Thinking about this, there is incredible risk to Aircraft safety. If a person can pay a AA loader at the AP, then can they brush up against the hydraulic fluid lines? Can they disconnect the electrical lines going to the aileorons?
The desire for drugs, and the con-commitment human threats to safety cannot be understated.
Verily I tell you that while the Filipino president is no doubt killing innocent people, at the end of the day drugs are at the tip of much of the violence, murder, overdose, humanities concentrate, democratism, petty and grandtheft, dropping out of school, homelessness, addition, disease.
Drugs, especially concentrated drugs are the work of the devil.
And yet marijuana is basically harmless. Certainly less harmful than alcohol. That one should be legal for sure. Not too sure about cocaine. People will really fuck themselves up with that.
Al-Qeada financed by a wealthy disenfranchised heir of an oil Barron, funded the Taliban, who's resume read "largest narcotics manufacturer and dealer in the world". Without the funding from illicit drug use, 9/11 would not have happened.
Getting stoned must provide a high that is so desirable, so important, that the national, global security is well worth the momentary feeling that this high creates. Its so worth having a herion epidemic that ruins families. Its so worth having drug cartels that infithrate police departments, run towns, and murder dealers, their family members, and if they attend a funeral, the opposing cartel goes to the family members house after the funeral and kills them. Yeh, the high is great, and must be worth terror and drug addiction. Was in Portland recently, people all stoned looking like they just got back from Woodstock. Devils!
F _ _ _ me, I would rather go fly fishing - but what do I know?
Glad we don't have a prescription drug problem!
No Republican would be part(investing in or working for) of a
drug company that makes concentrated drugs.
They would never let any drug ,legal or illegal,run rampant & destroy american lives.
There is no drug problem under djt! MAGA!
Why would anyone insinuate there is a problem?
See if you can be alearnin' today.
" In the US, by comparison, more than 14,000 people died in 2014 from prescription opioid overdoses alone."
"Portugal's current drug-induced death rate, three per million residents, is more than five times lower than the
European Union's average of 17.3, according to EU figures."
Pay taxes to private prisons to lock up drug offenders.
No taxes no prisons!
You like taxes but not solutions.
Smugglers aren't carrying a ton of drugs in backpacks when they cross the Rio Grande on foot.
They're using cars and trucks. And those have a helluva time climbing walls.
Where do you think cars and trucks are crossing the border now? In the middle of the desert? They are driving right through customs day in and day out. More than a few are carrying illegals.
Have you ever been to south texas or southern nm? If you had you would know the idea of a wall across the area is just idiocy. There are hundreds of miles where the road isn't within 50 miles of the boarder. It's like 100 miles of really crappy dirt road from alpine to terlinga ( a ghost town) then there are no roads at all through big bend park to the border. There are real no roads at all east from terlinga to langtry for 150 miles. Just dirt tracks. From terlinga west to ft hancock is fm 170 for 200 miles with some ghost towns and a couple really tiny towns of a couple dozen people I explored big bend a few times when I was living down there. It's more remote than anyplace in the continental US and even a great deal of alaska. Where the heck are people working the wall going to live and how do they get to work every day?
No one is crossing in these area's. There is no place to come from on the mexican side and no where to go to on the US side. It's just desert. They are coming across in Tijuana, Nogalas, Juarez, Laredo, and Reynosa where there are roads to get to and across the border.
The wall isn't going to stop the 40% of illegals that fly in. Overstays are a bigger problem than entry without inspection (boarder crossers).
And how exactly cheaper, more easily available drugs lead to "less people hooked on drugs"?
Where did anyone say anything about cheaper more easily available drugs. Drugs are still illegal and drug dealing is a crime. Drugs were decriminalized. If you don't have distribution quantities then you get sent to a discussion counsel if you are caught. They can decide it you need further counselling or not. The reason less people are hooked on drugs is that the money spent arresting people and having them sit in jail was redirected to counselling and drug treatment. The only way to win the war on drugs is to eliminate the demand. No one will ever eliminate the supply. That has always failed and will always fail.
After 50 years and billions of dollars spent on the war on drugs the US has literally nothing to show for it. Drugs are more prevalent than ever. When will the US start seeing results do you think?
Drugs are still illegal and drug dealing is a crime.
So they are still trying to make drugs less accessible then. Tighter control of the borders aims at the same. Catch some at the border and catch some of the rest on the streets. Why are you against tighter border control again?
