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76725   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 9:03am  

Ironman says

Here is RCP today without toss-ups and where they think states will go:

All Trump needs to do is flip NH.

76726   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 8, 9:04am  

joshuatrio says

Uhhhh... seriously?

Yes. Read my post if you want to know why.

Here's a summary of his model: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
Here's what Nate's prediction is:
On popular vote. Most likely outcome is Clinton by 3.5. He has editorialized that it might be more like 4 by the time the polls, b/c they are moving in her direction and the polls lag. He's also said that usually, things fall within 2 points of the expected mean, but things can clearly be and have been off by more than two. You can eyeball the popular vote distributions to see that he gives her about a 20% chance of beating her in the popular vote. One tail on a single deviation is about 16%. He's closer than that though.

He gives Trump a 30% chance of winning the electoral college. If you eyeball that chart (mentally integrate over Clinton with 270-360), you get about a 50% chance (0.6*90). There's clearly a 30% chance of Trump winning. That leaves about a 20% chance of Clinton getting > 360. What I think is interesting is that the peak on that distribution is so broad. I think that his model must not assume that the states are independent (as it shouldn't). Otherwise, I would think that the peak would be narrower.

76727   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 8, 9:18am  

Silver is predicting she'll win by 3.5%. I agree with him that it will probably be 4%. I'd be surprised if it wasn't between 1% and 7%. You posted facts without any interpretation. You want to be able to imply something without offering an opinion, so that you can hedge your bets.

I think that the polls are pretty accurate and the results usually fall within +-2%. I don't believe that there is any giant conspiracy of Jewish overlords controlling the banks and media and skewing these polls for Clinton. If you do (like Trump and Giuliani) then go ahead and tell us what you think the popular vote will be.

Here's what oversampling means and how it is legitimately used: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/donald-trump-polls-rigged-oversampling-democrats/

76728   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 8, 10:15am  

That particular sample may be of by a couple percent. But there is probably a reason so many polls keep getting lots more dem responses. It might be a different way they are asking the questions. For example, how are you registered. Might give a different result from how do you identify. How you identify might be impacted by how you are voting in the present election or how you feel today.

Trump's internal polling agrees with the major polls, so trump knows they are fair. He's just lying about it. You actually believe the lie.

76729   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 8, 8:33pm  

This shit cracks me up.

76730   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 8, 8:37pm  

I don't believe God will allow a nuclear holocaust. But the end of the world could be near.

76731   junkmail   2016 Nov 8, 8:51pm  

Watch CNN now for a good laugh...

76732   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Nov 8, 8:52pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

TRUMPLIGULA!'s FIRST DICTATES:

OBAMFUCK: Back to Kenya!

IHLLARY: Under arrest by AG Steven Segal

God willing.

76733   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 9:27pm  

76734   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 9:28pm  

76735   junkmail   2016 Nov 8, 9:36pm  

No I'm just watching CNN trying to come to terms with the facts. Wolf almost pissed his pants because Clinton was up 99 votes in NH. Only to be disappointed 45 seconds later.

I guess you flail a lot when you don't get your talking points direct from the DNC. Guess they're not picking up the phone.

"Hello Donna?"
"Donna... can you hear me.?"

"Donna... Donna?"

76736   lostand confused   2016 Nov 8, 10:17pm  

YesYNot says

ilver is predicting she'll win by 3.5%. I agree with him that it will probably be 4%. I'd be surprised if it wasn't between 1% and 7%. You posted facts without any interpretation. You want to be able to imply something without offering an opinion, so that you can hedge your bets.

76737   AllTruth   2016 Nov 8, 10:28pm  

Lock & Load.

My BIL is SWAT in LA and said they've been called up as have reserve officers.

76738   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 8, 10:30pm  

Hiillary should be arrested, not for the emails, but for blowing the election by not nominating anybody popular for VP and for letting her husband meet with the justice gal and for keeping on that bitch that was caught interfering in Sanders' race.

76739   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 10:31pm  

BLM and Lindsay Graham and IHLs, looting stores and burning cars.

76741   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 10:46pm  

Hey Gary, shut the fuck up

76742   MMR   2016 Nov 9, 12:04am  

Well, there is this issue of Clinton conceding defeat to trump...seems like lot of people didn't think he could win, myself included.

