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PeopleUnited says

The following sounds more like hate speech than what you quoted above from TPB

Sounds like your full of shit. Calling out someone's bullshit and lies is not hate speech. Speaking of which, do you ever stop lying? Good Christian values there.

"Liberals are the meanest mother fuckers there is." Ralph Nader even said that exact same thing in An Unreasonable Man.

Tenpoundbass says

"Liberals are the meanest mother fuckers there is."

I don't remember liberals implementing policies of torture, rape, and dehumanization in Guantanamo Bay.

Who gives a fuck what some commie faggot says?

Tenpoundbass says

Who gives a fuck what some commie faggot says?

For that matter, who cares what you Rainbow People from the Ocala Forest have to say?

Put some pants on!

They just bring attention to what petty vindictive butt munches they are and bring clarity to their party of haters and Fascist oppressors.

I welcome their overbearing shit. It's just puts them a better light so everyone can see the Filth for themselves.

Ugh just look at the crud on THAT ONE!

Dan8267 says

I don't remember liberals implementing policies of torture, rape, and dehumanization in Guantanamo Bay.

There is no proof there were no liberals among the torturers.

jazz_music says

Straw Man says

There is no proof there were no liberals among the torturers.

There is no proof that you weren't among the torturers.

Same goes for you, buddy. Why did you torture these poor souls, you liberal, you?

Straw Man says

Dan8267 says

I don't remember liberals implementing policies of torture, rape, and dehumanization in Guantanamo Bay.

There is no proof there were no liberals among the torturers.

1. You mean evidence, not proof.
2. There is proof that no liberals committed torture.

A liberal, by definition, believes that no one right's should be violated. Torture is a violation of human rights. Therefore, no one believing that no one right's should be violated would torture a person. Thus no liberal was among the torturers. The math is indisputable.

Once more conservatives prove they are incapable of basic mathematical reasoning. As all finance, including running businesses, involves math, conservatives suck at business.

PeopleUnited says

So in summary TPB is tooting his own horn and touting his service to the nation

No Shame in my MAGA game.

Dan8267 says

PeopleUnited says

The following sounds more like hate speech than what you quoted above from TPB

Sounds like your full of shit. Calling out someone's bullshit and lies is not hate speech. Speaking of which, do you ever stop lying? Good Christian values there.

It is possible to call out some without projecting your hatred and bitterness onto them (at least it is possible for people who are not psychopaths). But the manner in which you comment on this site and towards TPB in particular reeks of hatred and yes, it is hate speech. They way you comment is full of hate. And accusing me of lies, is just more defensiveness because I have called you on your bullshit. You don't need to attack my character to express your disagreement with my perspective. But that is what you do, over and over again. It is called ad hominem. It is called hate speech. It is your MO.

Tenpoundbass says

PeopleUnited says

So in summary TPB is tooting his own horn and touting his service to the nation

No Shame in my MAGA game.

Rock on.

Dan8267 says

Straw Man says

Dan8267 says

I don't remember liberals implementing policies of torture, rape, and dehumanization in Guantanamo Bay.

There is no proof there were no liberals among the torturers.

1. You mean evidence, not proof.

2. There is proof that no liberals committed torture.

Of course there isn't. And fuck the silly redefinition games.

BlueSardine says

Democrats are stock liberals, so......no.

AllTruth says

Does anyone here REALLY believe that democrats are in tune with average Americans

Yes, the mainstream media that predicted Clinton 2016 in a landslide.

PeopleUnited says

The Iraq war was supported by a bunch of democrats both those in private life and public office. I'm sure you have seen the list of democrats who voted for the war. And the blame rests on W and his people who sold the war based on bad "intelligence."

Yes, the Democrats who supported the Iraq War were wrong and bad. However, equating the two parties is bullshit. The vote count was

Democrats
For War 26 (54%)
Against 22 (46%)

Republicans
For War 50 (98%)
Against 1 (2%)

Furthermore, the entire Bush administration lied to the public about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction and about Saddam being behind 9/11.

There is evil in the Democratic Party, but the Republican is evil. That's a big difference.

Finally, Christian support of the Republican Party, and the Dixiecrats before the South Strategy, proves that Christianity does not promote morality and in fact is highly associated with immorality.

Dan8267 says

Democrats

For War 26 (54%)

Including some of the most prominent and powerful politicians in the party and the nation, it is a who's who of the Democrat party:
Chuck Schumer
Hillary Clinton
John Kerry
Joe Lieberman
Chris Dodd
Joe Biden
Diane Feinstien
Harry Reid

But these people aren't evil right Dan????

PeopleUnited says

Dan8267 says

Democrats


For War 26 (54%)

Including some of the most prominent and powerful politicians in the party and the nation, it is a who's who of the Democrat party:

Chuck Schumer

Hillary Clinton

John Kerry

Joe Lieberman

Chris Dodd

Joe Biden

Diane Feinstien

Harry Reid

But these people aren't evil right Dan????

