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indigenous says

Secession is a state's right.

LOL

Straw Man says

indigenous says

Secession is a state's right.

LOL

You do realize that the states created the Federal government? Not the other way around.

States have the right to nullify the Fed policies as with marijuana usage.

If the states have these rights by extension they would have to have the right to secede as the framers intended.

"Yep, it only took another printing of $4 TRILLION of fake money and another $10 TRILLION tacked on to the debt to get there! WINNING!!!"

That will look like a HUGE bargain in 4 years.

Ironman says

Yep, it only took another printing of $4 TRILLION of fake money and another $10 TRILLION tacked on to the debt to get there!

This can't be true!
No Republican or Democrat would ever allow this!

Let's get serious.
BOYCOTT ALL Republicans & ALL DEMOCRATS,NOW.

I encourage you all to look at what the Dow has done since Nov 8th. I had to look twice because I couldn't believe it surged that high.

Now doesn't history show that when these big milestones are reached, they continue higher in the short term?

"Sure thing Tatty, let's look at the DOW the last 2 YEARS under Obama:"

Cherry pick much? If you're going to grade Obama, look at his entire time in office. Looks like ~300% gain to me. Not too shabby.

LOL!!!

"I just did, two years after he had 6 previous Years to fix things, and the market has gone nowhere, and this is AFTER injecting $4 TRILLION of printed money and another $10 Trillion in debt and doubling the Debt to GDP ratio. After the QE money flow got turned off, growth stopped. Still want to give him a blow job?

Uh, no. But I will give him credit for a great bull run in stocks.

It might explain why Trumpligula is so fond of suing everybody, ADA and all.

Ecotopia, bring it on!

..."a 1970s cult novel, originally self-published by its author, Ernest Callenbach, that has seeped into the American groundwater without becoming well known...

The novel, now being rediscovered, speaks to our ecological present: in the flush of a financial crisis, the Pacific Northwest secedes from the United States, and its citizens establish a sustainable economy, a cross between Scandinavian socialism and Northern California back-to-the-landism, with the custom — years before the environmental writer Michael Pollan began his campaign — to eat local.

White bicycles sit in public places, to be borrowed at will. A creek runs down Market Street in San Francisco. Strange receptacles called “recycle bins” sit on trains, along with “hanging ferns and small plants.” A female president, more Hillary Clinton than Sarah Palin, rules this nation, from Northern California up through Oregon and Washington...."

indigenous says

It is NOT possible to do worse than Brown.

Gayin Newsom is very, very talented in this regard.

indigenous says

You do realize that the states created the Federal government? Not the other way around.

Duh. I also realize that it's not up to ONE state to change the borders of the USA. We have a Constitution and legal procedure for such changes. Want to secede - jump through legal hoops. Want to change the procedure - jump through legal hoops. Don't want to do either - try to win a civil war (good luck with that).

NuttBoxer says

I've always been in favor of secession. No more IRS, DEA, FBI, or any of the other three letter asshole agencies. No more federal funding to support our massive welfare state(goodbye welfare babies). No more federal schools, no more standardized testing.

We have wine, weed, tons of farmland, craft beer, silicon valley, porn, movies, and TV. We'll be debt free overnight, self sufficient in years, and charge everyone UP THE ASS for our exports. Wanna get high, drunk, or beat one out? Not without a 75% SURCHARGE!!!

Sure you are. So what is your plan for military protection? Contract with the United States Army, Navy, Marines, National Guard, Coast Guard, and Border Patrol?

jazz music says

And then get chased by a naked CIC.

Straw Man says

Gayin Newsom is very, very talented in this regard.

Gawd I hope not, why do you think that, I mean that he is that bad?

justme says

California is lucky to have Jerry Brown in office

Jerry was instrumental in letting unions into the public sector and they are the main driver of California's pension crisis that is causing our cities to go bankrupt and giving us the worst rated infrastructure and schools.

The pension crisis facing California is going to dwarf the housing bubble - IMO. Here is hoping that the State Supreme court breaks the "California Rule" this year. It is the only way we have a prayer of digging out.

Granted, Jerry now looks halfway sane compared to the extreme left wing nuts that dominate the State legislature. But that is not saying much.

Dan8267 says

And then get chased by a naked CIC.

You'd better hope he does not get trans-uranus (and I don't even like it when Dan8267 makes goat jokes).

jazz music says

Music like this and even Steely Dan is kind of so impossibly good in a way it helped to spawn the punk rock scene because the kids coming up didn't have shit they could do to make any kind of a splash by comparison.

I think that is very true. Young musicians simply had to go in a different direction, and punk was it. Or they could have done like Dire Straits, and gone back to some incredible basics. But that took enormous skill, too.

Ironman says

Stock Market Gained $2T in Wealth Since Trump Elected

wait until the libs come in to tell you that the $2T doesn't mean anything until you sell.

