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Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

That's completely nuts.

The only nuttier thing I heard is that the Jews want the Muslims in Europe, so they can be surrounded on 4 sides by Islam.

What is nuts? I think what is nuts that the Zionist Organization of America is cozy with Bannon, who is an anti Semite with Breitbart offices in Jerusalem. If you are Jewish you are foolish to trust the Zionists.

You cannot deny that Breitbart website was transformed after his death, to an anti Semitic website.

Just FYI Thunderlips, in this distancing himself from the alt right he admits one of the threads on Breitbart is antiSemitism!!!!

My question is, how can he have zero tolerance for it and yet allow it on Breitbart?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/19/bannon-alt-right-young-anti-globalist-anti-establishment-nationalist/

"Kolomoyskyi wants, a fusion of neoNazis and Jews."

I'm just guessing, Gary, but I've got feeling that you are part joo. However, you come across as one of those self-loathing joos that is obsessed with everything Jewish. Since the neonazi part of you is constantly at war with the joo part of you, you are a prime example of why there will be no fusion of joos with neonazis.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

The only nuttier thing I heard is that the Jews want the Muslims in Europe, so they can be surrounded on 4 sides by Islam.

The Jews in Europe are obviously suspicious of the native tribalism of European countries for good historical reasons.
They would prefer a global multicultural village with no frontiers. Unfortunately this approach makes Europe an easy prey to the strong tribalism of a certain larger religion. Again, our elites fail to understand the nature of tribalism: as it were a virus from which humanity could be cured. And the Jews among them in particular should know better.

I think there's some truth to it, but it's highly exaggerated by Katholik Stronk that wants to push their worldview that the Jews are Behind Everything. In reality Jews are fleeing France and Sweden in historical numbers. The high end Eurocrat-level Jews in Academia, Media, and Government might be insulated from it but not the other 90%.

This has far more to do with Multicultis in Western Europe than Jews. It's gone so far that the Deus Vult gang (never seen actually attending Mass or Confession) pushes the BS that Merkel is Jewish.

Elite Secular Jews have the same interests the other Elite Seculars have. Keeping rents high, wages "competitive" (ie trending down or at least flat), and slapping themselves on the back for their cosmopolitan, non-racist sentiment (while engaging in heavy class warfare cloaked as anti-bigoted white person attitudes but really anti-working class)

I think the truth is the current Multicult Thing is a kind of cloaking of classism behind a veil of anti-racism. I don't think it's an accident it took off starting at the end of the Cold War, either.

Agreed: this has nothing to do with Jews. It's about elite vs people on the ground.
Still Jews are scared of nationalistic reactions in Europe probably even more than the growing Islamism.

Heraclitusstudent says

Still Jews are scared of nationalistic reactions in Europe probably even more than the growing Islamism.

Definitely. Big Mistake! Trump winning was far better for national unity than Hillary, whose campaign focused on demonizing Whites and Males whereas Trump at least attempted to reach out to everybody. Ironically it may be the non-Muslim Asian immigrants that turn the tide in Europe, if the media doesn't cover it up.

It already happened in France, with the Chinese. The neighborhood, Auberville, where the attacks happened are the Muslim Ghettos; not much different than the attacks on Koreans in LA by hood rats. Of course this rfi piece dodges that uncomfortable fact.

http://en.rfi.fr/france/20160904-thousands-french-chinese-protest-racist-attacks-paris

I know there are Sikh and Hindu activists who try to point out that the Paki Rape and Grooming Gangs especially target their communities, but almost never will a major British media outlet cover them.

black swan says

I'm just guessing, Gary, but I've got feeling that you are part joo. However, you come across as one of those self-loathing joos that is obsessed with everything Jewish.

You are an asswipe. My natural father was Jewish. But I know the difference between being Jewish and Zionism. The Jews were closer to the truth than the Zionists are. The historic Jews knew that Zionism wanted a fake Zion. So, no I don't hate Jewish. Don't be a dickhead.

Heraclitusstudent says

Still Jews are scared of nationalistic reactions in Europe probably even more than the growing Islamism.

There is nothing wrong with that position. It is the smart position. You know how many Americans will die because Trump will radicalize Jihad?

