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I read through the discussions and i think it is all speculations from different angle.

My thinking is that the price/rent is now 30.
In 2009, it was 15.

Above are valuation numbers without any sleculatikn on future state/feseral policies/plannings or money flow on international or rich/poor/serf/elite.

I will be a buyer when that number gets to 20 or so. I will sell when that number hits 40 in CA.

Strategist says

there is no reason why Hawaii, California, Florida and the Caribbean

I've been looking at Hawaiian condos as well. I've got a pal who makes a killing on vacation rentals which are pretty easy to manage remotely via VBRO.

For those interested, here's some govt CA population projections http://www.dof.ca.gov/Forecasting/Demographics/projections/
This http://www.dof.ca.gov/Forecasting/Demographics/projections/documents/P1_County.xlsx shows they expect about 25% overall state pop increase 2020 through 2060.

but...
About 32% in Alameda, Contra Costa, & San Francisco counties
18% San Mateo & Santa Cruz county
39% Santa Clara & Solano counties
46% San Joaquin county
43% Sacramento county
58% Merced & Yolo counties
37% Stanislaus county

wow@santa clara. where will they build....gilroy? lots of multi unit housing in the urban areas?

looks like the eavesdropper's info matches this. there's a lot of expected growth in the area between the bay and sacramento.

just_passing_through says

I've got a pal who makes a killing on vacation rentals which are pretty easy to manage remotely via VBRO.

please elaborate on how much a killing is :p

First Hillary won because the polls proved that she was walking away with the vote.

Then Hillary lost because Comey made public new allegations on an associates husbands computer. Comey made her lose.

Then Hillary lost because she did not reach out to the working class that lost jobs but supported Obama. The working class who are unemployed made her lose.

Then Hillary lost because of hacking the DNC was exposed by Wikileaks. Russia and Wikileaks made her lose.

Then Hillary lost because because many of her base thought that she was too close to banking lobbyists. Those against paid bank speeches made her lose.

Then Hillary may have aced out Bernie in an unfair primary. Those who liked Bernie made her lose.

Then Hillary did not chose Bernie as a running mate. The failure to pick the candidate that could capture more votes made her lose.

Then Hillary picked a running mate that was seen as a big time lawyer, but did poorly in debates. The performance of the VP candidate made her lose.

I think only Trump himself can provide the clarity the American people need. Anything else would look like hiding.

;)

goat says

please elaborate on how much a killing is :p

Okay, well, 'killing' may be a bit of an exaggeration but I'd take it and hold it for 30 years expecting it to get much better:

He bought a two bedroom condo steps away from a sea wall 2 years ago for 650K. It appreciated 80K - just sold it for that much more this week. On leases he grossed ~100K and netted ~40K yearly.

He bought it 2 years after the 40 year sea wall was rebuilt so didn't expect any large assessments in the near term.

He's a real estate broker and lawyer here in SD. He wanted to get the cash back out of it because he thinks the stock market is about to crash and wants to take advantage of that. Then buy back into the Hawaii market. If I were him I would have kept that place.

just_passing_through says

He bought a two bedroom condo steps away from a sea wall 2 years ago for 650K. It appreciated 80K - just sold it for that much more this week. On leases he grossed ~100K and netted ~40K yearly.

If by net you mean after mortgage, taxes, property management, house cleaning, and whatever else....damn that really is great.

I took a quick peek at vrbo and judging by the availability calendar of a few units I looked at, it looks like most rentals in HI are booking 80-90% of the days per month. Looks like a very effective marketing platform....it's cheap too.

That's badasss ....

"...Trump must either provide the tapes to Congress or admit he made them up."

Blood in the water!

goat says

If by net you mean after mortgage, taxes, property management, house cleaning, and whatever else

Yup, that's what I mean. The cool factor is you have a frigin condo to go visit as a tax write off as well! His place was in a small building, sort of homey. Maybe 15 or 20 units? Initially he let the building management handle things but they did a crappy job getting high leases and charged 30%. He took it over with VRBO and got to know the building maintenance guy who did side work for him on the cheap.

His cleaning fees are part of the leasing contract: An extra $175

The VRBO app automatically notifies the cleaning service when guests check out.

its nonsense grandstanding and you know it.

CBOEtrader says

its nonsense grandstanding and you know it.

Wait, isn't that what Comey got fired for?

just_passing_through says

The cool factor is you have a frigin condo to go visit as a tax write off as well!

haha ya, I was just thinking about how cool it would be to just fly out there and use it if you had a few days you couldn't book, but write it off as business expenses :p

Trump ending press conferences reminds me of those that Ban others on websites,CHILDISH!

I believe Trump was more interested in winning the race to be President, and he loved the idea of being President. But I don't think he ever gave much thought to what the job is or whether he was going to be capable of doing it, let alone whether he was very interested in doing the job.

Maybe he would like to be impeached sooner rather than later. If that happens he can cry foul, that he got screwed over by the elite, and maybe start a hugely profitable right wing media outlet.

Whereas if he stays for years, there will be so many of these crazy stories with his infantile reactions and drama, that he will go down in history as the biggest joke of a President ever.

Patrick is munching on popcorn and smiling.

“Regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey. In fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.” -- Trump

If it is made up, let the investigation go. Now you need to appoint an independent investigator.

