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I also noticed the non-denial denial.

Comey's memo: Trump says that he hopes Comey can drop it.
Media reports: Trump pressured Comey to drop it (reasonable interpretation of direct quote)
Whitehouse: Trump never told Comey to stop the investigation.

Everybody told the truth! Amazing.
The thing is, if Trump and team cannot deny the contents of the memo, it most likely happened. They can cry fake news even though the facts are true. The only thing up for debate is the interpretation.

They are going to say that Obama started down the imprison journalist road by talking about charging Assange. It's pretty striking that Trump would ask for Comey to consider that. Even if he just told Comey to consider it, and he didn't direct him to do it.

YesYNot says

Comey's memo: Trump says that he hopes Comey can drop it.

Media reports: Trump pressured Comey to drop it (reasonable interpretation of direct quote)

Whitehouse: Trump never told Comey to stop the investigation.

Everybody told the truth! Amazing.

Wow, so we're good and there's no problem?

Heraclitusstudent says

Wow, so we're good and there's no problem?

The problem that the Trump sees (and that the Right sees) is that the media is fake, because it spins a fake narrative.
The problem that the left sees is that Trump is lying about what he said.
The problem that I see is that the media should report his statement and add that it could be interpreted as pressuring Comey (a subordinate) to drop the investigation. They should be more careful with their headlines.
The problem with Trump as I see it is that he cannot answer the direct question. From that I conclude that the memo is correct (otherwise, he would deny it). My interpretation of the whole thing is that Trump tried to cultivate a relationship with Comey and get him to quit the investigation of Flynn. He's not a complete moron, so he used vague language like 'I hope you can drop it' rather than commanding him to drop it. When he realized that Comey wasn't going to play ball, he fired him. Simple as that.

Heraclitusstudent says

Wow, so we're good and there's no problem?

One more point: Comey testified under oath he was never pressured by Trump

YesYNot says

Media reports: Trump pressured Comey to drop it (reasonable interpretation of direct quote)

"I hope you can drop the case against my staff."

Via Media Filter

= "LISTEN YOU DIRTY FUCKER... I WILL CAN YOUR ASS LIVE ON TV IF YOU DON'T GET IT STRAIGHT AND DON'T FUCK WITH ME... Sessions, show him the IRON MAIDEN"

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

One more point: Comey testified under oath he was never pressured by Trump

Not True. He testified that he was never told to drop an investigation by the AG or deputy AG. That was the specific hypothetical question he was answering.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Via Media Filter

= "LISTEN YOU DIRTY FUCKER... I WILL CAN YOUR ASS LIVE ON TV IF YOU DON'T GET IT STRAIGHT AND DON'T FUCK WITH ME.

Funny, because that's what he meant.

This is true, but do we need a thread to state the obvious? Also, why no like link?

In other words, I knew that the name was University of London but I also knew its colloquial monikers.

My senior partner got his LLM there.

BTW, even he goes back and forth between calling it London University, University of London, or just plain London.

And he's an alumni.

Dan8267 says

This is true, but do we need a thread to state the obvious?

Well, it's whenever bob rears his ugly head, it's best for others, to cut/paste this discussion so that he's reminded that he's a worthless P.O.S, who's better off, if his soul decides to leave his body, so that he can live eternity with the holy spirit or whatever the heck he believes in, than being forced to be in the body.

Remember, he's miserable and doesn't want to live. It's just that his physiology is holding on dear life.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/new-orleans-begins-removing-monument-to-confederate-gen-robert-e-lee/2017/05/19/c4ed94f6-364d-11e7-99b0-dd6e94e786e5_story.html?utm_term=.bc47738dcfe5

The communists got their way, the statue has been removed. Removing American history and sanitizing everything out to fit what they want it to be. Americas liberals gone nuts lately.

Next thing they'll be removing mount Rushmore because it's mostly Republicans up there. They'll find some justification, stupid shit is easy to come up with for the left, all they have to do is be themselves.

Not only that, they keep referring to the Donald as she. Maybe the con artist formerly known as trust fund twit is actually a trust fund tranny twit.

president Trump isn't under any ongoing criminal investigations.

/end thread.

I'm sure you'll foam at the mouth and regurgitate more words, but the premise upon which your argument is built is demonstrably false, so anything that follows is blather.

Fucking White Male says

president Trump isn't under any ongoing criminal investigations.

/end thread.

I'm sure you'll foam at the mouth and regurgitate more words, but the premise upon which your argument is built is demonstrably false, so anything that follows is blather.

They only see red. Nuance gets in the way of mob justice

jazz music says

Fucking White Male says

Trump isn't under any ongoing criminal investigations.

Neither was Hillary

Oh you imply that this is just another example of right wing hysteria.

I mean just listen to her. "WE CANNOT!!!" wow, pretty scary!

Hmmmm

Totally different now.

Hillary actually was under criminal investigation by the FBI....

"Comey sent a letter to congressional leaders in late October - 11 days before the November election - saying the FBI was reviewing emails tied to Clinton's use of a private server while she was secretary of state that were found as a part of a separate investigation into disgraced New York City politician Anthony Weiner."

Why you believe things that are false....I just don't understand....

I can't believe Judge Pirro until she flashes her hootie.

How sad.

rando says

There are plenty of people with integrity would would run and win if they could only get the financing without selling out. Publicly financed campaigns is the way to do that.

Sorry Patrick, but I disagree with you on this one. The two big parties, State-by-State, would create so many regulations and exclusionary rules, only the Party backed Insider Candidate would be able to access the funds.

"To access financing, candidate's party must have qualified to be on the ballot in the past 3 elections and collect 200,000 signatures, etc. etc."

