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jazz music says

@Dan8267 feel this

I don't question the motives, but rather the effectiveness of activism. Symbolic gestures mean nothing. Policy is all that matters.

Even if a partial lists wins the petition, won't those leftie judges and the 9th circuit just deem it unconstitutional?

lostand confused says

Even if a partial lists wins the petition, won't those leftie judges and the 9th circuit just deem it unconstitutional?

The solution is to replace the conservative left and the conservative right judges and politicians with liberals. Until that happens, government will suck.

Dan8267 says

lostand confused says

Even if a partial lists wins the petition, won't those leftie judges and the 9th circuit just deem it unconstitutional?

The solution is to replace the conservative left and the conservative right judges and politicians with liberals. Until that happens, government will suck.

The reason these obscene payment obligations have been broadly supported by politicians of either side is that it relieves government from welfare payments in many cases and it keeps the authoritarian government clamp tight around you. You need small government/personal liberty minded people (libertarians) in that case in charge, who can make these decisions because they are just from an ethical standpoint even if it would mean more financial burden on their district/state or on the federal level.

This won't pass in CA, too many liberals will scream all whine all day long.

MAking the process fair would help everyone. Not everyone who is on the hook for child support and alimony is a man. My sister pays around $1500/month to her deadbeat ex for those things.
Considering that women are now twice as likely to be educated as men, they are much more likely to be primary breadwinners.
A more equitable process is better for all.

How about opt-out clause for unmarried men in the case of a pregnancy? Or at least some limit of financial obligation (or is that what you mean by using median income as max payout calculation).

Additions, none, deletions, the entire system. All family problems that cannot be resolved civilly are brought to an arbitrator to resolve. Minimal arbitrator fee, and no one gets shit for not keeping their family together.

> Any additions or deletions you'd like to see?

Current state of affairs treats children from subsequent relationships as second class citizens (hello feudalism and primogeniture). In case of subsequent children, original child support needs to be adjusted.

rando says

The late Turtledove (who was wife number two) was quite angry at wife number one for her continued exploitation of her husband.

I miss Turtledove. She was one of the good guys on PatNet.

If you can convince them, all that blather seems like a good way to sucker punch your enemies so you can fuck them in the ass.

There are websites for companies who do just this (rent virtual offices). Check their rates.

nice little pop today, I love volatility when I'm on the right side of the trade . . .

no kids or even nephews/nieces

I've got a Nissan Leaf as a daily driver now so I'm doing my part to save the world for future generations -- and I don't buy a lot of crap so my CO2 footprint is quite small.

As long as we don't get too many more of those rainless years in a row (that last one was getting close to killing all the trees here in my ville, and it certainly fucked over the pine forests in the Sierras quite badly) I'll be OK until I check out in 2050 or whenever.

jazz music says

And so on. That's what civilized people are like ... Reading Pickwick and learning a speech from Faust by heart is not enough if your aim is to become a truly civilized person and not to sink below the level of your surroundings.""

[From a letter to Nikolay Chekhov, March 1886]

― Anton Chekhov, A Life in Letters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Chekhov

More Utopian BS that does not exist in any society.

jazz music says

Strategist says

More Utopian BS that does not exist

Like coal industry jobs and really great health coverage? No, not at all.

Coal industry jobs should be eliminated. We don't want pollution.
Health coverage sucks.
Technology will solve all human problems except problems caused by humans.

jazz music says

Strategist says

Technology will solve all human problems ...

More Utopian BS that does not exist in any society.

So what will solve all human problems?
Religion?
Communism?
Education?

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

No surprise the SUCK! MY! DICK!, AMERICA! campaign became the SUCK! MY! DICK!, AMERICA! administration.

I'm a little surprised. Who knew America had so many people in to that sort of thing ?

jazz music says

Since USA became afflicted with accelerating inequality we have fallen far from the heights we achieved when the world looked up to us instead of belly-laughed.

jazz music says

a balance between the tensions of economy and societal benefit must be weighed and implemented without the interference of government capture by the investor class.

Thank you for getting back to the essential point. Almost everything in the press is mere distraction. Racism, Russia, trans-bathrooms, even terrorism.

The only thing they really don't want us to talk about is how and why the Democrats became the party of elitists rather than working people. Now we have two parties representing the rich, and no party for the rest of us.

Trump, for all his faults, is our only representation outside of the two-identical-party system.

jazz music says

@Strategist You already know the answer to your own question, but you deny it because you feel smug like you have run the rat race and beaten most other people. But ok I'll play your game here right now just because in this case even the obvious is better said in no uncertain terms.

Your implications are not fair. Yes, I did well in life not because of winning the lotto, but....
Common sense
Sacrifice
Education
Hard work
It's no secret, anyone can do it.

jazz music says

Education? yes.

Enlightenment? Of course but more like awakening to the increasingly painfully obvious reality that shareholder value is not an ultimate measure of merit, but rather a balance between the tensions of economy and societal benefit must be weighed and implemented without the interference of government capture by the investor class.

What are you talking about? You keep blaming others. How about common sense, education, hard work, and sacrifice that I already mentioned? It's no secret formula that those who do well have all those points.
Take the example of lotto winners. 80% of them fritter away everything they win, and are back to where they were in 2 years. You think people like them who have no ability to keep their wealth, have an ability to make wealth? No, they are doomed to perennial failure because the lack what it takes to be successful. Don't blame the capitalist system for the lack of common sense most people have.

Trump, for all his faults, is our only representation outside of the two-identical-party system.

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You guys got the government you deserved. All the way Republican. This is 2001 all over again!

