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Straw Man says

#3 is the only rational choice.

With no more appetite for war in the Middle East, and Apple, Walmart, Samsung,etc.nixing any conflict with China, all Lockheed-Martin and Raytheon really have is to saber rattle on Russia.

Otherwise, they make have to make products for the private sector and compete in the global market, instead of being able to "Develop as we Manufacture", probably the greatest scam ever pushed on the taxpayer.

That being said we need a whole new fleet of planes that can dogfight, however the contractors will bid and a panel of USAF pilots at least 15 years from retirement will make the selection from among completely finished, flyable and testable prototypes.

Booger says

Russian hackers did not write those emails, corrupt Democrats did

Shhh! We're too busy shooting the messenger.

Trump was right, again.

if Putin ordered this, the hacker would have launched the attacks from a cyber cafe in France so nothing could be traced back to Russia.

at least Bush had balls and took out Hussein and helped secured the petrodollar. Obama ordered some useless, crybaby, soon to be removed sanctions to save face.

Ironman says

They all contain poison.

Just another Red State that can't protect it's citizens.

retarded OP on multiple levels

HEY YOU says

Just another Red State that can't protect it's citizens.

If only they had pre-cogs like Blue States do. Or, maybe this beaner was on the Minority Report. Food for thought.

“Breaking News” Obama Will Come Out The Closet After Donald Trump Is Inaugurated.

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(b) Putin wanted the weakest candidate to win.

If Putin would have wanted the weaker President, he would have told America to stick with the best don't mess with the rest.

I believe it's been a proven fact you can see Russia from Sarah Palin's poorch.
It was the only truthful thing said in 2008.

Let's ask Obama which country is the big threat.

www.youtube.com/embed/T1409sXBleg

Obama's journey to the dark side is complete.

Look at Mitt a perfect establishment Tool he knew who was going to win.

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HINT: You guys are rooting for the WRONG team.

Joe McCarthy Dindu Nothin' Wrong! Traitors!

I found Putin's laptop with malware tools in a Pumpkin Patch in Maryland!

Clearly, Putin doesn't consider lame duck Obama worth even responding to at this phase of the game. He's like "da, da, send out the real man in charge you nimby pansy boy!"
Responding to provocation with clear contempt is a sign of strength.
And no, I'm not against America.
Americans mostly don't feel animosity towards Russia, and Putin hasn't expressed anything like hatred for America, the way the Muslims Obama keeps pushing on American communities always are.
Obama hasn't represented real America for a long, long time.
He represents me about as much as the Canadian Prime Minister does.
Less, since he's lost all power in 20 days.

HEY YOU says

Just another Red State that can't protect it's citizens

A big beautiful wall will do that!
MAGA!

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Don't strain yourself. LOL.

The scariest thing about these image?
"Whoa There, Slow Down! If if if if if you don't stop pulling on the leash, Okie Dokie?"

"Do not worry. I too have Tiger Blood."

When have the intelligence/counter-intelligence agencies and national security and intelligence direcotrs of the United States EVER deliberately mislead the Public to put in place a policy they wanted?

"We don't need Kefauver's Committee. The Mafia does not exist."

and more recently:

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HINT: You're rooting for the wrong team, comrade

Where is the proof that it is more materially dangerous than supporting Saudi Arabia ?

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Putin caves and loses face to the world. This is basically an admission of guilt, and he clearly doesn't wan't the US to release damning information.

He now looks like Obama's bitch :)

Putin is evil and vile, but he comes out looking smart and on the high ground in this one. He knows Trump will reverse Obama's sanctions. He can easily wait a month.

Now Putin gets to gloat how he's the bigger man by not expelling diplomats and he's repairing US-Russian relations. Obama looks weak in not being able to deal with this issue before he leaves office. But hey, Obama still has 20 days to close Gitmo and keep his campaign promise. Anyone think he will?

The Obama administration has been a failure, just like the Bush administration. A Hillary administration would have been a failure as well. Trump is probably going to be a disaster, but he'll take down the Republican Party with him. Ironically, that makes him more useful than the other three.

Dan8267 says

Putin is evil and vile

Do you think Russia would be better with somebody like Yeltsin?

I don't think full democracy is always the best option. Compare how China and Russia (as well as many of the other former Soviet and Soviet block countries) fared during the transition from centralized/planned economy. Vietnam is also doing well. Western-style democracy in developing countries opens up the opportunity for too much corruption and external influence.

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

retarded OP on multiple levels

Just galactically wrong!

http://www.thelocal.se/20161231/swedish-judge-refuses-to-deport-teens-who-gang-raped-child

Swedish judge refuses to deport teens who gang-raped child

A Swedish judge has refused a prosecutor’s request to deport five Afghan teenagers who forced a younger boy into a wood and then gang-raped and beat him at knife-point.