If Trump's finger prints are anywhere near the investigative process it is going to be disbelieved. Trump, FYI, your credibility is in the sewer. :)

Rew says

If it is made up, let the investigation go. Now you need to appoint an independent investigator.

It doesn't matter what you believe. The FBI director is the independent investigator.

That's what my pal does - but he does do some work on the place when he visits. Generally he goes in the 'off season' which starts right around now. His rates are variable and peak around the holidays.

Perhaps somewhat counter-intuitively the airlines drop prices right before he wants to leave rather than raising them the last two weeks. Or usually apparently. He also has an Alaska airlines credit card which lets him bring a friend or family member 1x per year for only $100. I think the card has an annual fee of $50 or $80 though.

How come the store employees just didn't break the glass and bring her down with the antipsychotic tranquilizer blunderbuss? They have those in Portland for a reason.

rando says

The important thing is that I'm greatly entertained by all of this. :-)

I think we all are. It's amazing! The books and movies that will come. Wow!

rando says

The important thing is that I'm greatly entertained by all of this. :-)

And ultimately, that is why Trump was elected. People found him entertaining and the media found he meant ratings.

www.youtube.com/embed/L-l6tHeseDY

Probably right. "W." is going to seem quaint.

That movie was far to kind to Bush.

Fucking bitch indeed.

Cbo has won this debate hands down

CBOEtrader says

how many investigations can you justify w zero evidence?

I don't know. Maybe we should time travel back to 1994 to find out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Starr

Bkah blah blah it says the same thing about classified emails on private mail servers and nobody gave a fuck.
How do you libbies like the lawlessness you fought so hard for with your illegal aliens and sanctuary cities?

On the one hand she's a special snowflake that needs to get over herself, and the flag should be a non issue. She doesn't have to shop there is it offends her. (which is the worst thing the guys should have said) . On the other had those guys were extremely rude and inappropriate to her, giving her the finger, calling her a bitch, and basically acting as if they are on Patrick.net.

She kind of is/was a bitch, but she's also a customer, that they proceeded to continue to knowingly antagonize her outside when she was almost gone. .

You know what ? There are people out there with far worse emotional issues than that lady, and when you work with the public, you don't intentionally antagonize such people becasue of emotional issues you identify. That's fucked up.

joeyjojojunior says

Sen. Grassley has not spoken to President Trump

This does not mean they disagree. It means they havent confirmed or denied anything. It means nothing.

Its almost as if you dont read these articles you post.

Wow, that's some serious Histrionic personality disorder. I read the description that the guy got some Confederate Flag rugs inside his "150 assorted rugs" delivery from the warehouse... and this chick saw them and flipped.

You hear about Laci Green? She got a little "Woke" from the Transgender arguments =Transracial arguments Paper Censorship. Also, apparently Anita Sarkesian is out of the Feminist Gamer BS.

www.youtube.com/embed/YgCqfXslVFQ

"The bell tolls for XE", hahahahahahaha

marcus says

She kind of is/was a bitch, but she's also a customer, that they proceeded to continue to knowingly antagonize her outside when she was almost gone. .

People are sick of this shit. She wasn't merely complaining or muttering, but berating people. Somebody that ill should not be babysitting children that goes around picking arguments. It's high time people like this get shut down, but they should have called the police to remove her, and possibly refer to CPS.

CBOEtrader says

This does not mean they disagree. It means they havent confirmed or denied anything. It means nothing.

Its almost as if you dont read these articles you post

No, on the contrary. What it means is that you have no idea if Trump is under investigation or not. So, it definitely is NOT a fact that he isn't under investigation.

I'm 100% correct. Again.

Good

joeyjojojunior says

CBOEtrader says

This does not mean they disagree. It means they havent confirmed or denied anything. It means nothing.

Its almost as if you dont read these articles you post

No, on the contrary. What it means is that you have no idea if Trump is under investigation or not. So, it definitely is NOT a fact that he isn't under investigation.

I'm 100% correct. Again.

Are you suggesting trump is under some double secret investigation? Um yeah I wouldn't know anything about that. Neither would you. By the same rationale I can't 100% rule out my dog as a target of FBI investigation.

Please share your evidence that trump is under investigation.

CBOEtrader says

Please share your evidence that trump is under investigation.

I have no idea if he's under investigation and neither do you. Comey has said the Trump campaign/Administration IS under investigation. And seeing as Trump is a part of the Trump campaign and Trump Administration, it's a LOT more likely Trump is under investigation than your dog.

The point is you and Lips keep saying that it's a fact that Trump isn't under investigation and that's a lie.

We are all under investigation and we are all not.
Glad you cleared that up...
joeyjojojunior says

No, on the contrary. What it means is that you have no idea if Trump is under investigation or not.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

People are sick of this shit.

So, what are you saying ? That if she had some emotional problems that people weren't so sick of they would have been better at deescalating the situation ? And simply gotten her out of the store without making themselves look bad (to many people that are going to see her video). No they wanted to trigger her, which is fine. But it's too easy.

They're trying too hard to be the next Hugh Mongous. But they don't know how to do it without being assholes.

BlueSardine says

We are all under investigation and we are all not.

Glad you cleared that up...

Are we all part of the Trump Administration?