The typical approach from you-know-who would be to argue that these are not Liberals Democrats in the true meaning of the word (which is, of course, solely defined by him).

PeopleUnited says

Including some of the most prominent and powerful politicians in the party and the nation, it is a who's who of the Democrat party:

Chuck Schumer

Hillary Clinton

John Kerry

Joe Lieberman

Chris Dodd

Joe Biden

Diane Feinstien

Harry Reid

But these people aren't evil right Dan????

Again, half the democrats were for the war. All the republicans were for the war.

If you want to call the democrats evil, first you have to call the republicans the far greater evil. Anything less is hypocrisy.

Remember, it is the Republicans who lied about WMD and terrorist association.

Dan8267 says

Again, half the democrats were for the war. All the republicans were for the war.

No one voted for war. This is just idiotic. There was no declaration of war. They voted for a resolution to give the president authorization to FIND who was responsible, then use all necessary and appropriate force. It wasn't a hunting permit to wage war on countries and groups that weren't responsible for 9/11 just because bush thought they would be easy pickings to pump up his image. No where does the resolution say anything about weapons of mass destruction or establishing democracy. Al queda attacked the US, not the taliban. Saudi arabia financed and supported al queda, not Iraq. Pursuing the real perpetrators would have been a long hard grind done mostly in secret. Plus it would have meant standing up to the saudi's. Not nearly as sexy or vote gathering as sending in the troops then standing on an aircraft carrier declaring mission accomplished. Not to mention taking control of the worlds second largest ail reserves after knocking off hussein.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

jazz_music says

PeopleUnited says

Obama did nothing to seriously change laws or restrict firearms

8 years

Just let that sink in for a little while.

Obama was gun salesman of the year for 8 years. What is your point?

Dan8267 says

PeopleUnited says

Including some of the most prominent and powerful politicians in the party and the nation, it is a who's who of the Democrat party:


Chuck Schumer


Hillary Clinton


John Kerry


Joe Lieberman


Chris Dodd


Joe Biden


Diane Feinstien


Harry Reid

But these people aren't evil right Dan????

Again, half the democrats were for the war. All the republicans were for the war.

If you want to call the democrats evil, first you have to call the republicans the far greater evil. Anything less is hypocrisy.

Remember, it is the Republicans who lied about WMD and terrorist association.

The most powerful Democrats support the war. That is the point. They are just as guilty as any other Senator. Only bush and his lies are worse.

bob2356 says

This is just idiotic. There was no declaration of war.

America has fought nothing but undeclared wars for the past 70 years. This isn't new.

The Senate still funds these undeclared wars. That vote count came directly from the United States Senate and this resolution was exactly the authorization to wage war in Iraq.

You are attempting to rewrite history.

Bump.

Alltruth is that petty little Jive ass that comes around and harangues me every political season.
Aint that right Hussein? You Commie Floor smooching prick why don't you go back to you own damned country?
That's what you foreigners will never ever get about America.

Being born American is different than being American by geographic location. American History is just stories to you. American History is our ancestors.

Freewill and All, come and take it from us Motherfucker!

Dan8267 says

The Senate still funds these undeclared wars.

Both Repukes and Demoncrats.

PeopleUnited says

Dan8267 says

The Senate still funds these undeclared wars.

Both Repukes and Demoncrats.

But obviously not equally, so it's not a wash. That's a lie. One party is half full of despicable people. The other party is completely full of despicable people. There is no equivalency.

Let me put this in terms that you will understand. Some Christians commit murder in the name of their religion. A far greater percentage of Muslims commit murder in the name of their religion. Are Christianity and Islam equal?

Cut your hypocrisy.

In the next Constitution, all Congressional authorizations and declarations have to have an expiration date. Congress can renew with a simple majority vote, but it can't make any law or authorization permanent until specifically repealed.

I think we'd have some very interesting debates if all Congressional Activity had a 10 year maximum.

For example, Obama would have faced vetoing or not vetoing the Bush AUF vis-a-vis Afghanistan.

Dan8267 says

PeopleUnited says

Dan8267 says

The Senate still funds these undeclared wars.

Both Repukes and Demoncrats.

But obviously not equally, so it's not a wash. That's a lie. One party is half full of despicable people. The other party is completely full of despicable people. There is no equivalency.

Let me put this in terms that you will understand. Some Christians commit murder in the name of their religion. A far greater percentage of Muslims commit murder in the name of their religion. Are Christianity and Islam equal?

Cut your hypocrisy.

The democrats tolerate and even promote those who voted for the war to the top of their party. The ones who didn't support the war are complicit. Just as the muslims who tolerate the terrorists and support the Imams who preach violence are complicit.

PeopleUnited says

The democrats tolerate and even promote those who voted for the war to the top of their party. The ones who didn't support the war are complicit. Just as the muslims who tolerate the terrorists and support the Imams who preach violence are complicit.

Again, you are attempting to rewrite history. Half on one party is evil. All of the other party is evil. It's not hard to tell which is the lesser of the two evils by far.