Also, a lot of the wealth generated by doing the Corporate Will comes in the forms of speeches, board memberships, etc. after the term of office is over.

rando says

Publicly financed campaigns is the way to do that.

But of course no one in congress is going to vote for publicly financed campaigns, because every single one of them was elected under the corporately financed campaign system we have now.

Exactly. Since it can't be done it's not a solution.

HEY YOU says

BOYCOTT

It's hard to boycott when all of your choices are made in China, or all of them hire h1b's. That's why we need import duties and no h1b's. We should also not be importing anything from countries that use child labor, do not have or enforce environmental laws, or do not allow workers to organize.

Big surprise.

As a candidate, Trump repeatedly hammered Clinton’s charity for accepting money from Saudi Arabia and other countries that are notorious for human rights violations.

“Saudi Arabia and many of the countries that gave vast amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation want women as slaves and to kill gays. Hillary must return all money from such countries!” Trump wrote in a June 2016 Facebook post.

In tweets and public remarks, he also deemed the Clinton Foundation a “criminal enterprise” and accused Clinton of accepting pay-for-play donations from foreign governments when she served as secretary of state.

Saudi Arabia donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, according to the charity’s website — which is, at most, one-fourth of the amount Ivanka Trump’s fund will get from Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E.

Whenever I see someone wearing that red and white tarp on their head, I get hungry for pizza. Is that wrong?

Wow. That's a good haul. 4 times what the Clintons got. And the Clintons didn't do it when in office.

Or... Maybe the Arabs really wanted to support women entrepreneurs.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

This is Jared's commission for the discount on the arms sales, exactly as the Founding Fathers intended.

That's exactly what it is. You saw this w Clinton's arms deal and their foundation as well. Ivanka is setting up to be the next hillary clinton.

This is bullshit

YesYNot says

Wow. That's a good haul. 4 times what the Clintons got. And the Clintons didn't do it when in office.

Yes they did. Hillary's arms deal back in 2013? Was the biggest arms to deal at that time, CF was paid directly.

Strange that a culture that treats women as inferiors and slaves would donate $100 million towards a women's entrepreneurship fund.
It does seem like a bribe, but i doubt if any of that will go towards Ivanka personally. She has to stay clean if she is preparing to be the first female President of the USA.

I don't think SA donated while she was SOS.

Strategist says

It does seem like a bribe, but i doubt if any of that will go towards Ivanka personally.

Do you think she needs it? She can already buy anything she wants.

This is a power bribe.

CBOEtrader says

Strategist says

It does seem like a bribe, but i doubt if any of that will go towards Ivanka personally.

Do you think she needs it? She can already buy anything she wants.

This is a power bribe.

She will get the women's vote when she runs for President.

Strange indeed.

They might be trying to buy into our good graces. Or Ivanka is a master negotiator.

Strategist says

Strange that a culture that treats women as inferiors and slaves would donate $100 million towards a women's entrepreneurship fund.

It does seem like a bribe, but i doubt if any of that will go towards Ivanka personally. She has to stay clean if she is preparing to be the first female President of the USA.

This is not correct-is there any rule against this? very Clintonian. he should get rid of jared and ivanaka-this is not his private company.

jazz music says

ROTFLMAO!!!

uh yeah!

It's like the deficit: it only matters when a democrat is in office.

They ain't got no fear factories.

Some deficits are for the good, and some deficits are for the bad. When you increase deficits to take an economy out of a sluggish growth rate, it is a good deficit. When you increase deficits to give freebies to lazy losers who don't want to work, that's a bad deficit.
Another Econ 101 lesson to the socialists.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

This is the first time IHLlary has likely encountered a human being with female genitals as profoundly evil as she is - and I have no doubt it's insanely arousing.

My sense is that this will end with IHLlary encountering Ivanka on 34th Street brandishing a roscoe and demanding, "Death bitch, drop your laundry and present that snatch for a savage lathering and licking. You drench my face with your lady juice or you fucking die!"

I believe i could do a better job on her than Hillary, based solely on years of experience, expertise, and talent.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Strategist says

I believe i could do a better job on her than Hillary, based solely on years of experience, expertise, and talent.

Yes, yes, all of that and weaponized sincerity!

Yup. My weapon is fully loaded and ready to fire for the good of the country, exactly as the Founding Fathers intended.

jazz music says

Strategist says

When you increase deficits to take an economy out of a sluggish growth rate

Econ 101 is trickle down?

Trickle down is in chapter 4 of Econ 101. But you would have to pass chapter 1 first. Summer classes start in June.

jazz music says

Rich pigs are the lazy ones because they inherit for the most part

That i agree. Fucking bastards.

jazz music says

Real people need to get back on their feet or they may have to come and slit your throat. OOoh! Capitalism!

Real people are like me, who don't whine like losers and make something of themselves.

jazz music says

If you are not such a loser then why do you always feel so bad that you must attack me? a complete unknown you know nothing about has your feelz in an uproar no less. poor poor man.

I'm just having fun, and disagreeing with your socialistic views. You are just too sensitive. Lighten up.

jazz music says

Strategist says

disagreeing with your socialistic views

It's hysterical to categorize any responsive actions on the part of a supposedly representative government to the citizens instead of the wealthy as socialist. Absolutely hysterical!

I'm actually the most conservative one here.

ROFL.

jazz music says

Who wouldn't admit that this country is off the rails

I wouldn't. I think we are doing great. Unemployment is low. Our 401K's are at record highs. Our home prices have recovered.

To a World Bank Fund proposed by Ivanka, not to Ivanka herself.

The Wall Street Journal reported Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. would donate to the Women Entrepreneurs Fund, a program Ivanka Trump pitched to World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim and has discussed with several world leaders.

Why suck bankster cock when you can just wave swords with Saudis?