And yet marijuana is basically harmless. Certainly less harmful than alcohol. That one should be legal for sure. Not too sure about cocaine. People will really fuck themselves up with that.
I see Trump is still repeating the lie that the Wall will stop drugs from entering the country. Lolol, well the Trumpcucks are parroting the same nonsense. It's obvious that these people are talking out their ass and have zero clue how markets work. If you do nothing to curtail demand or supply, you do nothing to effect the flow. Actually, the wall could lead to more drugs, if it raises the price, then it raise the desire of people to bring them here.
I was going to ask @T_Lips this question but I see it was already asked and he's still hiding from it.
Where do you think cars and trucks are crossing the border now? In the middle of the desert? They are driving right through customs day in and day out. More than a few are carrying illegals.
Where do you think cars and trucks are crossing the border now? In the middle of the desert? They are driving right through customs day in and day out. More than a few are carrying illegals.
They DO cross in the middle of the desert. The Rio Grande is fordable in many places. Yes, many of the drugs are smuggled in in NAFTA trucks coming along highways. Previous admins have emphasized no hurty the cheap imports over catching illegals and drugs. The fewer manned patrols necessary, and the harder it is to cross outside of checkpoints, the more resources can be spent on searching vehicles at checkpoints.
So are you still claiming that The Wall will stem the flow of drugs into our country?
Since Jericho, thousands of years ago, walls have been used successfully to control human traffic. That's a helluva track record. Saying the walls don't control traffic is like saying roads don't assist travel.
I'm old enough to remember when Nancy said no to Quaalude, at the time they were as common on the streets as aspirin.
Within two weeks of her saying she will stop it, it was gone could not be found anywhere not even as a novelty.
Of course we now now that was because Quaaludes would have messed up their plans to get everyone hooked on Crack.
A drug that keeps people up for three days straight steeling shit to fuel the addiction. Where as quaaludes made people sleep for three days straight.
Ronny and Herbert needed some real money, to fund Osama Bin Obama and everything else that has come along with it.
Trump can and will wipe out the Dynasty of the last 4 nasty cocksucers. And will be revered by future Historians as the greatest President since George Washington.
And he'll take out their Dark Drug Money laundry fueled covert and psyops operation along with it.
SO no future Kenyan or Skull and Bones alumni can ever pull this shit again.
I can't recommend the Men's journal article linked above more. You realize the huge financing the Cartels have, to pay scouts every few miles a 100 miles deep into US territory, to be willing to abandon expensive German radios than risk capture of a low-level operative, to leave caches of Jeans, Snacks, and Tents - purchased at Walmart, retail - for the grunts.
Anybody who thinks an outfit like that doesn't control the Mexican Government at all levels is nuts.
Also makes you wonder where they store all the cash. It can't possibly all be in cash, so which banks are knowingly laundering the money.
Mexico finally admitted they couldn't keep El Chapo locked up with their government as infiltrated as it is, so they extradited him to the US. He comes with 15 billion in seized drug money. Teddy Cruz wants to use that to build the wall. Ironic if the drug money gets used to build a wall to keep drug dealers out.
Personally I think we ought to just annex Mexico and make it great again. They have some wonderful places there which would be very popular with many Americans if the country could be rescued from its civil war.
So if you think that it is some noble goal, to block the flow of drugs into this country, why not start with the low hanging fruit first? Why are you not advocating a return of alcohol prohibition in the U.S.?
So if you think that it is some noble goal, to block the flow of drugs into this country, why not start with the low hanging fruit first? Why are you not advocating a return of alcohol prohibition in the U.S.?
It wouldn't matter to me if they were smuggling pet rocks or bic disposable pens. A country has to control it's border. A country as wealthy as ours has no excuses. It is big business and banks that want the illegal workers and illegal cash flowing.
The border wall would be financed at less than 1% of the Federal Budget.
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Thinking about this, there is incredible risk to Aircraft safety. If a person can pay a AA loader at the AP, then can they brush up against the hydraulic fluid lines? Can they disconnect the electrical lines going to the aileorons?
The desire for drugs, and the con-commitment human threats to safety cannot be understated.
Verily I tell you that while the Filipino president is no doubt killing innocent people, at the end of the day drugs are at the tip of much of the violence, murder, overdose, humanities concentrate, democratism, petty and grandtheft, dropping out of school, homelessness, addition, disease.
Drugs, especially concentrated drugs are the work of the devil.
