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I would love for it to come down to a Bernie vs Donald race.
But I'm affraid Bernie doesn't have the whallop that Trump will pack, to take out the corrupt potlical king making process.
That is the number one, and only reason I'm voting for Trump.
If Trump wins regardless how shitty of a President he would be. Which btw I don't think he would have any room to be corrupt or be given enough rope to hang the country.
More than enough to hang himself, but not the country. A Bi-Partisan anti Trump coalition will be waiting for him in Congress. I doubt he'll have much wriggle room other than to do the right thing.
Bernie will be met with the same grid lock but I don't think he would leverage the American people during his SOTU weekly addresses.
That is Trumps primary weapon I see, and his only option and benefit to being President. He knows he will be able to use the Presidency as pulpit to get the constituents engaged with Congress to help get things done. That and if you consider he says he will deal and work and compromise to get things done. He will have more tools to get things accomplished and send the establishement back to the bowels of hell than Bernie will.

Bernie doesn't see the establishment as foes, so they'll crap all over him.

errc says

Why does he get NO COVERAGE?

Because Hillary wouldn't like it. Establishment hates non establishment getting a seat at the table. R's hate Trump, D's hate Bernie. That is how I see it at least.

Would be great to see Bernie and Trump race, not a Romney Hillary shit show.

I'd like to have Bernie beat Hillary but can't see it happen absent of an indictment of Hillary. She's got big money and the lamestream media plus the cultural marxists doing all the dirty work for her.

Marx would shit a brick over Cultural Marxism.

"DAMN YOU! Lumpenproles! De Kapitalist usen der Race and ze Gender to foolen zie! Dummkopf!" *Smashes fist on table, Engels jumps*

Bernie wins Nebraska and Kansas!

Kansas, must be one weird state... Bernie wins that same State Count Chocula does... well, I guess Kansas has a long history of deep division.

Hillary is establishment just to clarify. I'm not a Bernie fan, but I have more faith in him than Hillary.

Bernie vs. Trump would be epic.

Well since cnn are such pussies, im going to put my reputation on the line and call Michigan for Senator Sanders

Hes trouncing Hilary, time to wheel out the real Weekend at Bernies, bill clintons vegetarian corpse

epitaph says

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend.

That is true with pure socialism, but it is equally true that the problem with capitalism is eventually only a very few people end up with all of the money.

Sanders Scores Upset Win Over Clinton in Michigan Primary
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-09/sanders-scores-upset-win-over-clinton-in-michigan-primary
Good job Bernie.

Does any website track the total number of delegates and votes for each candidate?

April 1 2016 update

pledged delegates

IHLary 1267
Bernie 1037

With more Washington state delegates owed to Bernie Sanders yet.

Wisconsin polls show #BernMentum is picking up speed

A new Public Policy Polling survey in Wisconsin, conducted on behalf of VoteVets
Action Fund, finds Bernie Sanders as the favorite in the state’s Democratic primary.
Sanders leads Hillary Clinton 49-43, with 8% of voters still undecided. Clinton leads
among actual Democratic voters in the state, 50-42. But Sanders has an overwhelming
advantage with independents at 62/31, and that gives him the overall advantage in this
open primary. Sanders is strong with voters under 45 (a 65/28 lead), those who identify
as ‘very liberal’ (59/37), and men (56/39). The only group Clinton has a substantial lead with is seniors, at 63/30

If it weren't for the corrupt Democrat Establishment, and senile old kooks, Bernie would have this wrapped up already. And the Trumpkins would be shitting themselves knowing there was pretty much no chance of beating Bernie in the General Election

So who are the "super delegates" that are actively trying to thwart democracy and sabotage the election? Well, most of them are the Establishment LOSERS!!

Democrat Governers 21
Democrat Senators 46
Democrat Reps 193

Their pledged break down is

Governors
Clinton 16
Sanders 0
uncommitted 5

Senators
Clinton 39
Sanders 1 (himself)
uncommitted 6

Representatives
Clinton 166
Sanders 7
uncommitted 20

There you have it, folks. The Democrat party is the big bunch of phony's we always knew they were. Spineless, gutless, hacks, supporting the LOSER and failed candidate IHLary Clinton and all her special interests. Most dangerously, her deep ties with Saudi Arabia and all the money she receives from the funders of 9/11 and the bank-rollers of ISIS.

saroya says

That is true with pure socialism, but it is equally true that the problem with capitalism is eventually only a very few people end up with all of the money.

It's why we do not allow monopolies, to the best of our abilities. But all the socialist countries out there, they are all completely failures, cuba, russia, china...

Bernie is not advocating Socialism. He's pushing good ole fashioned American Democratic Socialism. Kinda like how we are nowhere near a Capitalist country even though some people confuse our brand of Lemon Socialism for Capitalism.

In the DonkeyDen, everyone participating is awarded enough delegates to be the president.
No tears here!

justme says

ALSO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND: Nobody is "winning states" in the Democratic primary

errc says

Spineless, gutless, hacks,

It is called cronyism.

