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78529   missing   2016 Dec 27, 1:19pm  

I am not sure anymore what liberal means.

I am anti PC, affirmative action, religion, and criminalizing drug use. For universal health care, keeping the rich poor, affordable education, and legal prostitution. I've only voted for a socialist party (in my country of origin). Am I a liberal?

78530   justme   2016 Dec 27, 1:50pm  

FP says

Am I a liberal?

No, you are a progressive.

78531   lostand confused   2016 Dec 27, 2:34pm  

FP says

I am anti PC, affirmative action, religion, and criminalizing drug use

Yeah I am the same on those positions and not sure where I fit in the political specturm. However in regards to the OP-that is disgusting. I mean rape should go back to mean -when a person is foricbly held against their will and have sex forced on them.

Not I got too drunk and had great sex ,but regret it the next morning or he promised to buy me a Popsicle after sex and did not do so and hence I was raped.

If the Jihadis were not so intent in killings and bombings-Muslim countries are the last bastions for men. I just don't get why even talking about male suffering and pain is not even allowed in this culture. I have seen a few documentaries of false rape accusations on Fox News and their impact on college kids who were kicked out-with no proof. But other than that it is always women, women, women-heck mattress girl is held up as some sort of symbol.

I think if there was soem party that stood for true equality, protecting American jobs, decriminalizing prostitution and drugs etc-it would get a lot of votes-time is ripe for that.

78532   Rin   2016 Dec 27, 4:50pm  

FYI, I'll be f'cking hoes for the rest of my life.

Let's see that one play out in some court in Australia ...

Hoe: 'Your honor, he didn't pay me, and thus, raped me!'

Rin: 'BS! Here's my card credit receipt. It reads, 'Accommodations at *Boink, Boink, Boink, Relaxation INC*'

Hoe: 'Wholly sh.it! You keep your receipts!?'

78533   Ceffer   2016 Dec 27, 6:34pm  

Rin says

Boink, Boink, Boink, Relaxation INC

Do they really have a whore house called that? Cool.

78534   lostand confused   2016 Dec 27, 7:31pm  

I think it is italy where making a false rape accusation is a crime. We need that int he USA, where it should carry the same sentence as the accused crime and the fake accuser needs to be registered as a sexual deviant.

78535   mell   2016 Dec 27, 8:15pm  

Cable is finished. The smaller ones are going belly up, the big ones will try to reinvent, robbing mainly older/immobile citizens for a while longer. The reception with a digital antenna is far better than with a standard comcast box (they are often slightly defect and flicker a lot) and you get more channels than with basic TV (some are international though). Internet with a hotspot - say from T-Mobile - is $25 month and - if you have good reception in your area - is lightning fast. So for $25/month plus a digital Antenna for $20 you can save $50+ per month easily on not paying the cable bill.

78536   lostand confused   2016 Dec 27, 8:38pm  

mell says

Internet with a hotspot - say from T-Mobile - is $25 month and - if you have good reception in your area - is lightning fast. So for $25/month plus a digital Antenna for $20 you can save $50+ per month easily on not paying the cable bill.

How is it with volume. I have only Comcast in my area, so tried to go digital/satelite, but almost all said that it would not be good for me. I work from home a bit, download videos etc . This was a couple of years ago, maybe different now.

78537   mell   2016 Dec 27, 10:34pm  

lostand confused says

mell says

Internet with a hotspot - say from T-Mobile - is $25 month and - if you have good reception in your area - is lightning fast. So for $25/month plus a digital Antenna for $20 you can save $50+ per month easily on not paying the cable bill.

How is it with volume. I have only Comcast in my area, so tried to go digital/satelite, but almost all said that it would not be good for me. I work from home a bit, download videos etc . This was a couple of years ago, maybe different now.

If you're fine with dvd quality you can stream unlimited without it counting towards your data from many services. For occasional work from home the 6GB or 10GB hotspot in addition to the unlimited streaming should totally suffice. Even when they throttle you after that it is still fast enough for non-video related work. The hotspots are super small compared to bulky boxes or wireless routers and if you want to go completely without hardware you can use your phone to tether and take the internet with you (I prefer having a small hotspot device at home). Def. worth a try if your reception at home is good.

78538   MMR   2016 Dec 28, 5:08am  

Ironman says

President Obama claims he could have won a third term if he had been allowed to run, but many Democrats in down ballot races haven’t been as successful during Obama’s presidency.

He prob would mobilize black vote better than Hillary but I still think Bernie sanders could beat him in a primary not rigged.

Obama and Clinton part of old guard; ironically, Bernie is part of new guard. Someone with Bernie like platform will win 2020 nomination, not Michelle Obama or anyone like that, unless platform radically different

78539   lostand confused   2016 Dec 28, 5:24am  

I think they will lose even more. If you look at the lefties on thsis ite, they still make fun of any people who vote repub. Hillary on down and even OBozo-but he used to go to other countries and bash us- just think of us as rubes.

