patrick.net

Exhibit C.
www.youtube.com/embed/7wvfxh0PbTQ

At least some liberals like Bill Maher are starting to speak out against the mob.

IS this a continuation of the thread about how liberals have a bizarre need to call right wingers names and insult them instead of having legit arguments ?

The ideology of Nazism was based upon the conception of the ancient Aryan race being a superior race, holding the highest position in the racial hierarchy and that the Germanic peoples were the most racially pure existing peoples of Aryan stock.[33] The Nazi conception of the Aryan race arose from earlier proponents of a supremacist conception of the race as described by racial theorist figures such as Arthur de Gobineau and Houston Stewart Chamberlain.[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race

THis description of Nazi ideology reminds me more of the real reason Trump was able to be elected, than any single thing liberals do.

I'm not saying that everyone that voted for Trump did so becasue they are a white supremacist or becasue of what they say was "his refreshing lack of political correctness." I'm just saying those folks were the ones that enabled Trump to win.

No shame ?
www.youtube.com/embed/Q9rzi5vRpvE

Do Liberals denounce the Manson Family and their brand of Family style fun?

Do Liberals denounce the Austin Bomber?

Do Liberals denounce Jock Itch?

Do Liberals denounce Schmegla?

Do Liberals denounce the shitbirds always saying stupid shit?

BTW CNN pushing that David Duke narrative was the beginning of the end for them.

Every Liberal I knew that was butt hurt over Trump, never saw any correlation with David Duke, Nazis and other Shit,that ANTIFA and Liberals clearly display.

Stay Creepy Liberals it's what you are best at.

Tenpoundbass says

Do Liberals denounce the Manson Family and their brand of Family style fun?

Do Liberals denounce the Austin Bomber?

Triggered ?

Every politician in modern history, in the situation in that video would have denounced , white supremacy, the KKK and DAvid Duke.

Trump: "Uhhh, I would have to do some research to understand what you're even talking about....I don't believe I've ever met David Duke....

Don't act like you don't understand what's going on there. (as if you would dare even watch that video).

Tenpoundbass says

BTW CNN pushing that David Duke narrative

They're not pushing a narrative. They had to expect Trump to denounce Duke in that interview, as he did decades earlier, when he was trying to virtue signal. They were giving him an opportunity that he missed, either becasue of his ineptness, or more likely becasue he was thinking he wanted those votes.

Yeah yeah, I know, 11 dimensional chess. He's a fricken genius.

The comparison is silly. The Nazis were above all nationalists i.e. National Socialists, note which word comes first. Trump and his devotes in rhetoric are above all Nationalists, MAGA. Thus we have tariffs, the Wall, travel ban and so forth. All this has some resonance to German Nationalism in the 30's. No, I am not calling Trump, the stable genius, a Nazi or a Hitler. Hitler was smarter and much, much more disciplined.

Socialism was popular at the time Hitler came to power, it was the depression, and Socialism was in opposition to the communists and so was Nationalism. Germany suffering under the terms imposed upon her ending WW1 was ready to break free from its shackles, Hitler lost in 1932 and was elected with a plurality in 1933 after the Nazis sized power.... authoritarians often come into power democratically and then never face a truly free election after...

marcus says

THis description of Nazi ideology reminds me more of the real reason Trump was able to be elected, than any single thing liberals do.

I'm not saying that everyone that voted for Trump did so becasue they are a white supremacist or becasue of what they say was "his refreshing lack of political correctness." I'm just saying those folks were the ones that enabled Trump to win.

@marcus

That's interesting information, can you please tell us how many of the 62+ million who voted for Trump are white supremacists? I don't believe I've ever seen that data.

Also, Trump flipped Blue states that Obama won twice (PA, WI, MI, MN, etc.). Did all the white supremacists move to those states to help them flip?

marcus says

IS this a continuation of the thread about how liberals have a bizarre need to call right wingers names and insult them instead of having legit arguments ?

No this is about leftists need to oppress wrong thinkers and behave like collectivist authoritarians.

Interesting comment from Haidt in the video you shared in which he compared todays progressives desire for purifying speech to the Nazi's need to purify their communities from Jews. (Great video btw, thanks for sharing.) In fact, he went on and described the language and behavior of the progressives as anti-liberal.