And yet marijuana is basically harmless. Certainly less harmful than alcohol. That one should be legal for sure. Not too sure about cocaine. People will really fuck themselves up with that.
Reading this US Senate Report, it appears that 9/11 was made possible by Drug Dealer / Terrorists.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-108shrg90052/pdf/CHRG-108shrg90052.pdf
They want to sell Drugs to obtain all sorts of weapons, look at what Joe Biden says on page 3.
Al-Qeada financed by a wealthy disenfranchised heir of an oil Barron, funded the Taliban, who's resume read "largest narcotics manufacturer and dealer in the world". Without the funding from illicit drug use, 9/11 would not have happened.
Getting stoned must provide a high that is so desirable, so important, that the national, global security is well worth the momentary feeling that this high creates. Its so worth having a herion epidemic that ruins families. Its so worth having drug cartels that infithrate police departments, run towns, and murder dealers, their family members, and if they attend a funeral, the opposing cartel goes to the family members house after the funeral and kills them. Yeh, the high is great, and must be worth terror and drug addiction. Was in Portland recently, people all stoned looking like they just got back from Woodstock. Devils!
F _ _ _ me, I would rather go fly fishing - but what do I know?
If I were going to smuggle drugs in, I'd use a submarine or boat.
Smugglers aren't carrying a ton of drugs in backpacks when they cross the Rio Grande on foot.
They're using cars and trucks. And those have a helluva time climbing walls.
Glad we don't have a prescription drug problem!
No Republican would be part(investing in or working for) of a
drug company that makes concentrated drugs.
They would never let any drug ,legal or illegal,run rampant & destroy american lives.
There is no drug problem under djt! MAGA!
Why would anyone insinuate there is a problem?
See if you can be alearnin' today.
" In the US, by comparison, more than 14,000 people died in 2014 from prescription opioid overdoses alone."
"Portugal's current drug-induced death rate, three per million residents, is more than five times lower than the
European Union's average of 17.3, according to EU figures."
Pay taxes to private prisons to lock up drug offenders.
No taxes no prisons!
You like taxes but not solutions.
https://news.vice.com/article/ungass-portugal-what-happened-after-decriminalization-drugs-weed-to-heroin
PCGyver says
Like what: paying you a "basic income" so you can sit around and snort gubmint-provided cocaine?
PCGyver says
What is your idea then?
PCGyver says
Elaborate. And what is the proof of "victory"?
T L Lipsovich says
Where do you think cars and trucks are crossing the border now? In the middle of the desert? They are driving right through customs day in and day out. More than a few are carrying illegals.
Have you ever been to south texas or southern nm? If you had you would know the idea of a wall across the area is just idiocy. There are hundreds of miles where the road isn't within 50 miles of the boarder. It's like 100 miles of really crappy dirt road from alpine to terlinga ( a ghost town) then there are no roads at all through big bend park to the border. There are real no roads at all east from terlinga to langtry for 150 miles. Just dirt tracks. From terlinga west to ft hancock is fm 170 for 200 miles with some ghost towns and a couple really tiny towns of a couple dozen people I explored big bend a few times when I was living down there. It's more remote than anyplace in the continental US and even a great deal of alaska. Where the heck are people working the wall going to live and how do they get to work every day?
No one is crossing in these area's. There is no place to come from on the mexican side and no where to go to on the US side. It's just desert. They are coming across in Tijuana, Nogalas, Juarez, Laredo, and Reynosa where there are roads to get to and across the border.
The wall isn't going to stop the 40% of illegals that fly in. Overstays are a bigger problem than entry without inspection (boarder crossers).
PCGyver says
Were is the proof of that? And how exactly cheaper, more easily available drugs lead to "less people hooked on drugs"?
Where the heck are people working the wall going to live and how do they get to work every day
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Straw Man says
Straw Man says
Where did anyone say anything about cheaper more easily available drugs. Drugs are still illegal and drug dealing is a crime. Drugs were decriminalized. If you don't have distribution quantities then you get sent to a discussion counsel if you are caught. They can decide it you need further counselling or not. The reason less people are hooked on drugs is that the money spent arresting people and having them sit in jail was redirected to counselling and drug treatment. The only way to win the war on drugs is to eliminate the demand. No one will ever eliminate the supply. That has always failed and will always fail.
