, white, latino, asian, what-have-you out of their own groups.
In the transcript, we also have him clearly expressing no objection to his girlfriend sleeping around with black athletes, so long as that is carried on in private so he doesn't have to deal with unfavorable publicity. Sounds like a guy quite open-minded about sharing with blacks . . . not just in breaking bread together!
Slavery in the south had both black and white slaves.
I'm always amused at your creative versions of history. There were white indentured servants, not slaves. Indentured servants were working off the cost of their passage and/or their penal sentence for a fixed term. Slaves were owned as property in perpetuity. As a practical matter indentured servants were sometimes as badly treated as slaves and didn't have the terms of their indenture honored making them de facto slaves. The British did ship Irish prisoners as actual slaves to the West Indies in the mid 1600's, but not to the colonies.
My emphasis was on slave owners who freed slaves voluntarily. They were obviously racially progressive for their time. They were literally giving up the bulk of their own inheritance to elevate the black men and women that had been their parents' slaves
There were very, very few slave owners south of Maryland that freed their slaves voluntarily. The church and public opinion in the north was strongly against slavery. Most owners weren't racially progressive at all, just bowing pressure of opinion. Slavery in the north pretty much ended in the north by the 1820's. This wasn't hard since In the north there were very few slaves to start with, 1-2% of the population vs 30-35% in the south. They were hardly giving up their inheritance since the vast majority of slaves in the north were domestic servants.
This whole story is not worthy of being reported anywhere but tabloids, just like anything else that happens today in LA.
Y
2014 Apr 28, 10:53pm
Sorry, dildobreath, we are not accepting topic shifting at this time.
So tell us, what is an "Asberger"?? What did you really mean, 'Assburger'?
Yeah, that's it...you seem like the type to put a slab of somebodies shitmuscle on an bauguette and call it a panini...god don't you just love public Freudian slips...
It's "Asperger's", shit for brains....
You talk about your kid as "worshipful", as well. Fuck, dude, do you have Asbergers or what?
Hey asshole, good to hear from you. So you think this turd was punked by a Latina for hire as well, huh? Or do you recognize a male cunt when you see one?
tatupu70
2014 Apr 28, 11:07pm
Sorry, dildobreath, we are not accepting topic shifting at this time.
So tell us, what is an "Asberger"?? What did you really mean, 'Assburger'?
Glad you're not trying to shift the topic.
indigenous
2014 Apr 28, 11:39pm
I'm always amused at your creative versions of history. There were white indentured servants, not slaves. Indentured servants were working off the cost of their passage and/or their penal sentence for a fixed term.
Most slaves in history were white, taken by Islamic countries. The fact that the US slaves fell along race lines was the exception.
The indentured servants were usually forced into it because of debt. Not calling that slavery is a stretch.
The indentured servants were usually forced into it because of debt. Not calling that slavery is a stretch.
Going into debt or being imprisoned for committing a crime then signing an indenture agreement to pay it off isn't the same as being captured at gunpoint and hauled off in chains in my mind. If it makes your one dimensional ideological world work for you then go for it.
Most slaves in history were white, taken by Islamic countries. The fact that the US slaves fell along race lines was the exception.
The specific statement was that there were black and white slaves in the south. Which has nothing to do with arab slavers capturing white slaves. People were capturing slaves a long, long time before islam existed.
indigenous
2014 Apr 28, 11:59pm
Going into debt
then signing an indenture agreement to pay it off isn't the same as being captured at gunpoint and hauled off in chains in my mind.
Today in this country you do not go to prison and most likely you will not have to pay off the debt. If you are TBTF then they will even pay off your debt for you.
In comparison indentured servitude is more akin to slavery.
The specific statement was that there were black and white slaves in the south. Which has nothing to do with arab slavers capturing white slaves. People were capturing slaves a long, long time before islam existed.
The point is that slavery is not necessarily a racial idea.
FortWayne
2014 Apr 29, 1:06am
Sounds like Sterling was set up. For crying out loud, the gold digger herself is half black. How racist and anti-black can he be if he has been sleeping with her for years, not even treating her as a whore but as a girlfriend?...
Media doesn't care about facts, liberal media is trained well by Obama to jump and attack everyone at whom the big government finger is pointing at.
Y
2014 Apr 29, 2:21am
SingleBitchHoe,
No, I meant "bauguette".
You see, that way I generate feedback from you verifying that my original insult was received and detonated.
Kinda like an 'email read receipt'....
an bauguette
Bropappy, did you mean "a baguette"? You can't do anything right.
Y
2014 Apr 29, 2:37am
Just reread your own posts....that should satisfy you.
say something formless and stupid for me to read when I get back.
In comparison indentured servitude is more akin to slavery.
So you are saying (or maybe not, since you never actually make a definitive statement in any of your posts) is that you believe hunting people down and hauling them away in chains is the equivalent of signing a contract agreeing to work off your debt. Ok, sure, right.
The point is that slavery is not necessarily a racial idea.
Irrelevant, the topic of discussion was slavery in the south which was purely racial.
indigenous
2014 Apr 29, 2:52am
signing a contract agreeing to work off your debt.
I think it would have been more like sign this or you are going to debtors prison.
Irrelevant, the topic of discussion was slavery in the south which was purely racial.
I don't agree. In this case much of the steam of this subject comes from conflation.
My emphasis was on slave owners who freed slaves voluntarily. They were obviously racially progressive for their time. They were literally giving up the bulk of their own inheritance to elevate the black men and women that had been their parents' slaves.