Remember that the Nazi's also created an education and workplace echo chamber in the 1930's. Anyone who disagreed w them was either fired or never hired. Hmmmm, who is doing that today?

Progressives are collectivist authoritarians. Their concepts of white privilege, violent speech, and the need to purify the discourse from wrongthinkers is terrifyingly similar to thee Nazi's and the communists. It will end in widespread violence if people like you continue to fascisplain for their terrible ideas.

marcus says

They're not pushing a narrative.

Lol, David duke is completely irrelevant. The #fakenews MSM turned him into a boogeyman as a propaganda tactic. Then they sweepingly associate anyone who supports Trump w duke. It's the purest form of propaganda.

Creating a sense of righteousness is an easy way to control people.

The Nazi's did the exact same thing. Please be better than the Nazi's. This can not end well.

Racism is bad, mmkay? Even when progressives practice it, mmkay?
Freedom of speech is pretty important, mmkay? We can’t silence those with whom we disagree without destroying our freedom of speech, mmkay?
Do you understand, now, mmkay?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5511647/Lecturer-banned-giving-talk-free-speech.html
Even professors dont have right to talk about freedom of speech.

Here is how the leftist threaten people seeking freedom of speech. Long video but shows how Univ are against free speech now.
www.youtube.com/embed/gvRkyKn6Te8&t=11s

indc says

Here is how the leftist threaten people seeking freedom of speech.

Progressives today = Nazis in the 1930's. Purifying schools and workplaces is the first step towards fascism. Threatening freedom of speech is part of the first step, and will get worse as it continues.

In 60s and 70s socialists and liberals took over the philosophy and arts departments in India. Now all these depts are just polluted with these ideas. They talk about breaking India and spreading hatred. The newer generation that grew with these philosophies even hate their parents and ancient culture. If someone tries to present a counter point to them they threaten with bullying the presenter.

Indians from engineering and math majors are now countering these philosophy majors.

I feel sad that same socialist culture is coming to US and other western countries. The experiment done in India was successful. So brace yourself, they will become more vocal and militant. "Not my president" is a trope to spread hatred between different communities.

Here's another.



I'm curious how many Takfiri Wahabis ranting about Whores on the train get imprisoned.

indc says

I feel sad that same socialist culture is coming to US and other western countries. The experiment done in India was successful. So brace yourself, they will become more vocal and militant. "Not my president" is a trope to spread hatred between different communities.

Sorry to hear this. The origins are all Eurocommies from the late 50s and 60s when Stalin's crimes became undeniable.

Part of it is the death of Marxism, so they replace the Proletariat with various "Minorities" and of course retain the loathing for "Bourgeois" Activity. Defined as being hard working, conscientious, patriotic, etc. Because they believe all values are socially constructed, I suspect they are engaging in a strategy of nihilism and Orwellian propaganda to eventually destroy all competing ideologies.

It's ironic, because these PoMos are like "All values are socially constructed. Now, let's march for Name of Left WIng Cause"

CBOEtrader says

Their concepts of white privilege, violent speech, and the need to purify the discourse from wrongthinkers is terrifyingly similar to thee Nazi's and the communists.

If someone uses the general term "progressives" to describe the authoritarian left, which is a small fraction of the left, they are behaving almost as badly as those SJWs.

I know many progressives, and with one or two sort of exceptions, none of them buy in to the authoritarian nonsense that to which you refer. None of them like to see what idiot authoritarians are doing on college campuses. The exceptions I mentioned do not fit your authoritarian description at all, but they are more into the identity politics than I am. I can't get behind those issues, even when I agree, because it feeds in to the idiocy of right wingers that want to make stupid generalizations.

I can guarantee that neither Jordan Peterson nor Jonathon Haidt would put the percentage of the left, or of progressives that are left wing authoriarians over 10%. I think 10% is a high estimate. Jonathon Haidt himself considers himself a liberal, and probably a progressive as well, and would be offended by your ridiculous generalizations.

If you wanted to, you could address those leftist authoritarians more accurately without generlizing, and you would be saying something I, and Jonathon Haidt and many progressives would agree with. Why don't you do that ?

Wouldn't be better if we all agree those authoritarians are idiots ? Or is it better that progressives in general somehow take the blame and get misabeled and associated as having the same bs authoritarian ideology ?

indc says

Long video but shows how Univ are against free speech now.