After 50 years and billions of dollars spent on the war on drugs the US has literally nothing to show for it. Drugs are more prevalent than ever. When will the US start seeing results do you think?
bob2356 says
So they are still trying to make drugs less accessible then. Tighter control of the borders aims at the same. Catch some at the border and catch some of the rest on the streets. Why are you against tighter border control again?
rando says
Are you speaking from first hand experience?
I see Trump is still repeating the lie that the Wall will stop drugs from entering the country. Lolol, well the Trumpcucks are parroting the same nonsense. It's obvious that these people are talking out their ass and have zero clue how markets work. If you do nothing to curtail demand or supply, you do nothing to effect the flow. Actually, the wall could lead to more drugs, if it raises the price, then it raise the desire of people to bring them here.
I was going to ask @T_Lips this question but I see it was already asked and he's still hiding from it.
Where do you think cars and trucks are crossing the border now? In the middle of the desert? They are driving right through customs day in and day out. More than a few are carrying illegals.
bob2356 says
They DO cross in the middle of the desert. The Rio Grande is fordable in many places. Yes, many of the drugs are smuggled in in NAFTA trucks coming along highways. Previous admins have emphasized no hurty the cheap imports over catching illegals and drugs. The fewer manned patrols necessary, and the harder it is to cross outside of checkpoints, the more resources can be spent on searching vehicles at checkpoints.
Horses can't climb or jump a 20' wall.
http://www.abc15.com/news/region-central-southern-az/tucson/suspected-drug-smugglers-on-horseback-caught-riding-through-arizona-desert
"The wall won't stop ALL drugs." is like saying "Since painkillers won't stop ALL the pain, we're not giving you any so so enjoy your suffering."
or
"Since investigators don't find and arrest all murderers, we shouldn't bother with homicide investigators at all."
So are you still claiming that The Wall will stem the flow of drugs into our country?
errc says
Since Jericho, thousands of years ago, walls have been used successfully to control human traffic. That's a helluva track record. Saying the walls don't control traffic is like saying roads don't assist travel.
Note I did not say eliminate.
Wonder why these guys didn't stick to the highway.
http://www.businessinsider.com/drug-smugglers-rescued-arizona-maricopa-desert-2013-6
Read this. They're not crossing at a checkpoint. Rape trees, skulls, and bandits raiding the drug mules - all on the US Side.
http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/the-u-s-mexico-borders-150-miles-of-hell-20130103
I'm old enough to remember when Nancy said no to Quaalude, at the time they were as common on the streets as aspirin.
Within two weeks of her saying she will stop it, it was gone could not be found anywhere not even as a novelty.
Of course we now now that was because Quaaludes would have messed up their plans to get everyone hooked on Crack.
A drug that keeps people up for three days straight steeling shit to fuel the addiction. Where as quaaludes made people sleep for three days straight.
Ronny and Herbert needed some real money, to fund Osama Bin Obama and everything else that has come along with it.
Trump can and will wipe out the Dynasty of the last 4 nasty cocksucers. And will be revered by future Historians as the greatest President since George Washington.
And he'll take out their Dark Drug Money laundry fueled covert and psyops operation along with it.
SO no future Kenyan or Skull and Bones alumni can ever pull this shit again.
I can't recommend the Men's journal article linked above more. You realize the huge financing the Cartels have, to pay scouts every few miles a 100 miles deep into US territory, to be willing to abandon expensive German radios than risk capture of a low-level operative, to leave caches of Jeans, Snacks, and Tents - purchased at Walmart, retail - for the grunts.
Anybody who thinks an outfit like that doesn't control the Mexican Government at all levels is nuts.
Also makes you wonder where they store all the cash. It can't possibly all be in cash, so which banks are knowingly laundering the money.
Mexico finally admitted they couldn't keep El Chapo locked up with their government as infiltrated as it is, so they extradited him to the US. He comes with 15 billion in seized drug money. Teddy Cruz wants to use that to build the wall. Ironic if the drug money gets used to build a wall to keep drug dealers out.
Personally I think we ought to just annex Mexico and make it great again. They have some wonderful places there which would be very popular with many Americans if the country could be rescued from its civil war.
So if you think that it is some noble goal, to block the flow of drugs into this country, why not start with the low hanging fruit first? Why are you not advocating a return of alcohol prohibition in the U.S.?
errc says
It wouldn't matter to me if they were smuggling pet rocks or bic disposable pens. A country has to control it's border. A country as wealthy as ours has no excuses. It is big business and banks that want the illegal workers and illegal cash flowing.
The border wall would be financed at less than 1% of the Federal Budget.