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This was posted 8 minutes after I provided JJJ with multiple links to articles clearly refuting his stance. Should we assume JJJ read said articles, or simply did what JJJ always does, and talked out of his ass, while ignoring the data that hammers his OPINION to smithereens.

Your article was an opinion piece that refutes nothing. Because it's irrefutable. The states seceded over slavery. Period. Any other opinion is pure revisionist history.

I didn't talk out of my ass. I posted the actual secession letter which details why South Carolina was seceding. And surprise, surprise, it says ... because of slavery.

"JJJ also likes to add qualifiers to his opinion, like "clear" "100%" "no doubt"... this is a 100% clear admission of pure confirmation bias. No doubt"

Of course. When a state says they are seceding because of slavery, I tend to think it's clear with no doubt that they are actually seceding because of slavery.

A large part of Target's stock price reversal was due to their transgender policy. The data corroborates this.

Interesting back story on Mueller and Comey.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/18/james-comey-trump-special-prosecutor-robert-mueller-fbi-215154

Dan8267 says

FortWayne says

Yes you did

Oh, you want me to call your bullshit? OK. Quote and site where I advocated racial violence. If you don't, then we know you are lying like a scumbag.

You are no different than a SJW. Conservative left, conservative right, doesn't matter. Conservatives always lie. Facts don't matter. The truth doesn't matter. The ends always justify the means.

Dude you edited your post about us being slavers and the things society should do to us. Shame on you Dan. You don't even have the balls to stick to what you believe in.

They have zero political capital to work w. They wont be doing much of anything besides fighting the russian narrative. That isnt Trump's fault. As per Dennis Kucinich, this is pure deep state politcal hackery.

The 126 million voters have not demanded a new ass kicking Glass-Steagall.
I see these assholes didn't demand that the TBTF be shuttered & sold off by the FDIC & screw the stockholders.
These simpletons have not demanded transparency of their Big Govt./deep state.
They gave up America's privacy with the Patriot Act & NDAA.

So there is no misunderstanding, FUCK DEMOCRAT & REPUBLICAN VOTERS!

IOW Nobody gives a fuck...

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Why?

What did the other candidate have to say about Glass-Steagall?

Trump was NEVER going to ask for a new Glass Steagall. Anyone who believed he would do anything to reign in Wall St. is either very naïve or very dumb.

He's pretty good at getting paid without getting paid. This will not be the first suspicious real estate deal.

Holy Crap, Ryan backstabbing Trump, probably while quoting Ayn Rand as he nixed an amendment to defund a Corporate Subsidy.

Yep. It's funny, because it's true! ... Nervous laughter...
Turns out Rohrbacher is an unwitting idiot (definitely) and an unwitting agent (maybe). Also turns out that the FBI warned Rohrbacher that Russia was trying to recruit him years ago.

https://patrick.net/1306286/2017-05-18-wow-flynn-stalled-operations-to-arm-kurds-and-take-raqqa-while-taking-500k-from-turkey
https://patrick.net/1306266/2017-05-18-top-republicans-joking-back-in-june-2016-about-putin-paying-for-trump-s-campaign

How many arrows can one man fit on his fat ass?

Melanoma must have run up the charge cards again.

I also noticed the non-denial denial.

Comey's memo: Trump says that he hopes Comey can drop it.
Media reports: Trump pressured Comey to drop it (reasonable interpretation of direct quote)
Whitehouse: Trump never told Comey to stop the investigation.

Everybody told the truth! Amazing.
The thing is, if Trump and team cannot deny the contents of the memo, it most likely happened. They can cry fake news even though the facts are true. The only thing up for debate is the interpretation.

They are going to say that Obama started down the imprison journalist road by talking about charging Assange. It's pretty striking that Trump would ask for Comey to consider that. Even if he just told Comey to consider it, and he didn't direct him to do it.

YesYNot says

Comey's memo: Trump says that he hopes Comey can drop it.

Media reports: Trump pressured Comey to drop it (reasonable interpretation of direct quote)

Whitehouse: Trump never told Comey to stop the investigation.

Everybody told the truth! Amazing.

Wow, so we're good and there's no problem?

Heraclitusstudent says

Wow, so we're good and there's no problem?

The problem that the Trump sees (and that the Right sees) is that the media is fake, because it spins a fake narrative.
The problem that the left sees is that Trump is lying about what he said.
The problem that I see is that the media should report his statement and add that it could be interpreted as pressuring Comey (a subordinate) to drop the investigation. They should be more careful with their headlines.
The problem with Trump as I see it is that he cannot answer the direct question. From that I conclude that the memo is correct (otherwise, he would deny it). My interpretation of the whole thing is that Trump tried to cultivate a relationship with Comey and get him to quit the investigation of Flynn. He's not a complete moron, so he used vague language like 'I hope you can drop it' rather than commanding him to drop it. When he realized that Comey wasn't going to play ball, he fired him. Simple as that.

Heraclitusstudent says

Wow, so we're good and there's no problem?

One more point: Comey testified under oath he was never pressured by Trump

YesYNot says

Media reports: Trump pressured Comey to drop it (reasonable interpretation of direct quote)

"I hope you can drop the case against my staff."

Via Media Filter

= "LISTEN YOU DIRTY FUCKER... I WILL CAN YOUR ASS LIVE ON TV IF YOU DON'T GET IT STRAIGHT AND DON'T FUCK WITH ME... Sessions, show him the IRON MAIDEN"

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

One more point: Comey testified under oath he was never pressured by Trump

Not True. He testified that he was never told to drop an investigation by the AG or deputy AG. That was the specific hypothetical question he was answering.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Via Media Filter

= "LISTEN YOU DIRTY FUCKER... I WILL CAN YOUR ASS LIVE ON TV IF YOU DON'T GET IT STRAIGHT AND DON'T FUCK WITH ME.

