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lostand confused says

It looks like you are bothered by the conviction rate, rather than the crime itself?? How is it rape, when woman did not say no? How does one measure how drunk a woman is?? This is garbage and another law that wants to portray women as meek, helpless wallflowers with no responsibility. All the equality, but none of the responsibility. So what is next a drunk woman is no longer responsible if she takes a car and causes an accident-after all it was the pedestrians fault for getting in her way.

Wow. This is a tough one.
What if they are both drunk. How do we know who raped who?

rooemoore says

lostand confused says

How is it rape, when woman did not say no?

You've read the law, right? Where does it say "woman"?

if you read one of my first posts in this thread, that is what I asked. if a woman gives a blowjob to a guy who never said no or yes-then technically she raped him?? because he never said yes. however feminazi inspired laws are never applied to men in equal measure. how many women have been arrested because they had sex with a drunk man who was too drunk to say no. I myself in my younger days have woken up with an ugly wrench on occasion after some hard partying. I thought it was my fault for being so dumb and irresponsible-never did I think I was raped???????? If I did, no court will go after her. but if the situation as reversed-there are quite a few men in jail for the same situation.

How many women have been arrested for this crime? How many women have been arrested for falsely claiming that somebody is the father and forcibly taking money from him. In fact in some states, courts have gone so far as to say that it is in the best interest of the child for the non-father to continue paying child support . What about his feelings at having his heart torn out and cheated in such a primal way??

Nope male feelings, emotions never matter. the last few decades have been about victimizing men in any way possible and women controlling every aspect of men.

The law itself is for women and you have given stats that support that and now you say where it says women-how many women have been arrested for raping men?? how many have been kicked out of college and had their lives ruined for raping men. if the same criteria were applied-plenty should be jailed as rapists-but how many are??

lostand confused says

The law itself is for women and you have given stats that support that and now you say where it says women-how many women have been arrested for raping men?? how many have been kicked out of college and had their lives ruined for raping men. if the same criteria were applied-plenty should be jailed as rapists-but how many are??

thunderlips11 says

"It was the evil mens who made me go to the party, drink to tipsyness, say 'hey everybody, look at me twerking', make out with the guy, offer the guy to come over my dorm room, and fall into his arms. So what came after that is all his fault, as well as every thing else! It was muh sojiny!"

You do realize that the number of woman falsely accusing people is about a hundred times smaller than the number being sexually assaulted? And yet you act like the really problem is the number that are falsely accused.

Pay her?

Rin says

Now, WTF was that? The last time a woman offered to snuggle up with me, overnight sharing the same bed, it was ---CLEAR---, what she really wanted me to do to her.

SoftShell says

Pay her?

New Renter says

Rin says

Now, WTF was that? The last time a woman offered to snuggle up with me, overnight sharing the same bed, it was ---CLEAR---, what she really wanted me to do to her. It wasn't to play a teddy bear.

Esc*rts are different matter altogether.

This was before my esc*rting days ... when I was more careless, dumb, young, and full of c*m.

New Renter and I, already had that conversation.

Long term this sounds like the death knell for patrick.net

dublin hillz says

The law will ensure that premarital sex will be discouraged which will reduce the number of abortions as well as stigmatized bastards in society

Rin says

This was before my esc*rting days ... when I was more careless, dumb, young, and full of c*m.

New Renter and I, already had that conversation.

Don't hesitate to count us in. We love porn.

Yeah, unfortunately that's how it is around these parts....

rooemoore says

You feel bad for me because I've kissed girls and had sex with them?

Good thing it's just white boys drugging women so they can rape them while they're unconscious.

For a minute I thought we were talking of serious crime, like stealing Cigarillos or walking in the street!

if the rape was intentional the guy would lie about it.

if it was not intentional then chances are he's a complete retard and wouldn't be aware of these laws anyways.

these are laws don't really protect anyone or prevent anything. all they do is give women more power over men.

90% of the frat sluts go there to get raped. they only file a report if they didn't enjoy it.

Attorneys are the biggest rapist out there. Most people aren't aware because they hide behind women clients.

rooemoore says

This law is really about getting state universities to be tougher on, for example, frat parties where drunk/drugged and semi-conscious or unconscious girls are fucked.