Now I have no problems voting for the right dem candidate-but hey insult me and then expect me to vote for you-just because you think you are the chosen one. MM no-act like public servants and then work on understanding the common man's problems -jobs, jobs, a better future. Instead they push and lobby for the TPP. If Hilalry had won, Obama would have gotten the TPP passed-by repub help of course-but TPP would be law, just like he passed the Israel resolution.

ironically it took a brash billionare from NY to connect with the common man. Now it lefts to be seen if he will do it -but so far encouraging. lets see when he gets in office.

Dems have to worry about men in women's restrooms and of course the rancid feminazism. I am beginning to think many women are also starting to distance themselves from the feminazis and false rape-after all every man on this planet came from a woman and false rape affects and them and their sons. The same for all the stupid laws against men.

Unfortunately repubs don't do much on unfair child support, alimony etc-but at least they don't enact more rules.

We need people who like freedom more-stop jail for child support/drugs/hookers etc-crimes that are personal behavior. Crimes should be only ones that affect others-physically-not emotionally.

Trump it is and hopefully he will change the course for the repubs to be more the party of the common man. Obama and Hilalry have made the dems the party of the SJW and the corporates and Wall street-just look at the donations this cycle.

78540   komputodo   2016 Dec 28, 5:48am  

Ironman says

BTW, where am I sending this case, to your house or office? It's my Christmas present to you.

-

Please ship it overnight express. The chafing is driving him crazy.

78541   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 28, 8:28am  

Thelostand confused says

I think they will lose even more. If you look at the lefties on thsis ite, they still make fun of any people who vote repub. Hillary on down and even OBozo-but he used to go to other countries and bash us- just think of us as rubes.

That's the problem. They think they can win on Vagina Pillows and calling everybody a Racist. Everytime they get a taste of power, they forget economics and are willing to go to the Triarii over Multicult legislation. But they'll back down in a second over a Public Option or allowing Judges to cram down mortgage terms.

lostand confused says

Unfortunately repubs don't do much on unfair child support, alimony etc-but at least they don't enact more rules.

They actually do, sometimes:

http://www.wuft.org/news/2016/03/16/florida-legislature-passes-bill-on-shared-parenting/

But it was vetoed by the Governor, probably due to divorce lawyer pressure, who don't want laws that make shared custody the norm, they want to squeeze fathers to make money over automatic female primary custody.

And guess who else was opposed?

NOW. The organization that claims feminism is about equality.

78542   HEY YOU   2016 Dec 28, 9:02am  

~4500 american service men lost their lives under g.w.bush/republican liars WMD LIE.
How many on 9/11?
Why do you hate americans?

78543   mell   2016 Dec 28, 9:12am  

Well JFK put a man on the moon, Obummer put a man into the women's restroom. That's all you need to know about the state of the Democratic party. This shameless pandering to minorities such as the rich elites or people with gender crisis while screwing over the "regular guy" middle-class is what go them here. and once the millenials row up and realize how fucked they are they will quickly abandon the part of the special snowflakes. This is a great time for the Republicans or a 3rd party to capitalize on this disorientation and divide, unless Trump proves as a yuge uniter and overcomes the neocon cucks inside the Republican party, then the Dems would be finished for quite a while to come.

78544   Dan8267   2016 Dec 28, 11:25am  

FP says

I am not sure anymore what liberal means.

I am anti PC, affirmative action, religion, and criminalizing drug use. For universal health care, keeping the rich poor, affordable education, and legal prostitution. I've only voted for a socialist party (in my country of origin). Am I a liberal?

Dan8267 says

What is liberalism?

Liberalism is the political philosophy that

1. All people are equal under law. We are a nation of rights, not privileges, and everyone has the same right.

2. People should be allowed to do what they want as long as they aren't infringing upon the rights of others. There should be no victimless crimes.

3. Government should be transparent and accountable for its actions.

Just ask yourself how much you support each of the above principles. It's not a Litmus test. The question is how liberal are you.

See the referenced thread for more details and how to determine how liberal you are.

78545   Booger   2016 Dec 28, 3:34pm  

I don't think Democrats have been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.

78546   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 28, 5:50pm  

Ironman says

mell says

then the Dems would be finished for quite a while to come.

They've been finished, unfortunately they haven't woken up to that FACT yet. The data in the OP should have been a wake-up call along with the popularity of Sanders and Trump. The Dems are asleep at the wheel.

Yep, Corbyn pulled the same shit in the UK as the Dems did back in 2009-2010

He won the Labour Election for his Economic and Non-Intervention talk. Then he started pushing Left Wing Culture Causes first and foremost and mucked about with how many minorities he could put in his shadow cabinet.

This is exactly why the US Dems were swept out in 2010 as soon as they were swept in in 2008. People wanted their jobs back and banks disciplined, not Lilly Ledbetter Womyn's Paycheck Lawsuit Expansion, not Americorps Fluffly Nonsense, not more new Restrictive Federal Gun Show Laws, not toothless reform with all the tough parts stricken by bankster friendly Clintonista-aligned leadership.

Look what Obama is doing now - all Culture War crap to fire up the base - while turning off people who don't think the Keffiyeh is cool.

