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joeyjojojunior says

How about door 3--we vote competent people into office who can actually make good policy to improve the country?

Here here!

Obviously, that requires an educated population and a voting system where votes have strong measurable influence over policy. Details details. (wink)

Rew says

sagacious1 says

I concern myself with policy, not image.....and I could care less about what the rest of the world thinks.

You are supporting an interesting President if that is the case. I would say he is the antithesis of what you espouse. In strong part he only holds office because of his ability to project a phantom of success.

If ever there was an image over substance time in America, it is now.

I didn't say I supported anyone. The original post regards image, which I find meaningless. As for this administration, some thing I can agree with, others I don't. I do have deep reservations, however it's too premature to render an opinion. Yet it remains the greatest Nation ever designed, and shall continue to be.

"Mr. President, your daughter is an amazing woman. I'm very impressed by her business sense. We have granted multiple trademarks and deals for her new clothing lines and are very excited by the prospects. I believe this is a great deal for us both. There is however the matter of these islands in the South China sea ... have you been to some of our vacation spots? No? I will have to have you down ... you see it's just that ..."

komputodo says

ummmmm...show up with a tranny wife?

Very telling.

I guess rumored Eastern European prostitute is as close as we have come so far.

sagacious1 says

Yet it remains the greatest Nation ever designed, and shall continue to be.

Democratic norms and things which make it great are under assault both from foreign influence and domestic incompetence.

I don't need any more time to issue a judgment: Trump is an empty shirt and our national dysfunction has been amped up by a factor of 5 because of him. We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

komputodo says

ummmmm...show up with a tranny wife?

Melania does bear a striking resemblance to Kaitlyn Jenner.

That started when obama's red line was crossed without consequence...

Rew says

We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

Well, we apparently just found the next hysteria.....

Oh, and I told you so.

Rew says

We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

Remember the golden rule? Whoever has the gold makes the rules. Has nothing to do with manners, protocols, hair styles, etc.

Rew says

. We have begun falling from our leadership role in the world.

I find it incredulous that by choosing a different path than the global mindset, equates to "falling from our leadership role". I mean, certainly one can argue his decisions and directions, yet to suggest because this administration won't follow the Global trend doesn't mean it's not leading, in fact quite the opposite. The question is, is it the right direction?

anonymous says

*Trump Handed Putin a Stunning Victory *

Ah that's cute. I haven't had one fellow Trump asskisser call me up and say "Dude!!! What the fuck! Did you see that shit? Trump handed Putin a stunning vicotry!"

Dream on Libbies, dream on.

Yep... it a true.

www.youtube.com/embed/R7f-pw2SXUU

Also note the debunked lie in the second video where the right-wing shill tries to pretend that the pre-Southern-Strategy Republican Party is the same as today's Republican Party.

Rew says

komputodo says

ummmmm...show up with a tranny wife?

Very telling.

I guess rumored Eastern European prostitute is as close as we have come so far.

Rumors and conspiracies is all the left has. The DNC is broken. This is a very good thing

anonymous says

Second, he needed to demonstrate that he understands that the greatest threat to that alliance, those values, and our security is the Kremlin.

The greatest threat to western values is coming from the left, who is all too eager to squash freedom of speech to gain power. The left doesn't care about the migrant invasion or starting WW3, or even pitting Americans against each other as long as they gain more political power.

Trump made a brilliant speech in Poland expressing that western values are worth saving. Western culture will prevail this onslaught, whereas the DNC will not.

CBOEtrader says

The greatest threat to western values is coming from the left, who is all too eager to squash freedom of speech to gain power.

Yes. That left again. Canceling press briefings, restricting press access, attacking the media: gosh darn them!

Meanwhile, the right really is doing that, and additionally pushing for voter suppression and stoking xenophobia based in a large part on economic problems. It's no accident this national populist movement is being compared to fascist regimes.

www.youtube.com/embed/y6_ckWZCHW4

This!

Rew says

Yes. That left again. Canceling press briefings, restricting press access, attacking the media: gosh darn them!

Considering that the media is wholly owned by Leftist oligarchs for the sole purpose of promoting Leftist thought, why should it be favored with special access or treated with kid gloves when it promotes lies? And you're putting "cancelling press briefings" in this category? Seriously? You've just defined "nothingburger."

Rew says

pushing for voter suppression

No, that's voter VERIFICATION! Nobody is served when illegals without a stake in the USA are encouraged to vote.

Quigley says

No, that's voter VERIFICATION!

The intent of gathering the information is to do what? Purge the voter rolls.

You know what happens when the US government tries to collect up information on where Michael Smith and Rodrigo Hernandez are registered to vote and mistakenly purge valid voters because their names are so common/mistaken? Voter suppression!

Additionally the climate of fear right now has people NOT wanting to even register in states where they are willing to collect that.

You can verify without doing this.

Funny how I'm not worried in the least if Trump sees my voter registration card. I don't know anyone else who is worried about it either. Only lawbreakers are worried about Justice catching up to them!

Quigley says

Funny how I'm not worried in the least if Trump sees my voter registration card

You think Trump is the only one going to be looking at it? You need to get out more if you don't think anyone else is worried about it.