Clearly rape:
1. Drugging a person and then fucking him/her.
2. Having sex with a person who is unconscious.

Clearly not rape:
1. A woman chooses to get drunk, has sex, and later regrets it.

And yes, both young men and young women deliberately use alcohol to get laid. Young women also use alcohol for plausible deniability, saying they only did it because of the booze. They erroneously think this makes them look less slutty when it really just makes them look like a drunk.

In consensual sex, it's pretty damn obvious its consensual without a word being spoken. I'm pretty sure she wants to when she puts the condom on me with her mouth. That's usually a very good hint.

lostand confused says

Do women ever get prosecuted for false rape accusations?

Unfortunately, no. The punishment for false accusations of crimes should be the same as actual commission of those crimes. If the false accuser is a cop, then ten times the maximum punishment, because the cop used the power and authority of the state in the crime of false accusation.

rooemoore says

You do realize that the number of woman falsely accusing people is about a hundred times smaller than the number being sexually assaulted? And yet you act like the really problem is the number that are falsely accused.

Actually, I don't respect that 2-8% number, because false accusers seldom face charges and they're all ass-pull guesstimates. The definition for false was overly strict, according to that very report:

The determination that a report is false can then only be made when there is sufficient evidence to establish that the sexual assault did not happen (was not completed or attempted.) This does not mean that the investigation failed to prove that the sexual assault happened–in that case the investigation would simply be inconclusive or unsubstantiated.

So in other words, that 2-8% was only when investigators had enough evidence that disproved the females' claims - could prove a negative, but not when there was doubt or insufficient evidence as to the claim.

Since there are seldom witnesses, video cameras, etc. of the alleged rape, there will seldom be sufficient evidence disproving the rape. Proving a negative based solely on he-said-she-said is difficult. So the numbers of false accusations are almost certainly higher.

thunderlips11 says

Proving a negative based solely on he-said-she-said is difficult. So the numbers of false accusations are almost certainly higher.

Your honor, I have not bo*nked in America, for years.

The law is being marketed as the "yes-means-yes" law. I think it really is a "yes-means-no, as you may find out later" law.

Governor Jerry Brown has signed SB 967 into law. Yes-means-No is now the law.

Expect a flood of civil rights lawsuits to commence in the next year.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Affirmed-consent-bill-signed-by-Brown-5787198.php

justme says

Governor Jerry Brown has signed SB 967 into law. Yes-means-no is now the law.

Expect a flood of civil rights lawsuits to commence in the next year.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Affirmed-consent-bill-signed-by-Brown-5787198.php

Otherwise known as the "Immense Hirsute Lesbian Law".

Now, there will be roving bands of lesbians on all campuses with amputated penises dangling from their belts and necklaces.

Chastity pledges, Bible Studies, and weemins keeping their knees together until there is a ring on their finger, means this will never a problem in court.

These laws are just nuts. So what's next, ugly woman demand equality and men who refuse to sleep with them be thrown in jail???

If you sleep with woman 1 and refuse to sleep with woman 2-can you be thrown in jail-I am pretty sure the hirsute ugly feminazis will demand this to be made into law .

Will it be a crime for wanting to sleep with her and not with number 2 below her??

Strategist says

Don't hesitate to count us in. We love porn.

Obligatory:

lostand confused says

These laws are just nuts. So what's next, ugly woman demand equality and men who refuse to sleep with them be thrown in jail???

If you sleep with woman 1 and refuse to sleep with woman 2-can you be thrown in jail-I am pretty sure the hirsute ugly feminazis will demand this to be made into law .

Will it be a crime for wanting to sleep with her and not with number 2 below her??

I think you will be right. If you refuse to get turned on by the beauty on the bottom you will get sued for discrimination. A day may come when you will be charged with discrimination for marrying someone in your own race.

Strategist says

If you refuse to get turned on by the beauty on the bottom you will get sued for discrimination.

In other words, my current lifestyle of bo*nking esc*rts, outside of the USA, is simply ahead of its time. Soon, many men will want an escape from this horseshit.

