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jazz music says

"Trust me"

People who respect you are happy to show proof. They honor the desire to trust but verify. Used car sales people and cons say, 'just trust me.'

YesYNot says

Trump has more charisma. Bloomberg has more business acumen, intelligence, experience in office, and has traditional business ethics. I'm pretty sure it played well to college educated white independents.

Bloomberg is a tyrant, a literal authoritarian. I've said this long before Summer 2015.

He's a solid neoliberal, Mr. CCTV Man. Bans food from Homeless Shelters FFS.

http://patrick.net/Bloomberg+banned+food+donations+to+homeless+shelters
http://patrick.net/Bloomberg+Refused+Second+Slice+of+Pizza+at+Local+Restaurant

Additionally, his total anti-gun stance is legendary, so if you're hoping he convinces some moderate Republicans to jump ship, good luck with that.

Only more legendary is his commitment to Wall St: Bloomberg: Banks didn't create Mortgage Crisis. He thinks the government helping modest peons instead of Elite Brainiacs like him did that.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/01/358482/bloomberg-mortgage-crisis/

No wonder Bloomberg endorsed Hillary

She'll sign TPP.

thunderlips11 says

Turning off the lights on the Bernie Delegates.

It's stupid petty shit like that which demonstrates why all Bernie supporters should refrain from voting Clinton. They have four choices, all symbolic, but casting a vote is symbolic anyway since your vote isn't going to amount to shit anyway. So it sends a message and nothing else, that's still better than nothing. The four choices they have are:
1. Write in Bernie. It would be wonderful if Hillary loses AND the write-ins for Bernie are more than enough to have had elected her if they were votes for her. That's the ultimate way to send a message.
2. Vote for Trump. You lose the clarity of the message, but it counts doubly against Clinton.
3. Stay home. This is the worst choice because you can still vote for Democrats for the House and Senate if you don't stay home.
4. Vote for a third party candidate. Really, why not just write-in Bernie instead?

thunderlips11 says

Pro-Bernies go over the Great Wall of Hillary

It will be interesting to see what there Donald, tea party, and disaffected Bernie or bust people do. Will they join up in any way, past this election. It probably depends on the election results. I don't see Donald sticking with politics if he loses, but you never know.

thunderlips11 says

Additionally, his total anti-gun stance is legendary, so if you're hoping he convinces some moderate

Like I said, college educated white moderates.

One more thing about Bloomberg.

When it's Government largess to bailout banks, we have "Infinite Money".
http://patrick.net/USA+Has+%27Infinite+Amount+of+Money%27...+Bloomberg.

When it's schools, hospitals, college, infrastructure, we have to watch every penny.

thunderlips11 says

One more thing about Bloomberg

I get that Bloomberg isn't your type of guy, but do you think the speech was good? What's your reason for thinking it won't be effective? Just that Bloomberg not well liked by independents?

YesYNot says

I get that Bloomberg isn't your type of guy, but do you think the speech was good? What's your reason for thinking it won't be effective? Just that Bloomberg not well liked by independents?

Bloomberg is the epitome of the Oligarch Figure who is an overmighty subject. He is loathed by most Republicans AND by pretty much every Bernie Voter.

You guys don't get it, yet.

Dan8267 says

1. Write in Bernie. It would be wonderful if Hillary loses AND the write-ins for Bernie are more than enough to have had elected her if they were votes for her. That's the ultimate way to send a message.

It would be pretty funny if that happens

Glad Obozo finished.....Just ran out of puke bags

Former CIA Director Panetta emphatically booed with "Lies" and "No More War"
www.youtube.com/embed/14ESiwPr75I

(This is what made the DNC operatives turn off the lights on the crowd earlier)

Dan8267 says

1. Write in Bernie. It would be wonderful if Hillary loses AND the write-ins for Bernie are more than enough to have had elected her if they were votes for her. That's the ultimate way to send a message.

That's what the Nader guys effectively did in 2000: stickin' it to the man!

And it changed everything. Totally showed the powers that be who's boss. Burned that motherfucker down, so we could rebuild fresh.

Yessirree, Nader accomplished so much - changed everything, really.

When I think about the massive wave of positive change Nader brought about in 2000, it's hard to believe how much good it did.

It's an insurance policy against public picking not what they want us to pick. Thinking same thing as errc

HydroCabron says

And it changed everything.

numbers matter

PCGyver says

Bernie tried to get the Democratic nomination but the DNC decided to shit on him and all of the party that thought he was the best choice to beat Trump.

Emails among 7 assholes in the DNC organization, plus some biased media strategy didn't steal the primary from Sanders.

This ought to get under some skin here.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/27/democratic-delegates-outraged-chick-fil-a-served-at-dnc/

Democratic Delegates Outraged Chick-Fil-A Served At DNC

Hillary appropriately wearing all white pantsuit. Fitting for someone so pure

Hillary says something about divisive rhetoric being bad. She should probably just stop talking considering everything she has said.

YesYNot says

This ought to get under some skin here.

A beautiful shared moment of true love, respect, and forgiveness. "I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House.... And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002" (Clinton, 2008).

Somebody tell Bill his wife is embracing a black man!

Hillary Clinton is the only person to rip off Goldman Sachs.

If her DNC robotic speech is anything to go by, she scammed the fuck out of Goldman Sachs. What was it, $250k?

Bill Clinton falls asleep during Hillary's speech:
www.youtube.com/embed/70Ave-qhBaI

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/archives/2013/03/20/russian-ships-displayed-at-dnc-tribute-to-vets/78536950/

On the last night of the Democratic National Convention, a retired Navy four-star took the stage to pay tribute to veterans. Behind him, on a giant screen, the image of four hulking warships reinforced his patriotic message. But there was a big mistake in the stirring backdrop: those are Russian warships.