Remember Guernica!

Did you forget to thank Obama? Stocks gained an average of 12%/year for his 8 years in the Oval office.

http://fortune.com/2017/01/20/thanksobama-heres-how-stocks-did-during-obamas-presidency/

Did someone say grimace?

www.youtube.com/embed/QJUIzfmJvfs

he forgot to wipe...

rando says

I'm quite happy with that kind of return, especially since my principal is also up more than 15% from where I bought in.

I'm curious - what % of your liquid net worth did you invest in this single stock?

"The previous high in the DOW was 13,900 before Obama came into office. It took until Jan. of 2013 just to gain that back and break even at 13,900. So the only gain or growth came AFTER that point (which is into Obama's SECOND term (and a Repub Congress))."

So what? We're talking about how the market performed UNDER OBAMA.

"Now, as I pointed out before, that gain came at the expense of over $4 TRILLION dollars of printed money and over another $5 TRILLION tacked onto the National Debt."

And it's no different under Trump.

How many jobs has he created minus the 1300 Carrier jobs he sent to Mexico?
All these new high paying jobs have allowed workers to invest. The market will never fall again.
trump! trump! trump!
joeyjojojunior says

"Now, as I pointed out before, that gain came at the expense of over $4 TRILLION dollars of printed money and over another $5 TRILLION tacked onto the National Debt."

trump will stop the printing or typing virtual money into existence & eliminate the natl. debt.

U.S.A.! MAGA! U.S.A.! MAGA!

By the #'s
Rating
Reward B Good
Risk D+ Weak

Rating Factors
Growth Fair
Efficiency Excellent
Solvency Good
Total Return Weak
Volatility Weak
Dividend Excellent

"You got caught in ANOTHER one of your lies.... that's what??"

No, I didn't, you moron. Once again you don't know what the hell you are talking about. What I posted was 100% correct.

"Really??? Can you point me to the data that says we printed $4 TRILLION dollars the last 5 days and added $5 Trillion to the debt?"

Can you show me where he's cut any spending? Otherwise, I'd say he's spending exactly the same as Obama did.

"Really?? Can you point me to the congressional bill that he signed the last few days that outlines all this increased spending?"

Increased? You mean Obama wasn't spending that much?

"Seriously dude, you really need some mental health treatment?? How are you going to survive the next four years??"

I'm laughing. Even in poor mental health, I have no problem shedding you to bits.

"See, here's your issue, you cherry pick a snap shot in time to try and prove your point"

Cherry pick a snap shot??!?? Are you fucking kidding me?? I'm looking at how the stock market performed while Obama was President That's not cherry picking. That's not a snapshot. That is the entire time when he was President of the United States..

Those aren't allies, those were recipients to the midnight window at the American worker and tax payer's expense.
If the world needs help kicking someone's ass, We will still be the first person they call. We have more guns.

What does it mean "replace USA with China"?
Are they going to send illegals to China?
Are they going to send finished goods to China?

Tim Aurora says

First it was TPP ( Japan, Austrailia which are key Washington allies). Now it is Mexico. All will replace USA with China and that leaves a maor headache for future presidents to deal with.

Why do we give a fuck about this again?

You people and Trump do not understand the importance of trade.

Trump is dead wrong on this point.

www.youtube.com/embed/AbuQx_O9Atw

www.youtube.com/embed/DMNvBedOxH4

Timmy you do realize that before Trump there was no "This President" and the "Last President" or the "President before that".
There was just one cohesive establishment NWO set up by Bush Sr. that every President until now was rigged and destined to win by the establishment.
Every election since Reagan before this last one was purely bogus. Thanks to Twitter, and Trump knowing how to Marshall key people to the right regions to squash and quell any election fraud attempts.

Bush Sr. tried to have Reagan killed so he could conduct his Cash for Guns Iran/Contra operation as the commander in chief.
But then Ronnie got Alzheimer and he let him live. Clinton was selected to run against him just in case. Just as Edwards was chosen to run against Bush, then Obama and McCain were hand selected. Nice and easy no surprises.

Until Sarah Palin went off script and what Presidential campaign have you ever seen where the Party leadership the co-candidate and the establishment pundits all savagely destroyed that person to the detriment of their own campaign to suppress her going off message. Which was a more hardline stance than the token space filler McCain was running on. Still to this day McCain does damage control on the establishment. He hates Trump for doing what he was supposed to do in 2008.

Tim Aurora says

USA cannot fight the world. We need allies like everybody else.

What does not agreeing to bad trade deals(ask Michigan about NAFTA), have to do with losing allies? And what does any of this have to do with war? You seem to be making some VERY broad assumptions.

Yeah, the idea that free trade with Australia and Japan is baaaaaad is definitely puzzling. I bet most of people thought that TPP was about free trade with China. Obama's admin did very poor job explaining what the fuck TPP was.