Dan8267 says

PeopleUnited says

The democrats tolerate and even promote those who voted for the war to the top of their party. The ones who didn't support the war are complicit. Just as the muslims who tolerate the terrorists and support the Imams who preach violence are complicit.

Again, you are attempting to rewrite history. Half on one party is evil. All of the other party is evil. It's not hard to tell which is the lesser of the two evils by far.

Chuck Schumer

Hillary Clinton

John Kerry

Joe Lieberman

Chris Dodd

Joe Biden

Diane Feinstien

Harry Reid

These people are the leaders of your party. You are deceptive, self deceived and in denial.

PeopleUnited says

You are deceptive, self deceived and in denial.

You're projecting. You are also the only one using deception.

I've called for the DNC establishment to be overthrown. See my new classic thread The path to victory in the seventh party system.

Nonetheless, half of the Democratic senators and representatives are evil. ALL of the Republican senators and representatives are evil. A quarter to a tenth of the Democratic voters are evil. 80% or more of the Republican voters are evil.

Arguing that the other team is not flawless does not excuse the atrocities of your team. The two teams are not on the same level, not by far. Team blue has some evil players. Team red is pure evil and exists solely for evil. Team blue is corrupt and needs to be cleansed by the blue fans. Team red will destroy the world at the becking of the red fans.

Chuck Schumer

Hillary Clinton

John Kerry

Joe Lieberman

Chris Dodd

Joe Biden

Diane Feinstien

Harry Reid

These people are the democrat party. Arguing that the Republicans are evil while ignoring that the other party is dominated by evil people is pointless. They are both evil and selling the American people a bag a lies. You are promoting one party. I acknowledge that both are to blame. It is disingenuous to blame on party when the other party is complicit. Any one of the above could have stood up and made a national argument against the war. NONE OF THEM DID. instead they voted for it, just as their puppetmasters told them to. And you support them, just as you are told to do.

Threads that have to be declared 'classic' by the author because nobody else will, usually aren't...

Dan8267 says

See my new classic thread

BlueSardine says

See my new classic thread The path to victory in the seventh party system.

Exactly. And I don't visit threads where the author censors.

BlueSardine says

Threads that have to be declared 'classic' by the author because nobody else will, usually aren't...

Dan8267 says

See my new classic thread

Aren't new and classic opposites? Just saying.

bob2356 says

BlueSardine says

Threads that have to be declared 'classic' by the author because nobody else will, usually aren't...

Dan8267 says

See my new classic thread

Aren't new and classic opposites? Just saying.

This is a ban able offense!

BlueSardine says

Threads that have to be declared 'classic' by the author because nobody else will, usually aren't...

If you had any real arguments to make, you would have done that instead of whining.

PeopleUnited says

Exactly. And I don't visit threads where the author censors.

1. You weren't the one invited.
2. I don't give a shit.
3. There is no censorship. You are just whining.

bob2356 says

Aren't new and classic opposites? Just saying.

It's called an oxymoron. It's a common literary mechanic. In this case implying that although a thread is recent, it's an instant classic. And yes, that's self-promotion, but guess what, you are exposed to such promotions hundreds of times a day.

errc says

This is a ban able offense!

Straw man argument. I've only banned people for being trolls (like you) or for constant repeating of debunked lies.

I've also always followed the policy of allowing such people to be unbanned if they choose to change their ways. You have to choose to continue acting like a child to be kept on the ban. But of course, few such immature people are even capable of changing.

PeopleUnited says

These people are the democrat party. Arguing that the Republicans are evil while ignoring that the other party is dominated by evil people is pointless.

None of the Democrats you sited are nearly as evil as ANY of the current leaders of the Republican Party, the leaders of the GOP from 10 or 20 years ago, or the Trump administration. Not even Hillary Clinton.

Furthermore, the policies of the Republican Party are far more evil than anything that has come out of the Democratic Party since the two parties switched roles.

Finally, the overall vileness of Republican voters is far greater than the overall vileness of Democratic voters. Anyone who is for torture and raping prisoners, many of which are innocent, is almost certainly a Republican. Your party is the party of evil, plain and simple. And if Christianity didn't make you so morally bankrupted, you'd admit this.

Dan8267 says

bob2356 says

Aren't new and classic opposites? Just saying.

It's called an oxymoron. It's a common literary mechanic

Really? It's called an oxymoron? Well bless my soul the things you learn on patnet every day from such really smart people. If I hadn't learned about oxymoron in 1967 or so I would be super impressed.

Websters says oxymoron is :a combination of words that have opposite or very different meanings

Just like I said.

Dan8267 says

And yes, that's self-promotion, but guess what, you are exposed to such promotions hundreds of times a day.

Since you are the undisputed champion of self promotion I defer to your far superior personal knowledge of the subject.

Instant classic. That's just too funny. You are certainly a legend in your own mind.

bob2356 says

Instant classic. That's just too funny. You are certainly a legend in your own mind.

Yes, we get it. You hate me. Nobody gives a shit, so get over it.