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the global tempetature uptrentd of the past 50 years ?
we can all agree on the need to decrease pollution
HeadSet sayswe can all agree on the need to decrease pollution
It never was about saving the planet but controlling the people.
According to NOAA records, 2018 has gone down as the 6th warmest year since satellite records started in 1979, which was the lowpoint in a cold cycle. The current warming cycle ended in 2016, the hottest year EVER!
Co2 is at a record high. Anyone have a guess as to why the temperature is dropping?
It's not co2.
The notion that a solar minimum or even grand minimum will do anything to stem the current warming trend has already been largely debunked.
BUT, like cigarettes, the fault lies in the end consumers, and not the producers/promoters who shape national energy policy
It’s still raining and cold, with more rain due tomorrow!
I just got AC for my house, and the kids want to use the pool. We demand global warming now!
Always keep the discussion confined to how AGW is real - never talk about solutions.
Don't talk about Solar Microwaved Power
Zero sunspots in February. It's gonna be a long cold slow death for many going into the potentially lurking maunder minimum. But muh nu green deel!!
That's cause it only makes sense to talk about solutions with people who believe there is a problem to start with.
Evan F. saysOnvacation saysPrepare for colder years to come as the sun's activity cycles down.
The notion that a solar minimum or even grand minimum will do anything to stem the current warming trend has already been largely debunked.
By the same scientists that created AGW in the first place....the funds to "publish or perish" must continue....
So... If you are a true believer make your prediction. Put a disaster and a date.
Even in socialist France, those aren’t going over well. There’s a little movement you may have heard of which got the environmental gas tax rolled back: Gillets Jaunes?
That’s a logical fallacy.
Even if a person doesn’t believe in someone else’s problem, they might agree to a compromised “solution” if that solution seemed reasonable.
MisterLearnToCode saysSure isn't.
And the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
They will be the cheaper than coal by 2021.
Heraclitusstudent saysAnd the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
They will be the cheaper than coal by 2021.
Yes, and we did it without cap and trade or participation in a global scheme to pay developing nations to spew coal smoke. The solution was technology, more of it, not a return to some fabled agrarian lifestyle where nobody flies or has a personal vehicle.
The USA leads the entire world in carbon emission REDUCTIONS, reducing it 25% in only the past five years. That didn’t happen because of environmentalists harassing us to sit in a corner and quietly mold. It happened because technology offered solutions that were better than what we were using and people understood the benefit to using more energy efficient devices.
We're still in in the end of a local maximum irradiance phase, a maunder minimum would certainly bring a new ice age with it. If you use these relatively small deviations to prove or disprove cause then the whole globull warming theory is trash because we have had decades and centuries of much much higher CO2 concentration with much lower temperatures. Can't have it both ways. Surely irradiance is not the only factor but I assert it's a much bigger (if not the defining) factor of global temperatures of all factors we currently know. CO2 is insignificant in comparison.
mell saysWe're still in in the end of a local maximum irradiance phase, a maunder minimum would certainly bring a new ice age with it. If you use these relatively small deviations to prove or disprove cause then the whole globull warming theory is trash because we have had decades and centuries of much much higher CO2 concentration with much lower temperatures. Can't have it both ways. Surely irradiance is not the only factor but I assert it's a much bigger (if not the defining) factor of global temperatures of all factors we currently know. CO2 is insignificant in comparison.
The fact that the current warming is not due to the sun is absolutely incontrovertible.
For example: if it was due to the sun, why would temperature increase faster in the polar regions (like we are seeing now) rather than the opposite?
There are many factors but maunder minimums and ice ages are correlated that is accepted science. If it were CO2 then it should have been much warmer during those periods with much higher CO2 concentration than today. This has nothing to do with arrogance and there are plenty of scientists that are highly critical of GW yet they are derided as being bought by the fossil fuel industry although the majority of the money these days is clearly on the pro GW side.
You can't explain that, and more generally your "GW is trash" statement is pure arrogance and puts people in the idiots box way too fast.
I'm fairly certain all "gilets jaunes" are in favor of fighting global warming.
The fact that the current warming is not due to the sun is absolutely incontrovertible.
And the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
They will be the cheaper than coal by 2021.
The fact that the current warming is not due to the sun is absolutely incontrovertible.
For example: if it was due to the sun, why would temperature increase faster in the polar regions (like we are seeing now) rather than the opposite? You know... these regions that don't see the sun for 6 months/year. Still get warmer than they used to be.
For example: if it was due to the sun, why would temperature increase faster in the polar regions (like we are seeing now) rather than the opposite? You know... these regions that don't see the sun for 6 months/year. Still get warmer than they used to be.
You can't explain that, and more generally your "GW is trash" statement is pure arrogance and puts people in the idiots box way too fast.
Quants made the same mistake w the housing crises. Scientists/mathematicians/programmers are quite bad at being humble.
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The average global temperature dropped by more than half a degree Celsius from February 2016 to February 2018, according to recent NASA data.
Read Newsmax: NASA Data: Earth Cooled by Half a Degree Celsius From '16-'18