Yeah, all three people who actually did that, awesome.
signing a contract agreeing to work off your debt.
I think it would have been more like sign this or you are going to debtors prison.
You've still got your head in the wrong end of the horse. To be a debtor one has to borrow money. So you are saying people who borrowed money of their own free will then had to live with the consequences (which they knew) are the same as people who were hunted down with guns and hauled away in chains. Explain the equivalence. Or try to explain without drifting off into some other irrelevancy.
Explain the equivalence.
Already did
Your definition of explain differs radically from anyone else's. I will say you have a true self delusional gift for saying a lot of nothing and believing you have made some type of point.
indigenous
2014 Apr 29, 4:08am
Your definition of explain differs radically from anyone else's. I will say you have a true self delusional gift for saying a lot of nothing and believing you have made some type of point
In other words you are not hearing what I'm saying, ok.
Looks like sterling just got a lifetime ban and a 2.5 million fine. He's probably gonna be dead within 12 months of the "discipline" like joe paterno.
For an NBA owner to say the things that he has said requires a certain level of self loathing that not even a goth rock musician can match....
Y
2014 Apr 29, 4:42am
Got the racist.
Now time to witchhunt the wench for illegal recording.
Recording in private
Even the most well-known public figures have a reasonable expectation of privacy when they speak in their homes or other private retreats. Accordingly, courts and the government have made it illegal for information gatherers and others to engage in any of the following activities (Always keep in mind, however, that these prohibitions may not apply to law enforcement and other government officials):
bugging a room, secretly monitoring telephone conversations (to which the recording subject is not a party) or intercepting computer communications (publishers may, however, disseminate illegally taped conversations if they are of great public interest and the publisher broke no law in acquiring them);
hacking into telephone systems to acquire previously recorded conversations; and
acquiring a person’s phone records from a phone company by posing as someone authorized to see the records.
Looks like sterling just got a lifetime ban and a 2.5 million fine. He's probably gonna be dead within 12 months of the "discipline" like joe paterno.
Y
2014 Apr 29, 6:07am
We are all descendants of monkeys, ShopBitchHoe....
Stop denying your heritage..
Just reread your own posts....that should satisfy you.
say something formless and stupid for me to read when I get back.
Both formless and stupid. The monkeys did well.
Y
2014 Apr 29, 6:09am
So how was your workout?
Hopefully you gave your hand the full 30 second recovery between sets...
I'm off to the gym for a couple hours,
Tenpoundbass
2014 Apr 29, 6:18am
I'm fine with what he said... BUT!!!!!
He can't say that shit and be in the business he's in.
Which is why I don't think he really is racist. He never once, used the "N" word. I think what he said to her, had less to do with what he thinks about black, or Magic as a person. As it was his choice of words he used, trying to "CONTROL" her and her actions.
THAT being said...
It's out there, and being the business that he's in. He's got to go. Less he want's to be the guy who owns a team with no where to play, no teams to play, or any one on his team, and all of his fans alienated.
He used a piss poor choice of words, but being in the context and everything else with the recording coming to light. He has to pay the price, and it's understandable.
This is one case you wont hear me defending this guys right to say what ever he wants and it's being blown out of proportion. If he was the owner of a Mayonnaise company, or Hokey team I might think different given their demographic.
But I personally don't think he's racist. He said some shit and was trying to Manipulate that woman, because he was Jealous or he didn't want to see her there and thought she might not come if she can't bring Magic. Which was wrong in its self, and should be the real story about how he was trying to manipulate this woman. What else would he say to manipulate people into him getting his way?
I've know hateful spiteful racist people and he just didn't sound the part.
In the context of him saying what he did to her, is no different than a Jewish person warning someone NOT to bring a Goy or Shiksa to an event.
The big difference here is, at least everyone at their event and the important key players will ALL be Jewish.
It makes no sense for a Racist person to tell someone NOT to bring a person of certain race, to a sporting event that is predominately THAT race.
"Hey Don't bring Romonda to my Bull fight, why I can't have spics running around"
Or more analogous to this context...
"Hey don't bring Romonda to my Bull fight, I mean you don't want to be seen with Spanish people do you?"
See both sound racist, if not down right silly. But only the top sounds like he doesn't want to see her with Spanish people because he's racist. The other one sounds like a Jealous fool. When you realize he's hosting a Bull fight and 90% attendees are going to be Spanish and the bull fighters them selves will be the best from Spain.
It just don't add up.
This makes the man stupid that he said that over the phone where it could have been recorded, especially since he isn't actually racist. Well not anymore or less than someone 80 years old of any race or ethnicity.
I think he's a manipulative person and more dirt will start to come out about his character; but I bet there wont be any race dirt on him uncovered. Unless we're going to go back to 60 years or more ago, when everyone was a product of their time.
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http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-extended-donald-sterling-tape-1568291249
Do you know that you have a whole team that's black, that plays for you?
You just, do I know? I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have—Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?
This is their world, we just live in it.
After-tax Corporate profits:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CP/
The top 5% of the economy makes a bit more than the bottom 75% put together
The middle 5- 25% also make less than the top 5% (they're each about 1/3 the distribution).
This 5% are not generally-speaking supermen in the entrepreneurial or productive sense. They just have assets working for them, the higher you go up in the income curve, the more this is true.
Even the GOP is going to have to admit this basic fact of reality eventually.