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Democrats including the OP seem intensely emotional at the moment, competing to denounce the next administration, yet now might be the moment to see they could have done better. It's a climate thread, and I do want to follow up on the opportunities to make use of CO2:

Noam Chomsky has an office at MIT, where he remains Professor Emeritus. If he walks across the campus, he can see this:

"Putting carbon dioxide to good use

MIT biological engineers have found a way to convert carbon-dioxide emissions to useful building materials, using genetically altered yeast."

Noam travels, and might like to see this:

"Researchers convert carbon dioxide into a valuable resource
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Researchers at Aalto University have opened a pilot plant that converts CO2 and slag, the by-product of steel manufacturing, into a valuable mineral product. The product, Precipitated Calcium Carbonate (PCC), is used in e.g. plastics, papers, rubbers and paints. The innovative plant represents the next stage prior commercialization of a new process that consumes CO2 in order to convert a low-value by-product into a highly valuable resource for industry."

If you believe that CO2 controls climate, then you should be thinking about how to convert excess CO2 into something more useful. Instead, Democrats proposed only transfer payments that they could take a cut of, en route to sending the money to backwards corrupt countries where they would get kickbacks, and those backwards countries include Muslim countries, so we could all get our heads cut off. That would be what scientists like to call "a bad idea." Finding uses for excess CO2, and ways to manage temperature more directly, would be what scientists like to call "a good idea."

Someday Democrats might admit that they have room for improvement. Actual liberalism should embrace science and must absolutely denounce Islam. Democrats did the opposite, and are currently doubling down. I hope America and science will make enough progress in the next four years to raise the level of discussion from despair to optimism.

Ban POV Cars. And intercontinental pleasure flights. And tax the fuck out of intercontinental business flights. Everytime Tom Friedman flies to Turkey to do a fawning report on IBM Officies in Izmir, he emits more carbon than a block of middle class American families do in a year. All else is nothing. Certainly recycling cardboard is "Environmental Theatre" the way the TSA is "Security Theatre". Carbon Credits is a Wall Street scam to create a speculative market.

The Democratic candidate, as SoS, travelled as far afield as Poland to promote Fracking, and the President had to step in and go over her head to delay Keystone XL, she wanted to approve it.

It can be so annoying when your beautiful idea is blown away by an ugly fact.

So, returning to the topic of your own OP, what is your proposal to manage the climate? Taxing Americans to subsidize corrupt politicians and kleptocracies in central Africa? That is basically the point of the current conference in Morocco, and other similar conferences that generate a lot of spending. Do you see how your focus on red team vs blue team perpetuates the division you complain of, while preventing you from even proposing anything to address the issue you posted about?

jazz music says

humanitarian works

"[January 12] marked six years since a 7.0-magnitude earthquake devastated Haiti, killing an estimated 300,000 people. Tens of thousands of Haitians are still living in tents. Here in New York City, a group of Haitians gathered in front of the Clinton Foundation to protest former President Bill Clinton’s role as head of the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission. Activist Dahoud Andre was among them.

Dahoud Andre: "Today is the 12th of January 2016, six years after the earthquake. And for us, it was important to be in front of the Clinton Foundation, because Bill Clinton, as head of the IHRC, Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, was responsible for the $6 billion that came into his hands. He had unlimited control of this money. Six years after the earthquake, not much has changed, and as a matter of fact, Haiti is in worse condition than it was in 2010. Only Bill Clinton can tell the world what happened with this money.""

That doesn't even mention the cholera that Haitians got from the U.N. as part of that aid. Talking about disasters, and collecting money supposedly for humanitarian purposes, does not really do humanitarian work.

#1, heart, #2, cancer, #3, Iatrogenic=death by doctor

Didn't really realize how bad it was until earlier this year a family member got talked into a procedure (they didn't need in the first place, colonoscopy), sent home in massive pain (with a painkiller btw which also thins your blood and conks you out), bled out in their sleep, unable to awaken as well. Big loss, incredible lady..

junkmail says

Is this in relation to another thread?

