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Jesus christ...anyone who possesses smart bombs and cruise missiles are ALWAYS able to influence the course of events.
Get with the program, please
Yes it certainly has been proven in Iraq and Afganhastan. Last I heard people were flocking to move to those peaceful prosperous democracy loving nations.
All that has been proven is it's more likely to have a bad infuence on course of events than a good one. .
Invading and destabilizing Iraq will be seen 100 years from now as the greatest single act executed by a sitting president.
This act will ignite the great muslim war, which needs to be fought between the radicals and moderates, before terrorism is finally muted to the point of irrelevance.
Dude you really, really have to kick the meth and get off the crack pipe. Serious business, that shit is really bad for you. Once you are more or less clean and sober you need to crawl out of mom's basement and catch up on the news for the last 10 years.
Ok quick summary news flash so you can keep up with the adults. The saudi financed and equipped sunni islamic fundamentalists are winning all over the middle east. The are and will continue to overthrow the corrupt shia strongmen leaders (who are frequently the minority to start with) who were installed by the US and Russia. Of course to grasp this concept would mean you need to learn the difference between the two sects and why it matters. That is on your shoulders.
Now here is where it gets tricky for you to conceptionalize. Try hard, but take breaks if your brain gets to tired. Invading Iraq created more fundamentalist islamic fighters than any other action the US could have possibly taken. In other words the good old USA of is by far the best recruiter of terrorists there is.
Invading and destabilizing Iraq will be seen 100 years from now as the greatest single act executed by a sitting president.
This act will ignite the great muslim war, which needs to be fought between the radicals and moderates, before terrorism is finally muted to the point of irrelevance.
Mostly ignoring the other crap you wrote where you are not really making coherent arguments and liberally use the word "liberal" (use of the word "liberal" or "conservative" in an argument usually means that's a weak argument because you can't make the argument stand on its own merits).
How do you account for the fact that other majority-Muslim countries have had their own "great muslim wars" started without western invasion? As an example, Egypt is already having its own war on this, and certain other Arab Spring countries also had movements started without foreign invasion. Leaders in countries like Bahrain are already seeing levels of protest against their governments.
Also, why would we consider the invasion of Iraq to be the precipitating event? These sectarian issues have existed since the British divided portions of the Middle East into Mandates. The decolonization of the Middle East in a way that didn't account for lessons learned in European history seems to be the most obvious triggering event.
A single invasion of a single country to depose a corrupt dictator looks like a footnote compared to that, not "the single greatest act executed by a sitting president." And the way it could become more than a footnote is that if the US invasion of Iraq pisses off so many people in Iraq and the Middle East in general that they engage in more acts of terror against us. That result is probably not what you were referring to when you called it "the single greatest act."
We're certainly not calling what the Soviets did in Afghanistan genius, and many people are saying we did the exact same stupid thing that they did.
Earlier, Maliki's government accused Saudi Arabia, the main Sunni power, of backing ISIL - something Riyadh denies.
"We hold them responsible for supporting these groups financially and morally and for its outcome - which includes crimes that may qualify as genocide: the spilling of Iraqi blood, the destruction of Iraqi state institutions and historic and religious sites," a government statement said.
Maliki has blamed Saudi Arabia for supporting militants in the past, but the language was unprecedented. On Monday, Riyadh blamed sectarianism in Baghdad for fuelling the violence.
Maliki, who has been buoyed by a call by Iraq’s senior Shi’ite cleric for citizens to rally to the armed forces, dismissed four generals for abandoning the big northern city of Mosul a week ago and said they would face court martial.
WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!
Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."
Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!
And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Wednesday, June 18, 2014 __ Level is 106.1
WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:
And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083
WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!
And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886
We have to get involved. Racist Republican Warmongers can't miss an opportunity to kill Brown People.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
How many guys would Hillary gave to suck off on ESPN2 in order to convince America
All of them.
Boy would that piss Nancy off.
Debt is wealth!
It's clearly irrefutable (except for by 5 year olds) that when in deep shit debt, the solution is to take on more debt and spend even more, P. Krugman said so! Never mind that man behind the curtain ;)
Debt is wealth!
It's clearly irrefutable (except for by 5 year olds) that when in deep shit debt, the solution is to take on more debt and spend even more, P. Krugman said so! Never mind that man behind the curtain ;)
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It's only digital entries on an unaudited set of books. The Fed abides.
Don't worry there is always the home equity loan
Weirdly, this is coming back into fashion.
If I owned any property, and it had equity, and a bank employee tried to push a HELOC on me, I'D SAW HIS DICK OFF WITH A JAGGED PIECE OF BROKEN GLASS PULLED FROM A WARM PILE OF MANURE INFESTED WITH CLOSTRIDIUM TETANI.
I'll let someone else post the HHS report on ACA,out today.
This will be fun.
Really?
Household debts still way below the peak 6 yrs later, with a higher GDP:
Heloc is still negative:
I would imagine recoveries would be accompanied by higher borrowing. We might need more debt for a real recovery to take hold.