Funny, because that's what he meant.

This is true, but do we need a thread to state the obvious? Also, why no like link?

In other words, I knew that the name was University of London but I also knew its colloquial monikers.

My senior partner got his LLM there.

BTW, even he goes back and forth between calling it London University, University of London, or just plain London.

And he's an alumni.

Dan8267 says

This is true, but do we need a thread to state the obvious?

Well, it's whenever bob rears his ugly head, it's best for others, to cut/paste this discussion so that he's reminded that he's a worthless P.O.S, who's better off, if his soul decides to leave his body, so that he can live eternity with the holy spirit or whatever the heck he believes in, than being forced to be in the body.

Remember, he's miserable and doesn't want to live. It's just that his physiology is holding on dear life.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/new-orleans-begins-removing-monument-to-confederate-gen-robert-e-lee/2017/05/19/c4ed94f6-364d-11e7-99b0-dd6e94e786e5_story.html?utm_term=.bc47738dcfe5

The communists got their way, the statue has been removed. Removing American history and sanitizing everything out to fit what they want it to be. Americas liberals gone nuts lately.

Next thing they'll be removing mount Rushmore because it's mostly Republicans up there. They'll find some justification, stupid shit is easy to come up with for the left, all they have to do is be themselves.

Not only that, they keep referring to the Donald as she. Maybe the con artist formerly known as trust fund twit is actually a trust fund tranny twit.

president Trump isn't under any ongoing criminal investigations.

/end thread.

I'm sure you'll foam at the mouth and regurgitate more words, but the premise upon which your argument is built is demonstrably false, so anything that follows is blather.

Fucking White Male says

president Trump isn't under any ongoing criminal investigations.

/end thread.

I'm sure you'll foam at the mouth and regurgitate more words, but the premise upon which your argument is built is demonstrably false, so anything that follows is blather.

They only see red. Nuance gets in the way of mob justice

jazz music says

Fucking White Male says

Trump isn't under any ongoing criminal investigations.

Neither was Hillary

Oh you imply that this is just another example of right wing hysteria.

I mean just listen to her. "WE CANNOT!!!" wow, pretty scary!

Hmmmm

Totally different now.

Hillary actually was under criminal investigation by the FBI....

"Comey sent a letter to congressional leaders in late October - 11 days before the November election - saying the FBI was reviewing emails tied to Clinton's use of a private server while she was secretary of state that were found as a part of a separate investigation into disgraced New York City politician Anthony Weiner."

Why you believe things that are false....I just don't understand....

I can't believe Judge Pirro until she flashes her hootie.

How sad.

rando says

There are plenty of people with integrity would would run and win if they could only get the financing without selling out. Publicly financed campaigns is the way to do that.

Sorry Patrick, but I disagree with you on this one. The two big parties, State-by-State, would create so many regulations and exclusionary rules, only the Party backed Insider Candidate would be able to access the funds.

"To access financing, candidate's party must have qualified to be on the ballot in the past 3 elections and collect 200,000 signatures, etc. etc."

Also, a lot of the wealth generated by doing the Corporate Will comes in the forms of speeches, board memberships, etc. after the term of office is over.

rando says

Publicly financed campaigns is the way to do that.

But of course no one in congress is going to vote for publicly financed campaigns, because every single one of them was elected under the corporately financed campaign system we have now.

Exactly. Since it can't be done it's not a solution.

HEY YOU says

BOYCOTT

It's hard to boycott when all of your choices are made in China, or all of them hire h1b's. That's why we need import duties and no h1b's. We should also not be importing anything from countries that use child labor, do not have or enforce environmental laws, or do not allow workers to organize.

Big surprise.

As a candidate, Trump repeatedly hammered Clinton’s charity for accepting money from Saudi Arabia and other countries that are notorious for human rights violations.

“Saudi Arabia and many of the countries that gave vast amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation want women as slaves and to kill gays. Hillary must return all money from such countries!” Trump wrote in a June 2016 Facebook post.

In tweets and public remarks, he also deemed the Clinton Foundation a “criminal enterprise” and accused Clinton of accepting pay-for-play donations from foreign governments when she served as secretary of state.

Saudi Arabia donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, according to the charity’s website — which is, at most, one-fourth of the amount Ivanka Trump’s fund will get from Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E.

Whenever I see someone wearing that red and white tarp on their head, I get hungry for pizza. Is that wrong?

Wow. That's a good haul. 4 times what the Clintons got. And the Clintons didn't do it when in office.

Or... Maybe the Arabs really wanted to support women entrepreneurs.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

This is Jared's commission for the discount on the arms sales, exactly as the Founding Fathers intended.

That's exactly what it is. You saw this w Clinton's arms deal and their foundation as well. Ivanka is setting up to be the next hillary clinton.

This is bullshit

YesYNot says

Wow. That's a good haul. 4 times what the Clintons got. And the Clintons didn't do it when in office.

Yes they did. Hillary's arms deal back in 2013? Was the biggest arms to deal at that time, CF was paid directly.

Strange that a culture that treats women as inferiors and slaves would donate $100 million towards a women's entrepreneurship fund.
It does seem like a bribe, but i doubt if any of that will go towards Ivanka personally. She has to stay clean if she is preparing to be the first female President of the USA.