78547   HEY YOU   2016 Dec 28, 6:18pm  

BOYCOTT ALL Rep/Con/Tea/Alt-Right/Neo-Nazis!
Make the WHITE TRASH PAY!
Trolls can do nothing about it.

78548   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 28, 6:56pm  

HEY YOU says

Make the WHITE TRASH PAY!

Hey, that "deplorable" stance won you all those seats and the White House in 2016. Sounds like a winning strategy. Maybe try it again.

78549   Y   2016 Dec 28, 7:14pm  

Well, I guess that could be John Goodman on a good day...

78550   Booger   2016 Dec 28, 7:24pm  

Macropodia says

Well, I guess that could be John Goodman on a good day

Looks like Trigglypuff after an attempt to go up a fight of stairs.

78552   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Dec 28, 7:53pm  

TAKE THAT RIN!

78553   komputodo   2016 Dec 28, 8:04pm  

Fucking White Male says

ID HIT IT

I admire your courage.

78554   Ceffer   2016 Dec 28, 8:06pm  

Trigglypuff giving birth to a huge, steaming burrito turd.

78555   lostand confused   2016 Dec 28, 11:16pm  

Fucking White Male says

ID HIT IT

As in "hit it" or just punch it with your arm?

78556   Y   2016 Dec 29, 6:12am  

When your wife says "no" to you for the 25,000th time and you are a john goodman lookalike with no hope for finding another blind bride...well, to paraphrase Reggie Hammond, 'Lack of pussy make you whine! Man!'...

anonymous says

she felt very strongly you had more than a passing interest in this, whether the result of a personal matter or that of a family member.

78557   HEY YOU   2016 Dec 29, 11:44pm  

Sad state of affairs!

78558   MMR   2016 Dec 30, 5:57am  

How many times did mother jones refer to Obama or Clinton as an idiot?

78559   MrEd   2016 Dec 30, 6:06am  

mother jones is a dyke tranny...

78560   Shaman   2016 Dec 30, 8:31am  

7. Thank Russia!

it's not like they hacked the Pentagon. If they did it, they phished Podesta's DNC account, downloaded emails, and released ones that showed him and his ilk to be the corrupt monsters that they are.

Whoop de freaking do!

We don't like Killary anyway and we are glad her campaign went down in flames. She was the absolute worst person for the job and America dodged a bullet when she wasn't elected President. Hell, the way she talked and raged, we may have dodged a few thousand nuclear warheads!
War with the other nuclear superpower in the world is and should always be out of the question. Conflict like that goes beyond destruction and politics and power. It's an extinction level event.

Any other option must be pursued before the one that would wipe our species from the face of a radioactive and uninhabitable planet Earth.

You hear that, duck????

Any option! Any politician who even hints that nuclear war might be an acceptable solution to a POLITICAL problem is INSANE and must not be allowed such power!

FUCK! I thought this shit was obvious, but apparently some people are too ignorant to understand that you can't blow up the world and then win!
What the actual FUCK?!

78561   Tenpoundbass   2016 Dec 30, 8:55am  

Usually in these circumstances the US government actually lists IPs and where they were tracked to, they have logs and packets to offer up as proof.
The only thing Obama has offered is ill-timed triggered crybaby accusations.

And if it is true that Putin ratted Hillary, the DNC and Obama out to the American voters, then we owe him one flattering statue, in the appropriate halls where other American hero statues are erected.

78562   Robert Sproul   2016 Dec 30, 9:06am  

7. Something else

-Train our bumbling apparatchiks basic internet hygiene and then hold THEM accountable.
-Learn something about diplomacy from Putin, he is running circles around us.

78563   HEY YOU   2016 Dec 30, 9:12am  

How about all the fuckheads that haven't read any of the alphabet soup govt. agencies reports on Russian hacking, post a link to them
I be glad to read the evidence.
I have read all the reports that prove that IRAQ HAS WMD.

78564   Tenpoundbass   2016 Dec 30, 9:15am  

He saved us from a Muslim American hating Kenyan on going legacy.

In the scheme of things, this is a better pay off.

78565   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Dec 30, 9:16am  

Three.

Denier in chief will opt for five.

78566   Robert Sproul   2016 Dec 30, 9:18am  

Valuable to recall that the US has interfered in foreign elections as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon. Most recently in Russia’s backyard.

78567   Tenpoundbass   2016 Dec 30, 9:27am  

I'm glad Trump came along, Dan makes sense now.

78568   marcus   2016 Dec 30, 10:22am  

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Obama has been the most anti-Whistlerblower President in US History; Hillary would be even worse.

Yeah, thank goodness we have an upgrade to a President that's okay with Russia (maybe successfully) influencing our elections.

Gosh, could it be that Trump doesn't want to condemn Russian efforts to illegally influence our elections becasue he is the one they helped elect ?

Probably just a coincidence that all of those arguing that it was okay for Russia to use stolen info to influence our elections happen to be happy that Trump won.

If they had any integrity or intellectual honesty, they would say they are glad Trump won, but that at the same time they are not okay with Russian government meddling in our elections. There are some republicans that have taken that position. Who knows, maybe those are republicans that privately would have strongly preferred Hillary as President.

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