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Pit bulls have the hardware to do massive damage and even death. One should treat them accordingly. Unlike retreivers, they were bred for an entirely different purpose.
You Pit Bull owners walking your dog in a residential neighborhood, and that guy drives by and looks at you like you are a first class Moron?
Yeah! That was ME!
Very few breeds of dogs are known for killing people. Such dogs do not belong in densely populated areas.
People in SF have been mauled to death by pit bulls and presa canarias. A pit bull owner said she had "no regrets about" the day her dogs killed her son.
I've seen pit bulls even in very nice neighborhoods, possibly adopted by identitarian "liberals" trying to prove "rehabilitation" or "nurture over nature." Walking along the sidewalk one day, I happened to pass a male pitbull that had been staring intently at a female farther down the block. The owners were out walking their dogs, on leash, and on opposite sides of the sidewalk, at least 10 meters apart. The only way for me to continue toward my destination was to walk between them, passing first the male and then the female. When I crossed the male's field of view, he barked and snarled and lunged at me with such force that the owner could barely restrain him. If the dog had been off leash, or if the owner had been smaller or weaker, the situation could have ended very badly. Many vagrants have pitbulls off leash, with no accountability at all: you can't even identify which pit bull stuck a snout into your crotch, or which vagrant might have owned it, and even other dog owners feel scared that they and their dogs might get attacked. This is part of the price we pay for identitarian "liberals" who insist on signaling altruistic "virtue" rather than protecting the community from harm: actual liberals can't even walk on the sidewalk without risking their lives.
The Constitution protects people's right to keep and bear arms, but no one has a Constitutional right to bring dangerous animals into a densely populated area. Owners who defend dangerous animals as "sweet" (to them, so far) cherish a delusional fantasy, and avoid cognitive dissonance by turning a blind eye to actual behavior that everyone else can see. The owner of the pit bull that tried to attack me has probably forgotten that incident and countless others, but when you're walking along the sidewalk and experience something like that, it turns your head around. I've never seen a retriever behave that way, and a chihuahua can't realistically do the sort of damage that a pit bull can. There isn't a Constitutional right to harbor a dangerous animal in a densely populated area, putting neighbors and their children in harm's way.
I've seen pit bulls even in very nice neighborhoods, possibly adopted by identitarian "liberals" trying to prove "rehabilitation" or "nurture over nature."
I've seen pit bulls even in very nice neighborhoods, possibly adopted by identitarian "liberals" trying to prove "rehabilitation" or "nurture over nature." Walking along the sidewalk one day, I happened to pass a male pitbull that had been staring intently at a female farther down the block. The owners were out walking their dogs, on leash, and on opposite sides of the sidewalk, at least 10 meters apart. The only way for me to continue toward my destination was to walk between them, passing first the male and then the female. When I crossed the male's field of view, he barked and snarled and lunged at me with such force that the owner could barely restrain him. If the dog had been off leash, or if the owner had been smaller or weaker, the situation could have ended very badly. Many vagrants have pitbulls off leash, with no accountability at all: you can't even identify which pit bull stuck a snout into your crotch, or which vagrant might have owned it, and even other dog owners feel sc...
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
But, I have no data
Oh boy.....
and you would be wrong.
Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.
Sniper says
Oh boy.....
and you would be wrong.
Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.
Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
HappyGilmore saysSniper says
Oh boy.....
and you would be wrong.
Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.
Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..
Isn't that what you did above?
HappyGilmore saysMy guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
Why would a person who has a legal access to a gun want an agressive dog? For self-defense? But this is what the gun is for.
Satoshi_Nakamoto saysWhy would a person who has a legal access to a gun want an agressive dog? For self-defense? But this is what the gun is for.
You'd have to ask him/her, I don't know.
Why would someone need 15 guns? For self defense? I know lots of people that own that many.
15 guns don't give you any more trouble than 1 gun. They mostly sit in the safe collecting dust. An agressive dog, on the other hand, is a fucking trouble. And accident waiting to happen. So I wouldn't say that owning 1 gun and one Pit is the same as owning two guns. Because unlike a gun, the fucking dog has a mind of his own and can act independently of the will of the owner.
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
15 guns don't give you any more trouble than 1 gun. They mostly sit in the safe collecting dust. An agressive dog, on the other hand, is a fucking trouble. And accident waiting to happen. So I wouldn't say that owning 1 gun and one Pit is the same as owning two guns. Because unlike a gun, the fucking dog has a mind of his own and can act independently of the will of the owner.
I wouldn't say they're the same either. But clearly people own guns and dogs for reasons other than self defense.
No argument here. It's just with agressive dogs, the reasons for own the fucking animal are very narrow: dog fights, protection of a person or proprty, maybe hunting wild pigs ... and that's about it.
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
No argument here. It's just with agressive dogs, the reasons for own the fucking animal are very narrow: dog fights, protection of a person or proprty, maybe hunting wild pigs ... and that's about it.
And because it makes them feel tough.
Sniper says
Oh boy.....
and you would be wrong.
Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.
Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..
Satoshi_Nakamoto saysWhy would a person who has a legal access to a gun want an agressive dog? For self-defense? But this is what the gun is for.
You'd have to ask him/her, I don't know.
Why would someone need 15 guns? For self defense? I know lots of people that own that many.
HappyGilmore saysSniper says
Oh boy.....
and you would be wrong.
Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.
Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..
Yep, unlike you I have data, I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.
How's that for data?
I was told that they really are a gentle breed and that chihuahuas are much more dangerous.
Yep, unlike you I have data, I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.
How's that for data?
I own 8 to 10 power drills. a different tool for a different job.
Yep, unlike you I have data, I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.
How's that for data?
Anecdotal.
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
BayArea saysYep, unlike you I have data, I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.
How's that for data?
Anecdotal.
How can it be anecdotal when it covers a verifiable, large group of the specific people (gun nuts) that was referenced.
Is a "guess", like this, more accurate?
HappyGilmore saysMy guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
How can it be anecdotal when it covers a verifiable, large group of the specific people (gun nuts) that was referenced.
The problem with pitbulls is they are pure muscle.
If you're really asking, in order to make that into data, you'd need to be specific and detailed.
I'm betting you are right, but your supporting evidence is weak.
Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
Anecdotal.
How close to accurate was that, considering two of the top three on the AKC list were Retrievers? Yes, it's not a official NYT or WaPO survey (the only ones you believe), but it gives a pretty accurate representation. My statement about the "Gun Nuts" on the gun forums is very accurate, based on personal reporting.
How close and accurate was this statement?
HappyGilmore saysMy guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
Still believe that?
You have no data showing correlation between owning a gun and owning an retriever. (or a pit bull).
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
But, I have no data
Right, hundreds of "gun nuts" listing what dogs they own is "no data".
Good looking pup @Sniper
They grow up fast.
Sniper saysRight, hundreds of "gun nuts" listing what dogs they own is "no data".
If you have such a list, that would be data. I've seen no such list on this thread, at least. Can you show where it's been posted?
I already told you, it's not posted in NYT or WaPo, so you won't believe, since all gun owners lie, they wouldn't be truthful on what type of dog they own, right.?
I haven't seen a list of anything other than the most popular dogs in the US. Did I miss a different list you posted?
I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.
Sniper saysI belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.
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