Here in 'Murica we have the best socialism! You'll be cushioned from your bad bets and awful decisions, given money to keep doing what you're doing, and guaranteed immunity from prosecution — IF you're a huge bank!

curious2 says

Does any website track the total number of delegates and votes for each candidate?

First off, it's pretty sad that some loser felt the need to dislike the post referenced above. Really? You really dislike someone asking a non-partisan, completely non-controversial, mundane, and useful question like that? You must really have no life.

Second, yes, Google. delegates democrats republicans and you get both the counts for both parties including the superdelegate pledges.

Oh no, it looks like I upset the official cry-baby of PatNet. It's nice to know he's so obsessed with me he can't even let me answer cursios2's unanswered question without whining like the little bitch he is.

The only time CIC isn't whining is when his mouth is busy servicing glory holes along the New Jersey turnpike. Luckily that accounts for 80% of his day.

I had to put Ironman on Ignore so he doesn't ruin another good thread with his petty personal attacks.

So now I don't see his posts in this thread, and as I understand it, he won't see mine either.

Question is, do those of you who don't have him on ignore, still see his comments in this thread that I posted?

errc says

As the skin color lightens and the income of the voting base increases, so does his support.

And the stupidty goes off the charts.

They are the rowdy angry violent rabble. Show a White Bernie supporter a Trump sign they'll get all Keeper of the faith on you and call you a racist.
But as soon as you walk away, they admit there's not a black face among the crowd of Bernie supporters, and then they'll take to calling them Bible thumping Uncle Toms and Hillary supporters.
The only support they get from blacks is the BLM movement. I hope Bernie brings them all the way to the convention, then hijack the nomination right out from under Bernie and Hillary. With some radical Black Panter's White Transgender Woman that self identifies as a black Transgender Man.

Right. I mean, I understand that is how things are playing out under your roof with the missus and her daughters and their boyfriends. But in the real world, non-white support for Bernie is going parabolic. It's not like non-white folk ever had any reastnot to support Bernie, moreso that they are just now hearing about the guy.

What with your boy oompa loompa with gigantauritis clogging up the airwaves with his meely mouth rabble rousing

errc says

Question is, do those of you who don't have him on ignore, still see his comments in this thread that I posted?

Yes, they do. Even for those of us with the petty boy-child on ignore still see his constant whining on the home page of PatNet.

The only good ignore does is preventing him from posting on the author's thread, but many more regular contributors need to put that boy-child on ignore for it to do any good.

errc says

I had to put Ironman on Ignore so he doesn't ruin another good thread with his petty personal attacks.

So now I don't see his posts in this thread, and as I understand it, he won't see mine either.

Question is, do those of you who don't have him on ignore, still see his comments in this thread that I posted?

Yes we do. On the other hand, I've somehow pissed of Dan again and he put me on ignore ... sigh.

Well Patrick, your whole ignore feature sucks then.

It's a free speech forum. The way ignore works now is a good compromise. Personal choice - yes. Censorship - no.

Whats the value add of allowing people to yell fire in a crowded theater?

errc says

.....Canada, Germany, France, Australia, Japan........

It would be nice if you grew up and stopped lying.

With the exception of 3 or 4 authoritarian patriarchal oil producing countries in the Middle East, the top 20 countries with the highest standards of living and highest median income in the developed world are much more "socialist" than the US is. Turn off Faux Noise and Rush!

What if Bernie gets burned by Hillaries super secret delegates, even though he is slated to take the majority of the known delegates?
And the GOP steals the primary from Trump and gives it to the Ryan/Romney ticket?

Then both Trump and Sanders runs as independents. To shave Hillary's number preception down. The RR ticket would be dead in the water.
It would really turn into a tight three way race, that I believe ultimately Trump would win.

Tenpoundbass says

Then both Trump and Sanders runs as independents.

Under that scenario where we have 4 candidates, can any one get enough electoral college votes to become president? And if not, then what?

We need to force the 1 peron one vote rule. And do away with all party politics.
January 1st any candidate on the official Federalized standard ballot, will have 11 months to campaign. The one with the most vote, yes just one vote would be enough, wins.
Skip the primaries totally and just do away with the roles that the GOP, RNC, the DNC and the myriad of Super PACs have.

Thats just your vision going bad from pre-diabetes. A junk food diet will do that to you

He looks like that podium is holding him up.

Those lil' Munchkins has Grandpa all tuckered out.

Look at Ironman Feeling the Bern!

Keep watching the YouTube! #FeeltheBern

Ironman says

Ya think so... go to about the 16:00 minute mark in this video and watch and listen:

I see a passionate guy who is making salient points, although he is losing his voice.

Meanwhile, today, people close to Trump were on TV excusing his gaffes last week due to his being tired from campaigning too hard.

http://polichart.com/interactives/bern-path

Well every poll going into todays NY primary shows hillary with a DD lead. In about twelve hours we will see how accurate they were. Hoping Bernie pulls the upset