Gary Anderson says

ou know how many Americans will die because Trump will radicalize Jihad?

apparently, Jihad isn't radical enough and has room to become more radical

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Ironically it may be the non-Muslim Asian immigrants that turn the tide in Europe,

Nice to hope, however, one limitation is that they are not as ghettoized as muslim populations

Gary Anderson says

You are an asswipe. My natural father was Jewish. But I know the difference between being Jewish and Zionism. The Jews were closer to the truth than the Zionists are. The historic Jews knew that Zionism wanted a fake Zion. So, no I don't hate Jewish. Don't be a dickhead.

Right, which is why every Jewish service ended in "Next year in Jerusalem". Jews have wanted back in Israel since the Roman emperors deported them in large numbers.

At least we didn't get the Dacian treatment.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

heavy class warfare cloaked as anti-bigoted white person attitudes but really anti-working class)

aka limousine liberalism

Gary Anderson says

The Jews were closer to the truth than the Zionists are.

LOL. The real Jews believe in their horrible religion. Thank God there are very few of them.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

but almost never will a major British media outlet cover them.

To this day, articles about India, particularly in Economist tend to take on snarky tone. Still butthurt about 1947

All the Jews I know are scared of Trump. I have no idea why, but they say as a white male I don't understand. Ok...

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Gary Anderson says

You are an asswipe. My natural father was Jewish. But I know the difference between being Jewish and Zionism. The Jews were closer to the truth than the Zionists are. The historic Jews knew that Zionism wanted a fake Zion. So, no I don't hate Jewish. Do an

Right, which is why every Jewish service ended in "messiah.Next year in Jerusalem". Jews have wanted back in Israel since the Roman emperors deported them in large numbers.

At least we didn't get the Dacian treatment.

Even the True Torah Jews in Israel reject Zionism and await a real Zion.It isn't revealedto them that Christ is their messiah but they know Ben-Gurion was not their messiah.

Quigley says

All the Jews I know are scared of Trump. I have no idea why, but they say as a white male I don't understand. Ok...

He is anti Semitic and pro zionist.Same as Bannon

Trump dabbles in white supremacism..

Quigley says

All the Jews I know are scared of Trump. I have no idea why, but they say as a white male I don't understand. Ok...

Well, it wasn't Latinos who made them breathe carbon monoxide....

It was hydrogen cyanide manufactured by bayer/IG Farben - zyklon B

MMR says

Nice to hope, however, one limitation is that they are not as ghettoized as muslim populations

Asians don't care about ghettos. They work hard, make themselves useful, gain trust and make their way where they need to.

Gary Anderson says

You know how many Americans will die because Trump will radicalize Jihad?

"radicalize Jihad" is a stupid sentence.
But I understand what you mean. You mean when Trump takes actions to contain Jihadism, moderate Muslims will suddenly feel attacked and turn into violent islamists themselves. There are several things we can say about that belief.

- First, if moderate Muslims are such ticking bombs, then it proves that Islam is in fact a problem, and we should be talking about nothing else, and do everything in our power to avoid importing Muslims,

- Second, there are different types of tribes: Islam is a religious tribe. The US and European countries are national tribes. Tribes in general tend to coalesce and unify when attacked, and thereby reject perceived intrusions and attacks. You fully expect and understand this would be the case for Muslims, but then you expect the western national tribes to be attacked over and over again but stand still and not react. If you have such lofty expectations of westerners, why not have the same expectations of moderate Muslims?

Gary Anderson says

Trump dabbles in white supremacism..

Bullshit.

This is true and they even tried to exterminate it!

Gary Anderson says

Even the True Torah Jews in Israel reject Zionism

Tora, Tora, Tora, LOL.

True Torah Jews = subset of a subset of Haredi, possibly a few thousand strong, who are waiting for King Schlomo to rule Israel with the prophet Elijah at his side.

T L Lipsovich says

Gary Anderson says

Trump dabbles in white supremacism..

Bullshit.

It is on video. His own face, and words.

T L Lipsovich says

True Torah Jews = subset of a subset of Haredi,

They know a fake Zion when they see it because they compare what the prophets said about the New Zion with the claims of the Zionists. Pretty simple for them to do that.

FUCK you gary. You're as delusional as the Zionist you claim to hate.

Gary it's nice to see you out and about from under you rock.

Quigley says

FUCK you gary. You're as delusional as the Zionist you claim to hate.

You obviously failed to read this from a Jewish professor at Oxford University who says the Zionists confuse the issue of anti Zionism and anti Semitism ON PURPOSE: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/01/170111143904887.html

You don't know much Quigley, which is why you were forced by your ignorance to blurt out hateful rhetoric.