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The Shia ritual involves brandishing lethal weapons; though causing self-inflicted wounds, the message is to show aggression and readiness to draw blood - even their own. The Christian ritual involves reenacting the self-sacrifice of the crucifixion.
The Flagellants aren't re-enacting the Crucifixion, though Easter is a popular time to "flagellate". They are practicing "Mortification of the Flesh" as an avenue to repentance.
The Shi'a are the ones slashing themselves with swords over the betrayal by the Sunni of Hosayn ibn Ali and the battle of Karbala. Hosayn was the "true" descendant of Muhammed, and should have been Kaliph in their eyes. However, Shi'ites aren't the ones responsible for 9/11, the Embassy Bombings, WTC #1, the attacks in India, etc. etc.
If anything, Shi'ites have their hands full dealing with Sunni oppression.
In any case, religion is stupid.
Can we just outlaw religion?
As well as Realtor's and NAR!
Man will not be free until the last Realtor is strangled with the entrails of the last Imam.
These are all images of the American working-poor Republican voters leaving the voting booth.
If these wackos want more whipping I will be glad to help out.
Nice of you to offer, but no need. They blame you already.
This is the thanks I get for helping mankind. :(
Can we just outlaw religion?
When you outlaw religion then only the outlaws will go to heaven.
Shi'ites....
including Iran, comprise only around 10% of all Muslims, so it doesn't say very much to say that most suicide attacks are perpetrated by members of the 90% of Muslims who are Sunni. Besides, consider the cruise ship hijackers, etc.
I don't mean to overstate matters: the vast majority of religious people including Muslims don't become suicide terrorists, but our existing strategies for containing violence depend on assumptions about deterrence, and those assumptions do not apply in some cases. JFK said, "we are all mortal." Some don't agree, and so the rules that govern everyone else don't really apply to them.
Can we just outlaw religion?
When you outlaw religion then only the outlaws will go to heaven.
There has to be a win-win solution here. If these ppl believe they are going to eternal paradise when they die, surely we should not delay them.
I have noticed though that many people who swear up and down that they are certain of going to heaven, are also terrified of death and insist that we must also pay any price ("no lifetime caps!") to postpone the inevitable. There seems a strong correlation in fact. In contrast, atheist Mark Twain had the opposite view: �I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.� In other words, religion stunts people in the early stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining), preventing them from ever reaching acceptance. Certain clerics have learned to exploit the anger and bargaining stages, indulging denial by offering eternal rewards in exchange for suicidal violence.
Can we just outlaw religion?
When you outlaw religion then only the outlaws will go to heaven.
Dammit Captain, you are right. We will now need to send out the drones and bomb heaven all the way to hell.
BTW, for anyone who forgot, the Islamic violence about cartoons in Charlie Hebdo followed similar violence about cartoons in a Danish newspaper, as told in this little story about a teacher who had been arrested for naming a Teddy bear "Mohamed"
Those cartoons set off riots across the Muslim world, and several dozen people were killed.
Omar Hassan al-Bashir, the president of Sudan, said in a recent interview with the television network Al Jazeera, “We in Sudan declared mobilization against the Scandinavians after the publishing of the offensive cartoons of the prophet.†He said the Sudanese people would not accept Scandinavian troops because of this.
His rejection of the Scandinavians complicates efforts to bolster the peacekeeping force with appropriate technical expertise."
State news agency Petra said Nahed Hattar was hit three times after the gunman opened fire outside the court building in Amman's Abdali's district.
The 56-year-old Christian was arrested on August 13 after posting a cartoon mocking jihadists on his Facebook account.
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Prime Minister Hani al-Malki ordered his interior minister, Salam Hammad, to summon the writer and to initiate legal proceedings against him after he shared the cartoon on the internet.
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In January 2015, jihadists killed 12 people, including eight staff, in an attack on the offices of magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris.
The French satirical weekly had drawn the fury of Muslims around the world since publishing drawings of Islam's Prophet Mohammed in 2006.
Authorities in Denmark have thwarted attacks linked to the Mohammed cartoons published in the Jyllands-Posten newspaper in 2005.
The publication sparked deadly protests in some Muslim countries."
I went trap shooting the other day for the first time in 20+ years.
It was fun. I need some more practice after my shoulder heals up.
People that kill because someone posted an image are quite deserving of death.
Browning makes a really nice 12 gauge. I'm glad I live in the US and not Europe.
Now that more than two years have passed since the Islamic attack on Charlie Hebdo, I thought it might be worthwhile to update PatNet about what Charlie Hebdo is publishing. In particular, I wondered whether the survivors retained the courage to blaspheme, or whether they had been successfully cowed into submission ("Islam" is an Arabic word that means, literally, "submission"). Charlie Hebdo's website has a whole section called "blasphemy," so you might expect to find some blasphemy there, including cartoons making fun of Mohamed. Sadly, I found instead denunciations of "Islamophobia" and "identitarian scammers", strawman arguments against people who speak honestly about Islam, and celebrations of 'moderate' Muslims, e.g. praising the mosque in Germany where men and women pray together to the dead charlatan Mohamadman, and claiming (against all evidence) that Muslim women are the heart of the resistance to Islamism (despite the fact that Muslim women participate in murdering their own adult children for Islamic "honor", and the growing number of women suicide bombers). IOW, the murder of Charlie Hebdo blasphemers appears to have produced the intended effect, enforcing submission to the doctrine that the charlatan Mohamadman and his Arab nationalist followers designed, fabricated, and optimized Islam to do. Even Charlie Hebdo seems, now, to submit to hijrah.
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"At least five people were killed on Saturday during a second day of unrest in Niger, as French citizens were warned to stay indoors amid anger in several Muslim countries over a Prophet Mohammed cartoon published by Charlie Hebdo this week."
[Update: at least 10 killed so far.]
The murderers in Paris were not exceptions to the rule of a supposedly peaceful religion. They were the tip of an iceberg. I have never heard of Christians rioting and killing people over a cartoon, but Muslims do so repeatedly. I am not endorsing any particular religion, but clearly one of the three Abrahamic faiths is more violently aggressive than the others: Islam combines Old Testament violence with New Testament proseletyzing. All three have been used at various times to advocate violence, but Judaism doesn't try to convert non-Jews and Christianity gave up converting people by the sword centuries ago. Even saying that Islam is no worse than Christianity prior to the reformation implies that Islam may take 300 years to tamp down to the level of Christianity today (where abortion clinic bombings are the exception not the rule).
#islam