We don't have any User's medical history, but people who suffer chronic migraines may be prescribed analgesics (including opiates and opioids) that can cause dizziness and loss of balance. Also, hospitals injure 20% of patients; in circumstances where the standard of care calls for hospitalization, that introduces additional risks.

I remain dismayed by the tragic loss of a true favorite on PatNet. Almost everyone liked her, and everyone should have.

jazz music says

the threat of nuclear destruction

Blue team partisans kept saying that, but it backfired because their candidate and her surrogates had the worst risk of it, escalating the war in Syria on behalf of their Saudi sponsors. Democrats proposed killing Russians in Syria, including shooting down Russian planes in Syria ("no fly zone"), literally seconds from Armageddon. Somehow, Democrats kept saying "nuclear war" without realizing it backfired on them every time, because they could not (or refused to) see the danger from their own policies. None so blind as those who will not see. I considered carefully the risk of war on either side, and every time Democrats mentioned the issue it hardened my unwillingness to vote for their catastrophic proposals. Watch the original The Sum of all Fears (2002), with Ben Affleck and Morgan Freeman, and remember Muslims are the last surviving component of the Nazis' European axis. 100k European Muslims joined the Nazi SS because of the similarity of their ideology. The Clintons have misled America into war on behalf of their Saudi sponsors time and again, killing hundreds of thousands and possibly millions, and HIllary proposed killing Russians, who can fight back in all sorts of ways including nuclear. You keep talking about existential threats, but citing examples that were worse from the blue team. Basically, you are making the case against the Democrats. You might like the Post about Why Democrats Lost because you keep bringing up reasons why Democrats lost.

The funny thing is that such biased polls backfired horribly.

Arguably, they created a sense of complacency that suppressed turnout.

jazz music says

our principal natural enemies.

If we would like to continue living, then our principal natural enemies are the people who believe they are commanded to kill us wherever they find us. They are the same people who commit the vast majority of terror attacks worldwide, because Islam commands believers to strike terror into the enemies of Allah. Democrats wanted to import more of them, and want now to have one chair the DNC. Again, you keep making a case against the Democrats, apparently without realizing it.

If you consider opioid painkillers as a larger problem of addiction and impairment rather than a smaller problem of over prescribing, than there is a larger uncounted death toll.

Seldom is anybody is going to waste money to autopsy a junkie or an addict to establish a precise cause of death, toxicology etc. all of which are expensive. The stigma of addiction leads to a lot of 'causes of death' being attributed to something other than alcohol, nicotine, narcotics, stimulants etc.

Also, there is no counting the number of non-vehicular accidental deaths caused by individuals being impaired in one way or another. The deaths that are counted are just a percentage of a much bigger uncounted and unattributed number.

I doubt that opioid painkillers, taken as prescribed for the purpose they were intended, lead to many deaths. It is going to be the non-prescribed abuse.

The drug companies? All pushers know that addicts are a boon to profits.

The fact of the matter is the many polls had Hillary up about 5%, but with a 5% or so margin of error. So one could argue that it was a tie all that time.

Then you had to figure that lots of Trump voters weren't admitting it, or else they might get fired from their job like they do at Grubhub.

I thought it was possible, but I thought it would be tighter than it was in terms of the electoral college vote. He actually blew her out pretty nicely.

NBC and even ABC had her at double digits for quite a bit.

http://heatst.com/politics/donald-trumps-fisa-warrant-russia-admits-it-ran-him-as-agent-of-influence/

October the FBI sought, and was granted, a secret FISA court warrant giving U.S. counter-intelligence agents permission to examine the activities of “U.S. persons” in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

That video was from her holding cell at Happy Pines Institute for the Insane.

He wouldn't be the Trumpligula we know and love if he didn't ignore absolutely everything he said during the campaign and staff the government with the most vile bottom feeder miscreants of the swamp, who were waiting on the wings for him to be elected.

another lying jew

jazz music says

Chomsky talks about the Republican party's inability to come up with a moderate candidate

And the Democrats?