I'll let someone else post the HHS report on ACA,out today.
This will be fun.
Now that we have the truth about BenghaziCare, it is only fitting that someone show us that HHS propaganda.
Debt's not a problem with all the 6 figure incomes,thanks to the "Job Creators".
I can see the economy booming.lol
I would imagine recoveries would be accompanied by higher borrowing. We might need more debt for a real recovery to take hold.
I guess a period of healing was in order. Now loans are growing again.
Without wage gains, this indeed will lead us to the next crisis - but it will take years to get there.
Bill's sole act of valor was impregnating the hirsute Hillary. It required night combat gear, black face paint, night vision and a tranquilizer gun, but he did it.
He fired a few rounds in her, got the deed done, then round in himself to calm down.
To this day, Hilary believes that Chelsea is a clone born by immaculate conception. Bill had a hirsute lesbian trophy made up for his study's mantle piece.
The oligarchy can't wait for old Hillary ... Here and abroad. From official State Department release (required by law).
"The annual list of gifts from foreign leaders to government officials in 2012 was released by the State Department on Thursday.
The most valuable gift was "white gold jewelry with teardrop rubies and diamonds containing a necklace, a bracelet, earrings and a ring" valued at $500,000 to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from Saudi King Abdullah.
She also received a "Mouawad Larme D'Amour 18k gold, sapphire, and diamond earrings, necklace, and bracelet," valued at $58,000 from the Queen of Brunei and a $1,750 silver tea set from the president of Algeria."
Yes She Can
Obamacare CBO Cost Estimate JUMPS 65% in Two Months
And this was a surprise how?? And to whom???
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Can we look forward to Immense Hirsute Lesbian Zombie Andrea Dworkin appointed USAG showing up on TV every night to howl, "FIST MY ASS, AMERICA! AND LICK YOUR FUCKING FINGERS!" ?
I would regard that as the least of our worries.
Although, Dworkin would make a pretty good zombie. She really wouldn't look any different from when she was alive.
Would that the Democrats were more the peacemakers than they have proven to be lately.
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/06/18/obama-at-a-crossroad-of-war-or-peace/
Liar, aliens did it. There are video's showing an alien space ship over the FED with CRA on the side. It has to be true, there is a video.
Seriously, you should look into Reno and Clinton's role at Ruby Ridge - the right wing is right about some things.
Seriously, you should look into Reno and Clinton's role at Ruby Ridge - the right wing is right about some things.
The right gets things correct. Things the left screwed up on. It's the constant "we did it but its the liberals fault" refrain that makes the right wingnuts look like the idiiot hypocrtites that they are.
Reno as good as pulled the trigger to execute Weaver's wife.
I was never able to support Clinton after that.
Here's a good refresher on Ruby Ridge - the author is right to wonder why Clinton wasn't impeached.
If we had had a constitutionally-elected conservative, Randy Weaver's wife would be alive.
9-11 was on Clinton's watch. Even after the attacks, Clinton did nothing to catch the terrorists.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Horiuchi took out Vicky Weaver on Clinton's watch.
Exactly!
More right thinking from Ambush at Ruby Ridge:
To: Joe 6-pack
And this was the Clintons! Imagine what 0bama will authorize and do! These agencies must be salivating at all the conservatives they can take down!
7 posted on 11/11/2008 12:01:49 PM by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
The amazing thing about the CRA is the delayed explosion of a bomb that destroyed our economy, along with all goodness and niceness in America, plus motherhood.
Think of it: enacted 1977, detonated 2007. The ultimate sleeper device.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Easy to conflate the events given the distance now and the focus on key actors like special forces, Horiuchi, etc. But is it an article of faith among the tea baggers that Clinton ordered the fire at will protocol at the Weavers?
Boring!
Stop trying to discuss and step back into character. What's the matter with you?!
Shit, I didn't come to the Internet for reasoned discourse! Blech!
More hirsute lesbians taking Ballantyne Ale pisses on realtors frozen to the sidewalk!
So Bush spent $3,500,000,000,003.74 to go there, and didn't bother to destroy those chemical weapons?
You know where that gas came from?
The Reagan Administration. The special envoy to Saddam was Rummsfeld.
WaPo article re-posted by Common Dreams:
https://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1230-04.htm
When Saddam Gassed the Kurds, we lied and blamed Iran.
But I doubt that facility has any working material.
Besides, ISIS already got chemical weapons from Saudi Arabia and used them in Syria. Like in the 80s with Saddam, we lied and blamed Assad.
The problem with realism as a major justification in foreign policy is that yesterday's friend may be tomorrow's enemy. See Afghanistan.
Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons stockpile
All the other headlines read chemical weapons facility, not stockpile. Only the telegraph used the word stockpile. The US military spokesman said today there aren't any usable weapons there. The UN said there weren't any usable weapons there in 2004.
So yes Bush lied.
WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!
Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."
Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!
And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Thursday, June 19, 2014 __ Level is 106.2
WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:
And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083
WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!
And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886
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