“Given their age and the security situation in Afghanistan, they would be hit very hard by the expulsion,” the judge said in his ruling.

The youths have instead been sentenced to a year and three months in a young offender’s institution.

The five young men dragged the victim into the woods surrounding Gottsunda suburb in the city of Uppsala at the end of October.

The beat him all over his face and body, and then forcibly penetrated him while one of the boys held a knife, threatening to stab and even kill him.

He was also bitten on his back during the assault, which lasted more than an hour.

Putin is a statesman. He has a vision he lays out, takes hours of questions directly from the public - and most of them not 'boxer or brief?' fluffy questions, he's always willing to talk, when you fuck with him he punches back open and honestly.

Obama, like other Western leaders, is a technocratic managerial functionary. They conceal their true purpose, manipulate and lie to their public, only do interviews with media figures with the questions given in advance with the right to pick which ones can be included, give the silent treatment take their toys and go home like a whiny bitch when they don't get their way, and fund the most outrageous assholes secretly while denying it.

Russian hackers stole my last rolls of toilet paper this morning! Wah-Wah!
#Obummer
#fail

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The job of the President is to execute, NOT to lead

A good executive is a good leader, show me an example of the opposite. I agree with you that some people want to be ruled by an authoritative figure.

I wouldn't elect Putin. I disagree with many of his positions on internal governance. However, he's not running for the American POTUS, he's not actively threatening us, he wished us a Merry Christmas like a Christian man, and he wants better relations. Compared to Obama, he is a much better leader.

Ironman says

McAfee argues that the report is a “fallacy,” explaining that hackers can fake their location, their language, and any markers that could lead back to them. Any hacker who had the skills to hack into the DNC would also be able to hide their tracks, he said

Except he has been out of this game for decade or more. Except US signal intelligence might have developed new waysa to track cyberattackers. All this clamoring from Russians and their useful idiots demanding "moar proof wit moar details" is an attempt to find out the extent of US intelligence capabilities. Don't you worry, congressmen will see all the proof during the investigation.

Let me ask you a question, do you believe the bullshit that Assad, knowing the US was doing a full court press to overthrow him like Saddam, had any incentive to use chemical weapons?

Or was the Obama Admin lying like Bush?

And here's something else to ponder.

SONY was hacked, and to this day there is no agreement as to whether it was North Korea or Disgruntled Employees

Now, if years later we don't know if DPRK, activists, or ex-employees performed these massive hacks. Naturally all the government Crowdstrike type companies were all 100% sure it was DPRK, but most independent supergenius consultants and Conference Keynote speakers think it was disgruntled employees.

Is DPRK more or less sophisticated, you think, than the FSB?

Yet apparently within weeks, the entire Intelligence Apparatus is confident the DNC Leaks were definitely Russian.

Anybody believe that Russia is less capable of covering it's tracks, less sophisticated than the DPRK?

Maybe Obama should take up Assange on his offer:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/wikileaks-offer-help-obama-authenticate-russia-hacking-claims-credible-a7482941.html

100% track record on verifying the authenticity of material. And believe me, every snoop and legacy media outfit wants them to slip up just once out of millions of documents, so they can accuse them of possible fabrication forever.

Quigley says

he is a much better leader

So what you're saying is that you wish we had a ruthless dictator who silenced or strongly intimidated opposing views.

Ironman says

Ahhh, another report for you to get TRIGGERED about.

An employee's laptop, not connected to the grid system.

The malware's source code is available on the internet.

Just more hype.

Not to sidestep the thread, but where are the interviews with Trump's Sex Crime victims?

Can the media follow up on the frontpage with the status of any civil filings?

Or did it all just disappear in the hours surrounding the election, like most of these old fashioned dirty trick claims do.

It's very serious that we have a potential pussy grabber in the WH.

Straw Man says

All this clamoring from Russians and their useful idiots demanding "moar proof wit moar details" is an attempt to find out the extent of US intelligence capabilities. Don't you worry, congressmen will see all the proof during the investigation.

Exactly. Some might argue that we can't trust our own intelligence agencies. That may be true at times. But it doesn't mean we can be demanding that they show the entire public their evidence which is of a highly classified nature. AS much as the Russians would love it if they did.

Ironman says

Do you think posting the same thing over and over makes it true??

Says the guy whose never put together an argument beyond empty assertions and personal insults.

Another web security firm analyzes the "proof" says its wasn't Russian intelligence
https://patrick.net/1300763/web-security-firm-the-russians-used-old-ukraine-off-the-shelf-malware

This is a Dennis Baughn / Shrekgrinch thread.