Ceffer says

He wouldn't be the Trumpligula we know and love if he didn't ignore absolutely everything he said during the campaign and staff the government with the most vile bottom feeder miscreants of the swamp, who were waiting on the wings for him to be elected.

Now that's funny!

HEY YOU says

He wouldn't be the Trumpligula we know and love if he didn't ignore absolutely everything he said during the campaign and staff the government with the most vile bottom feeder miscreants of the swamp, who were waiting on the wings for him to be elected.

That's true. This is what TPB, dimbulb John, ZZYZZX, TLips etc have been so excited about for over a year. Finally their fantasy is a reality.

Isn't it awesome ?

P N Dr Lo R says

And the Democrats?

Wtf ? You don't think Hillary is moderate ? She's basically a republican except on social issues.

This tweet is from last night:

Except they were never planning to close the plant. They were thinking about moving the production of one model. But hey, what a surprise he's banging away on Twitter making up shite. Very presidential. It's bizarre that he still feels the need to so blatantly lie.

Rashomon says

They were thinking about moving the production of one model.

Yeah, to Mexico.

zzyzzx is sad says

Rashomon says

They were thinking about moving the production of one model.

Yeah, to Mexico.

Thinking about rejigging production lines is not the same as closing a plant no matter how much you and Trump would like to spin it.

Fuck apple and their fanboyz club.
Time to invade and conquer Samsung and bring android production to the US of A.

Mark D says

good now we need Apple to bring both jobs and cash here.

This is true grass roots rebuilding...

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Trumpligutard would claim credit for delivery of a pizza, if it made a news reader burp on the evening news.

Are you going out of NAC into equities then?

will cause great damage to our long term economic prospects.

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Relative to the path we were on, prior to this election?

You had said a year ago that we were already FUBAR. This was before Trump was in the picture. That we should be building a life boat and an exit strategy. You even said that you didn't want a Democrat to win this election, because when it all comes crashing down (sometime in the next year or two), that you wanted the blood to be on Republicans hands

There may well be a boom, at least in nominal terms.

However, I do not see how the world can settle scores without resorting to a major conflict.

The election of Trump merely changes how that conflict will play out, not if or when.

Are we deadjusting for inflation now?

Peter P is sad says

However, I do not see how the world can settle scores without resorting to a major conflict.

We have just gone through the worlds longest period of peace, and currently have the lowest rates of conflict (historically speaking), ever seen. "Scores" can be settled in multitudes of ways, without going to war ... and our best generals/leaders seek just that.

Enough nationalism is going to create the conflict but conflict isn't an inevitability. The wind is blowing heavily that way. The steady diet of fear, plus economic trouble, has been quite problematic for unity. The question is not when but if we succumb to it.

Have to love the symmetry of it being 100 years since the explosive birth of 20th century and making of the modern world via WWI -> WWII.

Rew says

Enough nationalism is going to create the conflict but conflict isn't an inevitability.

Delaying the conflict will just make it bigger when it happens. Conflicts are kind of like earthquakes.

Peter P is sad says

Delaying the conflict will just make it bigger when it happens. Conflicts are kind of like earthquakes.

Lots of little conflicts ease "the big one".

seems like a no brainer to pick up more stocks and inhale some meth...what to buy...hm...

^^Reactionary con longing for a hereditary ruling family.

Heraclitusstudent says

ETFs: FXE to buy euros, FXF swiss francs, FXY yens.

Gold.

Key level on 10's broken this morning

If you close above 2.50%

Lower highs and lower lows short term gone

By the way, where are the gold bugs now???

Tenpoundbass says

Are we deadjusting for inflation now?

Core isn't even at 2.5% yet

ECI wage inflation is at 3.9%

Recent reads

In Med Care: Drugs 5.24% vs 5.38% ok. Med Equip -0.79% vs -0.61% ok. Hospital Svcs 4.06% vs 5.64% !, Health Ins 6.93% vs 8.37% !.

Primary Rents: 3.79% vs 3.70%; Owners' Equiv Rent 3.45% vs 3.38%. Lodging away from home 4.37% vs 3.73%. All big jumps.

Housing 2.87% from 2.70%. BIG jump