There is a movement afoot. And colleges are ultimately market competitors, with each other . So there's reason to be optimistic. As much as that might disappoint a lot of right wingers that might want to see our higher education system totally fall apart. Some schools are going to want to market themselves to students that want to focus on social justice themes. But more schools will want their reputation to be more about the pursuit of truth, science, and liberal arts in the traditional sense.

The market will sort this out. I work with teens, and I don't think a lot of them want the SJW focus.

35 Universities Adopt 'The Chicago Statement' On Free Speech--1,606 To Go

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomlindsay/2018/02/28/35-universities-adopt-the-chicago-statement-on-free-speech-1590-to-go/#1ac272dc771b

https://heterodoxacademy.org/

I guess it would be convenient for right wingers if our only political choices are between:

A) being one of today's republicans (which I won't even try to describe)

or

B) you're a left wing authoritarian that gets upset when Christina Hoff Summers or Jordan Peterson are allowed to speak.

That would be quite a boon to the republitards if that were reality.

marcus says

And colleges are ultimately market competitors, with each other .

Not the state ones. Or ones that get Federal Money.

Mandating a Free Speech code can and should be imposed on them by the State or Federal legislature. Market, Schmarket.

There needs to be Zero Tolerance when it comes to regulating speech by any educational institution that receives just $1 of taxpayer money.

Time to revoke Youtube's Public Forum status under the CDA, section 230.
http://patrick.net/post/1314619/2018-03-21-youtube-to-ban-firearms-videos

Real Nazis (1941) more lenient with Finnish man who appeared to mock Hitler with Dog Salute - no charges.

UK 2018, charged and convicted a comedian for a gag.
https://www.infowars.com/flashback-not-even-nazi-germany-charged-finnish-man-over-hitler-dog/

marcus says

If you wanted to, you could address those leftist authoritarians more accurately without generlizing, and you would be saying something I, and Jonathon Haidt and many progressives would agree with. Why don't you do that ?

Progressives is the specific group.

If you believe in white privilege and inter-sectional oppression, and/or that communism is the solution, then you are part of the problem. This thinly veiled communism repackaged as third wave feminism is the problem.

So do the people you call progressives reject the above? If so, they are not the problem. I would accept another term for these authoritarians, but currently progressives is the most apt.

marcus says

progressives that are left wing authoriarians over 10%

Perhaps, but they put themselves into positions to do HUGE damage. Please refer to the video that you posted, wherein Haidt and Peterson discuss how almost every elite college campus in the US and Canada are overrun by this anti-free speech authoritarianism.

I'm sure there are plenty (perhaps even most) on the left who disagree, but they are too weak to speak up. Why? Because its those deplorable "alt-right" people who are being oppressed, and fuk them. Amirite?

I may buy into your perspective a bit more if the left stood up and exorcised their own demons the way the right has cast out the white nationalists. The right will not allow themselves to be associated with .000001% deplorable minority... which is exactly why the white nationalists arent a threat. The extreme left, otoh, is kowtowed to by politicians, academians, business execs, etc.

Before Trump, the average american was too scared of being called deplorable to speak out against these terrible people. Trump has helped crush PC culture to the point where most people who arent in the left are starting to speak out. There are still risks of blowback though. See the examples above of people losing their jobs, having their reputations thrashed, and look around at the general oppression piled onto those who speak out.

This is perhaps the biggest problem we have in the US today. Grow some balls and support the deplorables against these authoritarians and MAYBE ill believe you are genuine. But nah, you'd rather call trump supporters white nationalists and do nothing while entire swaths of the US population are oppressed.

I wish you'd prove me wrong.

In case you werent completely convinced that this PC authoritarianism results in TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE oppression. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal wherein cops, teachers, parents, were all too afraid of speaking out for fear of being called racist.

It was only a tiny fraction of the nazi's who worked the death camps. However, virtue signalling in righteous indignation against the deplorable Jews was widespread. Much like the Germans in the 1930's, today's left is afraid to do stand up to the tyranny growing amongst them. Girls are being raped and killed, people are losing their livelihood, and free speech is being demolished in front of our eyes. When would you say its time to speak up against the alt-left, rather than chasing white nationalists ghosts?

Be part of the solution please.

White privileged, micro-aggressing bitch!