While retired Adm. John Nathman, a former commander of Fleet Forces Command, honored vets as America's best, the ships from the Russian Federation Navy were arrayed like sentinels on the big screen above.

These were the very Soviet-era combatants that Nathman and Cold Warriors like him had once squared off against.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/dnc-apologizes-for-showing-russian-warships-in-tribute-to-us-veterans/

That's it. I'm voting for Trump. The choice is clear. On one side, you have some frumpy thing with no fashion sense and like zero charisma. She's a hard worker, but has way too many corporate ties. Plus, I just don't feel anything for her. On the other side, you have a big strong guy who has the greatest smile. And he's so much fun, right? I just know he'll take care of me. I can practically feel it. American males unite. Let's put Shillary in the friendzone, and spread 'em for big Don.

zzyzzx says

Bill Clinton falls asleep during Hillary's speech:

Bill's been bored with Hillary for the past 40 years. You know Bill's thinking "I wish Mgtow was around when I decided to get married.".

thunderlips11 says

Wrong. Her job as chair of the DNC was to get Hillary elected. She just got promoted!

And Kaine is pro-TPP. He defended TPP just days before he was picked for Veep. McAuliffe goes around telling Wall Street press not to worry about the TPP not passing under Hillary.

Not good, folks, not good.

http://regated.com/2016/07/dnc-proved-clinton-cant-win/

Do any Republicans or Independents buy what the Democrats were selling? That the country would be better off with more of the same incompetence of the last eight years? Not one of those speakers convincingly made that case. In fact, the DNC might have driven down Hillary’s numbers with the Stalinist suppression of Bernie holdouts both in and around the convention

With the climax of this self-indulgent remake of DNC ’08 and ’12 featuring an old, white, corrupt hag poorly delivering a badly written speech, it is hard to imagine how Democrat money and clout can save a fundamentally bad candidate. This is hard to imagine because it will not happen.

It is very easy to underestimate the power of enthusiasm; but compare Obama’s margin of victory in 2012 to 2008. When Obama had the whole “hope and change” charade going and Chris Matthews was getting thrills up his leg, he could count on his people to get off the couch and cast their vote. Will that constituency turn out for corrupt lame-o Hillary Clinton? There is a culture on the internet that refers to Donald Trump as “the God-Emperor of Mankind.” As a millennial, I can say with some authority that Donald Trump may be the most ubiquitous internet meme of all time. The record amount of Republicans that turned out for him in the primaries in a 17-man race will turn out loyally in November. Are there a whole lot of Democrats jumping out of their seat to vote for Hillary in November?

Consider the importance of messaging as well. There was no ambiguity at the RNC as to what the party of Trump is all about: Make America safe/work/first/one/great again. Ask any Trump voter from Oregon to Texas and they’re voting for Trump to make America great again. This is a clean, elegant, concise phrase that achieves versatility through its strong appeal to a universal sense of patriotism. The Trump brand is the America brand. And what about ol’ crooked Hillary? What was the theme of DNC 2016? The only consistent message I could discern from that four-day word stew was “Donald Trump is a racist, I’m not Donald Trump.” If this becomes the dominant narrative of the Hillary campaign, as it is shaping up to be, she will have a much harder time winning on a platform that is wholly dependent on framing the public’s perception of Trump. The media has not figured out how to do this in the 13 months since he launched his campaign.

The failure of the DNC is symptomatic of the intrinsic flaw of the Hillary campaign. She must defend the status quo. This has meant a status quo DNC. A candidate from eight years ago wheeled out the same tired rhetoric of eight years ago to win over an electorate that created Donald Trump to reject the legacy of the last eight years. Half of her own party voted to reject the last eight years with the breakout success of insurgent Bernie Sanders. If she could barely put down a revolt in her own party led by a 70-year-old Jewish socialist from Vermont even with hundreds of millions of dollars, name recognition, the support of a sitting President, and a party system actually rigged to nominate her, how does anybody expect her to stop the most remarkable political phenomenon in American history?

All the President’s men cannot resurrect the political zombie which should have been laid to rest in 2008. After six years of betrayal, the American people have found their voice in Donald Trump, the instrument of righteous popular retribution against a downright evil political class. And this year, at long last, Hillary Clinton’s time has come; and she is beyond salvation.

zzyzzx says

Ask any Trump voter from Oregon to Texas and they’re voting for Trump to make America great again. This is a clean, elegant, concise phrase that achieves versatility through its strong appeal to a universal sense of patriotism.

Some see it as a moronic dog whistle for working class white voters who blame diversity and immigration for the stagnation of their incomes. That's what you'll hear from any democratic voter, as well as a lot of republicans that aren't going to buy the demagoguery.

"Duh, we used to have increasing incomes, but real incomes have been decreasing for decades. It must be the liberals fault. It must be immigrants fault."

IT couldn't possibly be the fault of our low taxes on upper increments of income, misplaced priorities, or decreased govt investment in things like infrastructure, and higher education and the commons.

zzyzzx says

Donald Trump as “the God-Emperor of Mankind.”

Speaking of the Donor Class, theKoch Brothers won't pay to run anti-Hillary ads.
http://www.wmtw.com/politics/speaker-paul-ryan-and-other-top-republicans-to-address-koch-group/40962338

And some people never get deliberately hyperbolic enthusiasm (or are deliberately not getting it in order to smear). #CENTIPEDE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-god-emperor-creepy-reddit_us_579a6970e4b08a8e8b5d38b5