Fellas, it's time to invest in a RealDoll for your home. I believe it'll pay dividends, once you factor out the blown dates and lawsuits in the years ahead.

And once a year, since that's all the time many will get, plan a trip to the Philippines and bo*nk hoes over there for 2 weeks straight. Come back home and get back to your work.

what if....uh...one is turned on...uh...by the one on the bottom?

Strategist says

I think you will be right. If you refuse to get turned on by the beauty on the bottom you will get sued for discrimination.

lostand confused says

OMG, Teletubbies are real!

The law is simple.

NO means NO.
YES means YES.
MAYBE means...what kind of car do you drive?

Reference thread:

http://patrick.net/?p=1249432

The thing is that false rape charges, remember Kobe Bryant at the hotel in Colorado, now ten years ago, tend to be scandalous and have been known to hurt ppl's business and reputation.

The moment that incident had occurred, everyone around me automatically assumed that Kobe was guilty but I saw that it was BS. And of course, she immediately calmed up, after getting a million out of the deal. How convenient. That's not a person looking for justice and a public apology but a scam artist.

Kobe had lost his Coca-Cola, McDonald, & Nutella deals, as a result of a false rape charge. That was worth more than his NBA salary.

He'd also bought Vanessa, his wife, a $4M ring to calm her down.

Note to self, never fuck a bitch from California.

CaptainShuddup says

Note to self, never fuck a bitch from California.

Kobe Bryant was in Colorado, so you can add much of the continental USA to that list.

The "Immense Hirsute Lesbian" law dictates that a man who gazes at a woman for more than a split second on campus is kept in stocks on the main quad with a dildo protruding from his ass for two days for the first offense, and has to pay said woman a fine of not less than $200 for treating her as a prostitute.

My new California motto: "Boner with Honor!"

These women need "feminism" because they are weak. They cry uncle at the first sight of perceived adversity. Oh, I forgot, they can't even cry uncle because he could be "eye raping" them.

Strong women (e.g. Cleopatra) in history used seduction to gain power. Strength comes from introspection and self-awareness, not policy.

Any person who notices an erection on a fully-clothed man is DEFINITELY guilty of eye-raping.

There is still hope. 50 Shades of Grey is a big hit among women.

Deep down, they all want some time in the Red Room of Pain. Who doesn't? ;-)

Peter P says

50 Shades of Grey

I believe that any contract, like BSDM, which means sex for hire, is illegal in America.

Thus, the characters of the book can be criminally charged, if let's say someone informs the police. If this were Australia, it wouldn't be a problem at all, as there are clubs, which cater to fantasies, including BSDM with 'safe words'.

justme says

Governor Jerry Brown has signed SB 967 into law.

Yet another reason I'm just passing through.

Rin says

I believe that any contract, like BSDM, which means sex for hire, is illegal in America.

Hopefully the popularity of the book amongst women can effect changes. Perhaps true feminists will finally realize that sex is power and sex is business.

One way to remove ambiguity between rape and willful sex is to mandate that money changes hands.

Peter P says

willful sex is to mandate that money changes hands.

Here's the problem, the current generation of Femi-Nazis want their cake and eat it as well. What that means is that they don't want to allow a transaction model, as then, there will actually be services associated with a resource unit of time/money.

If you recall a few years ago, a gal joined a dating site, so that men would pay for her dinners. She was able to save a lot of money, by seeing a different guy, every night. She wasn't at all interested in them but being the losers men are in this society, they all agreed to wine/dine this pretender. The end result was she never called for a 2nd date and moved onto the next guy. There was no sex in any of those situations. It was a pure welfare play.

Rin says

If you recall a few years ago, a gal joined a dating site, so that men would pay for her dinners.

The dating game is like the 3-card monte. :-)

If you deliberately try to play, you will lose.

Peter P says

Rin says

If you recall a few years ago, a gal joined a dating site, so that men would pay for her dinners.

The dating game is like the 3-card monte. :-)

If you deliberately try to play, you will lose.

Yup, my time is money and thus, I don't play. I like more targeted experiences, like Montreal esc*rts.