Sanders vs trump prob would have been closer. Time for establishment to reinvent themselves

Not necessarily fan of trump but the media co it use to act surprised when they were lying about trump odds along. Funny that so many are brainwashed by the news

76743   MMR   2016 Nov 9, 12:06am  

MMR says

Well, there is this issue of Clinton conceding defeat to trump...seems like lot of people didn't think he could win, myself included.

Sanders vs trump prob would have been closer. Time for establishment to reinvent themselves

Not necessarily fan of trump but the media Pretends to act surprised when they were lying about trump all along.

76744   Peter P   2016 Nov 9, 12:25am  

The only appropriate action to events with "zero" implied probabilities is to bet on them.

Favorable risk/reward.

76745   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 9, 12:36am  

Following a political theology can lead to disappointment.

76746   missing   2016 Nov 9, 12:40am  

Peter P says

The only appropriate action to events with "zero" implied probabilities is to bet on them.

I tried. He refused. Tried to dodge with only 9:1 odds.

76747   anonymous   2016 Nov 9, 12:40am  

where's hydro carbon?

76748   RC2006   2016 Nov 9, 2:48am  

Eating crow.

76749   lostand confused   2016 Nov 9, 4:23am  

This is only half the battle. Now we have to make sure he keeps his promises-or at least push as hard as possible. I know people here who voted-they did not vote by candidate-but by issues. Many were devastated by free trade, globalisation, H1Bs and see no way out. In my company itself, I can't hire anybody local, but only through the big H1B firms-which is a shame, when there is a surplus of talent that si willing to work at comparable rates.

Something needs to change, else there will be an all out revolution. The corporate/globalists have taken it too far. Hillary the globalist scum Queen was just so unapologetic and really proved that dems/repubs are two sides of the same coin. There are a lot of such scum in Washington and Trump has a heavy fight against him-but it is time. The populace -except in the coastal areas in their ivory towers and safe spaces-has had it with the globalist agenda.

76750   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 9, 4:38am  

Obligatory:

76751   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 9, 7:33am  

Hey, where's tovarichpeter?

76752   indigenous   2016 Nov 9, 8:10am  

Predictions are hard, especially about the future.

76753   NDrLoR   2016 Nov 9, 8:56am  

"There's going to be a TON of pissed off people tomorrow"

I absolutely believe an assassination attempt will be made against Trump before inauguration day.

They've already started--I saw a story about protests in I think Oregon (where else).

76754   Y   2016 Nov 9, 8:57am  

This.
He better hide out for his own good. Too many unstables in a population of 300 million plus..

P N Dr Lo R says

I absolutely believe an assassination attempt will be made against Trump before inauguration day.

76755   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 9, 9:00am  

Yep. Where is @Rashomon.

Everytime they predict disaster if we don't do what Wall Street Says, and it ends up being not bad at all.

76756   joshuatrio   2016 Nov 9, 9:02am  

Ironman says

Not really...

He was wrong about his stock market prediction

He was wrong about his recession prediction

He was wrong about his gold prediction

He was wrong about Trump winning the nomination

he was wrong about Trump winning the General

and for the finale, here is his prediction on the election, he missed it as bad as Nate:

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He did miss the election (on a much larger scale than he should have).... he's done really well with housing (wish I'd listened to him back in the day). However, maybe I'm biased because his advice made me quite a bit of cash in metals a few years ago.

76757   Shaman   2016 Nov 9, 9:02am  

Dang it the swing was too fast! I was hoping the market would go down a couple k for a couple days so I could make some money!

76758   Shaman   2016 Nov 9, 9:07am  

landtof says

where's hydro carbon?

We will never see him again. He was an obvious paid schill for the globalists/Democrats.
He is probably out looking for work!

76759   Shaman   2016 Nov 9, 9:11am  

lostand confused says

my company itself, I can't hire anybody local, but only through the big H1B firms-

That is damning evidence of reform necessary! Fuck a bunch of that!

76760   Ceffer   2016 Nov 9, 9:42am  

Barcode the pussies for Trumpligula! They will be graded and ordered by the USDA and given blue stamps, just as the Founding Fathers intended!

Sexual Harassment will become mandatory!

76762   Ceffer   2016 Nov 9, 10:02am  

Pussy Grabbing is now a Holy Sacrament, by Edict of Great Trumpligula!

76763   Ceffer   2016 Nov 9, 10:09am  

The future of Pussy is great again! No skank pussies will be allowed to breed, only the most grabbable pussies will proliferate!

76764   FortWayne   2016 Nov 9, 10:23am  

Thanks for the entertaining post AF

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