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"earth is probably going to look very different in 2100"

And anybody cares?

P N Dr Lo R says

"earth is probably going to look very different in 2100"

And anybody cares?

We'll all be dead by then.

Sniper says

And anybody cares?

We'll all be dead by then.

Here, your daily dose of Republicans cynicism.

Part of the article is good: "Perhaps the most common belief about this problem is that it is caused by widespread ignorance — even outright “stupidity” — and that its solution lies in its opposite, intelligence. This belief is neatly expressed in progressive opposition to Donald Trump and his administration. Trump voters are often criticized for being unintelligent, for voting against their objective interests. Trump himself is regularly portrayed as unintelligent.

The basic idea is that if voters were intelligent, they would vote for an intelligent person who listened to intelligent people and all would be well. It is a staple of the liberal imaginary. Reflected here is the obtuse belief that the populist tide is simply mistaken, that it has gotten something wrong, which has the effect of veiling the real and justified dissatisfaction with the past 40 years of neoliberalism. Also reflected is the common view, which is not confined to one end of the political spectrum, that our biggest problems are essentially technical ones, and that the solution to them lies in the empowerment of intelligent people. The aura around Elon Musk is an extreme example of this kind of thinking.

The problem with the general view that intelligence will save us is that it involves pinning the failures of capitalist society on supposedly dumb people (them), who, so the logic goes, need to be replaced with supposedly smart ones (us). This is a spectacular delusion."

Heraclitusstudent says

The basic idea is that if voters were intelligent,

They wouldn't want to recreate their own Venezuela.

Our problems are anti-density laws, ridiculous faith in EV that is only one or two steps less ridiculous than "Hydrogen Economy", etc.

The main problem is that some magic tech is gonna solve our problems. Magic tech, meaning, something that substantially gets around the laws of physics. Tech solutions frequently require massive inputs of something. IE Massive fertilizer and carbon fuels for monocrop agra production.

Lower the Population, increasingly tax Privately Owned Vehicles, Eliminate anti-density and NIMBY Laws, and finally the best insurance of all:
www.youtube.com/embed/LrniPwzF7dQ



"There are too many problems on Earth." Exactly, diversify the basket the eggs are in. Also, there were problems in Spain in 1492.

P N Dr Lo R says

Heraclitusstudent says

The basic idea is that if voters were intelligent,

They wouldn't want to recreate their own Venezuela.

Yeah, you know what: I really understand that socialism doesn't work and the market works, etc, etc.... I really do and I sympathize.
This being said, capitalism has to go. And not just for env problems.

The problem with socialism was the problem of human idiocy: one person cannot know enough. Which is why top down doesn't work. It has to be emergence bottom up.
But the incentives have to be fixed and will change whether anyone likes it or not.
This article is fairly clairvoyant: Capitalism is doomed.

Heraclitusstudent says

Yeah, you know what: I really understand that socialism doesn't work and the market works, etc, etc.... I really do and I sympathize.
This being said, capitalism has to go.

If socialism does not work, and capitalism must go, what is left?
If you are leaning on some kind of a hybrid of the two, we already have that.

7:58-15:22
Happy Holidays!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=CLprrfOdlCo

http://www.pnas.org/content/114/30/E6089.full

Fucking Commies!