Quigley says

Only lawbreakers are worried about Justice catching up to them!

Then I want a gun registry too. What a slippery slope we go down, isn't it?

How do the lines go ... "Only the guilty ask for immunity deals." ... "Only the failed start attacking the credibility of agents/lawyers." ... Weren't those they greatest hits from the Benghazi fiasco?

Booger says

He's talking about the 2008 election when a black guy took office. Boy did that piss off the right.

The real anger about interference in the election is that the Presidency didn't go to the Candidate with the most Big Money and Special Interest Fundraising.

"How dare the plebes vote against our monied interests!"

The tweet and shitty ass faux news story is today's news. It's also covered here:
https://patrick.net/1307911/2017-07-10-dumb-or-dishonest-person-runs-with-fox-news-intentionally-misleading-story-tweets-lies-to-the-world

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4682204/Man-arrested-walking-naked-Arizona-Walmart.html

This is what Trump needs to do to be even more embarrassing and disturbing at international conferences than he already is.

PeopleUnited blocked you huh? That makes a mockery of this thread:
https://patrick.net/1307772/2017-07-05-free-speech-repost-for-the-free-people-of-patnet

Lol@ citing Dan:

Dan8267 is banning: Bellingham Bill BlueSardine Blurtman bob2356 CBOEtrader errc FortWayne GONE Goran_K Heraclitusstudent indigenous komputodo lostand confused No news is good news NuttBoxer P N Dr Lo R Paralithodes PeopleUnited Quigley Rashomon rpanic01 socal2 Strategist Straw Man Tenpoundbass The Original Bankster

Dan8267 is banned by: BlueSardine errc Heraclitusstudent P N Dr Lo R PeopleUnited Straw Man

Hate to harp on this but the current blocking/banning system doesn't work and doesn't make sense thunderdome

First off, you have to understand that when someone bans you, it's really only a one way thing. They can still post in your threads, etc. You really have to ban them back. I don't understand why everyone doesn't do this.

Second, you need to grow up and stop being so butt hurt over the election results.

Would be a great time to announce the dividend is being raised.

When would they usually do this, given that they mentioned it after the last distribution?

Lol@ someone disliking this. Facts are something to dislike? Funny, according to the leftists here it's only the trump supporters that don't like facts.

Fucking White Male says

Lol@ citing Dan:

Dan8267 is banning: Bellingham Bill BlueSardine Blurtman bob2356 CBOEtrader errc FortWayne GONE Goran_K Heraclitusstudent indigenous komputodo lostand confused No news is good news NuttBoxer P N Dr Lo R Paralithodes PeopleUnited Quigley Rashomon rpanic01 socal2 Strategist Straw Man Tenpoundbass The Original Bankster

Dan8267 is banned by: BlueSardine errc Heraclitusstudent P N Dr Lo R PeopleUnited Straw Man

The fucking balls on people.
Entitles to ban people from posting in their Political rants directed at those they know can read it, but can't post.
But then bitch because you can still see their posts?

It's a terrible thing when somebody can pile on the ad hominems without offering ad hominem retaliation and recourse. All that pent up ad hominem energy has nowhere to go, don't want another Patnetter going postal.

Dan8267 says

Straw Man, less lying.

Where the fuck did I lie?

Ceffer says

don't want another Patnetter going postal.

Republican & Democrat voters/supporters on patnet will drive the sane..nuts.
The stupidity burns.

I don't feel that the blocking system is failing; I feel it is useful, but must be used selectively and with a certain amount of critical introspection concerning one's own failings or faults (in posting). I have a very active blocking policy, and it's kinda like how I would maintain classroom discipline if I were teaching. Psychotic, or obcessive-compulsive, or ideologue, or profane or vicious, or uncivil persons will be blocked. So will persons who routinely engage in non-sequiturs or chaotic disturbed ramblings or angry rants. The reason I block these is not because they disagree with me or distress me; it's because those who may wish to discuss along the original topic of the thread are deflected from doing so by these peoples' eruptive outbursts. If any of these persons wanted to put up a post saying they agreed not to do these things again on my threads, I would unblock them.

Secondly, if I do comment on others' threads, I feel I must be civil, pretty much limit my comments to the actual topic they started it with, be relevant, be factual, and be coherent. Above all, one should never go on other threads and be disruptive; it's just disrespectful.

There are those on this site who I disagree with about the scope of science, rationality, and the scientific method. Or those as against whom I hold different economic theories. Or some I feel get too much into Islamophobic diatribes. Or those who "can never be wrong". Or some who try to constantly misdirect my threads into topics I really prefer be on their own threads, as I see them as irrelevant to the point I originally posted. But these people are never going to be blocked on my threads, though they really make me mad at times, because they are essentially civil and their expressions are grounded in some variant of evidence or rationality, although they may come to conclusions I eschew.

I don't see why this is such a big problem unless people want to fight instead of discuss things amicably and intelligently (which is kinda why I made my [semi]joke posting several weeks back suggesting Patrick introduce a "Bedevil" feature, the opposite of the "Befriend" feature, so that those who want to abuse and belittle each other could exchange personal emails and get into it off-site)

Can't we all just get along?

This is a hell of a rise on some seriously mild volume.

Yes, up 5% today.