The lefties are going to rue the day they picked the Russian conspiracy. They are increasingly sounding like bgamall4- no wonder he does not post-he is normal now-he can just go talk to a crowd of lefties and be perfectly normal.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

When Will Trump Host Toddler T-Ball Games Like the Last Retarded GOP President, George W Bush?

I'm surprised he hasn't already. It's a great opportunity to grab that sweet, succulent MILF pussy.

Trump is too busy grabbing middle aged white guys buy the pussy. They seem to respond best to it.

Stick to your knitting, Trump and Trumpkins

Trump could only sponsor, he couldn't make the T-ball team.

Already covered in this thread:
/1304686/2017-04-04-justice-department-warns-companies-not-to-discriminate-against-us-workers

Maybe they realize the people don't care what they think.

• a person may be employed as a computer programmer and may use information technology skills and knowledge to help an enterprise achieve its goals in the course of his or her job is not sufficient to establish the position as a specialty occupation. Thus, a petitioner may not rely solely on the Handbook to meet its burden when seeking to sponsor a beneficiary for a computer programmer position. Instead, a petitioner must provide other evidence to establish that the particular position is one in a specialty occupation as defined by 8 CFR 214.2(h)(4)(ii) that also meets one of the criteria at
• Accordingly, USCIS officers must also review the LCA to ensure the wage level designated by the petitioner corresponds to the proffered position. If a petitioner designates a position as a Level I, entry-level position, for example, such an assertion will likely contradict a claim that the proffered position is particularly complex, specialized, or unique compared to other positions within the same occupation.
• Officers are also reminded that USCIS does not bear the burden of establishing that a particular position does not qualify as a specialty occupation. Instead, the petitioner bears the burden of establishing eligibility for the benefit sought. Section 291 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. § 1361. Accordingly, USCIS officers may not approve a petition based on inconclusive statements from the Handbook about the entry-level requirements for a given occupation. Rather, the petitioner bears the burden to submit probative evidence from objective and authoritative sources that the proffered position qualifies as an H-1B specialty occupation.

The noose is just starting to tighten on Obama admin. Trump is a master.

Ironman says

If that was the case, why hasn't he been given immunity yet?

Jesus Christ. He's referring to the fact that both Trump and Flynn are on video stating that people who ask for immunity are guilty. They repeated it gleefully when they were talking about somebody else. Now, that Flynn has asked for immunity, they are singing a different tune. That's what Tim was talking about.

This narrative is about providing your team with something to be excited about. You click all of the links trying to find some evidence to prove your side of the story correct. It's generating lots of revenue for the blogs.

Rice has some 'splaining to do, but the real story remains Trump and the investigation of potential deals with Russia.

Should this focus strictly on FAMILY LAW reform, or is it worth broadening the scope a bit to include Men's Rights issues like false rape accusations going unprosecuted?

> Most petitions in California consist of people signing at supermarkets but I think we can invent an entirely new distribution system via YouTube, Reddit, 4chan, and other alternative media. Petition pages can be mailed or possibly even emailed for a single signature. However due to apathy among California voters, NOW is the time because the signature requirements have never been lower.

Firsthand experience with these. Make no mistake, we'll get about 85,000 signatures through single send-ins and volunteer gatherers. That means 1/2 million PAID signatures needed.

Reality: It will take $1M to get on the ballot, and several more if/when we do.

Automan Empire says

Reality: It will take $1M to get on the ballot, and several more if/when we do

That is like 1 year of what Charlie sheen used to pay in child support. i think you can get it!

After 8 months of investigations-there is no proof. However it appears the President spied on his political opponent-this is dangerous terrirtory.

Ironman says

Yes, that's the ONLY reason why someone would ask for immunity, because they're guilty... right?

No. Of course there are other reasons to ask for immunity. Thanks for admitting that Trump and Flynn were lying throughout the campaign. Please attend some ESL classes or something to try to improve your comprehension.

Are you really this ignorant, or do you just misinterpret everything to troll people? Some models are good, but produce a bad output, because someone puts garbage into the model. You could have perfect data as an input, and you would produce garbage output, because your logic circuit is fried.

lostand confused says

After 8 months of investigations-there is no proof.

I love how you extended that same logic to Hillary. I also love how you demand proof (100%?) that Trump did something wrong, yet are happy to hang Obama on appearances (whatever that qualifies as such) in the next sentence.

Of course, the United States never interferes in the politics of sovereign nations. After all, we are the good guys!

YesYNot says

I love how you extended that same logic to Hillary.

With Hilalry we actually got documents-aka the smoking gun-from wikileaks. With Trump where are the docs??????

Many oBama folks are actually saying there is no evidence of collusion, plenty of leaks-but where is the documents/leaks that shows the collusion????????????????

Tim Aurora says

Susan Rice not only didn’t do anything wrong, she did exactly what we would expect of a national security adviser.

What!? A national security official asking for information from a security council and White House sources? Unheard of!

(Psssst! Don't tell Trump he can do this! When he finds out he can request all this stuff as the President, and the implications building against him and his administration, well ... he will be able to defend himself from what is coming more ... SHHHHhhhhhh. Quiet!)

Get the leakers!
How dare Susan try and defend our government!

You guys are mistaking the legal system for some kind of common sense.

I read an account about a lawyer who left family law, because he said the divorce bar gets together every year for no other ostensible purpose except to make the proceedings more needlessly complicated, expensive, interminable, and adversarial.

Why would they take any measures that would make gouging the marital estate less difficult and arbitrary? Accusing men of molesting children is pretty much standard operating procedure in order to increase the acrimoniousness of the proceedings. Lawyers have a license to libel and slander, it's the way they get the ball rolling, and they are never really punished, the consequences fall on their clients while they walk away with the dough.