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marcus says

Please show picture of kids in a cage that was not taken during the Obama era.

There are photos from both Obama and Trump years, but they aren't small cages.


Here is a pic from 2014, Obama Era. And it is a small cage:

https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ap_181494684547471-e1527610062166.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1600&h=901

These are unpleasant facts, so we should assume it's fake news to make Trump look bad.

No, it is fake news because it isn't true. Even the initial news stories decrying Trump for "children in cages" used images from the Obama era to blame Trump.

marcus says

You are quite right here, Trump was wrong about Obama wanting war with Iran.. Obama does not want to hurt Iran, he would rather give them palates of cash while allowing them to develop nuclear weapons within a decade.

marcus says

You know it's true.

It is false. Obama's signature was never on it. Or are you going say "symbolism" this time too?

Real reasons The Iran Nuclear Deal is a bad one:

1. Iran deal contains sunset clauses, or parts of the agreement that will ultimately expire. Under the deal, the restrictions on Iran's centrifuges go away after 10 years (in 2025) and the limitations on uranium enrichment disappear five years after that (2030).

2. The deal does nothing at all to stop missile development.

Thus, Trump has withdrawn from the deal, imposed sanctions, and has an open invitation for further talks. The idea Trump hates the deal because Obama had done that deal is infantile partisan sniping.

So I suppose you think that every time congress tried to obstruct Obama from accomplishing things and that every time Trump has undone Obama policies, it was always based on strict analysis and not on preventing or taking away Obama accomplishments/legacy ?

So do you feel that every time anyone wanted to undo an Obama policy it was only because Obama did it?

marcus says

HeadSet says

1. Iran deal contains sunset clauses, or parts of the agreement that will ultimately expire. Under the deal, the restrictions on Iran's centrifuges go away after 10 years (in 2025) and the limitations on uranium enrichment disappear five years after that (2030)

So ? THen do a new deal

Sometimes the best deal is do what I say or I’m gonna beat your ass.

marcus says

HeadSet says

1. Iran deal contains sunset clauses, or parts of the agreement that will ultimately expire. Under the deal, the restrictions on Iran's centrifuges go away after 10 years (in 2025) and the limitations on uranium enrichment disappear five years after that (2030)

So ? THen do a new deal.



Better get the deal up front now while we still have a bargaining chip. Won't matter years after sanctions lifted and a nuke now imminent.

Being a Trump Cuck, and calling democrats infantile

I did not call Democrats infantile. I said that cartoon itself was partisan sniping. I am sure there are plenty of Democrats that disagree with the premise of that cartoon (that the sole reason for Trump to back out is because Obama did the deal), and that some pro-Israel Democrats may even agree with Trump backing out of the deal.

marcus says

Speaking of infantile. There is an entire category of trump cartoons depicting him as infantile. I wonder why ?

Maybe because when one do not have any facts to meme with, one just calls people names. Themes that claim stupid (and I include the jibes at AOC here) and racist are the favorites.

You do not think items like that Trump baby balloon in your link are just infantile gestures in themselves?

marcus says

Lol Chris Hayes...

www.youtube.com/embed/7yIhqahzzGg

marcus says

Still looking for a candidate to beat Trump?

RafiMaas says

screaming TDS is not an acceptable answer.

tds. It is what it is.

Trump is a bragger who uses a lot of hyperbole but not near as hyperbolic as all of the losers who feel cheated out of Hillary.

RafiMaas says

I think a discussion on this untruth should be completed before we move on to the next one.

You do you.

This is what every registered Democrat in America is fighting for.

This is what every registered Democrat in America is fighting for.

No, it is what the registered Democrats do not realize their leadership is fighting for.

RafiMaas says

Just know that we haven't finished this discussion so no point in moving on to the next "probable lie"

So his biggest baddest lie was about energy.

What was his second biggest baddest lie?

RafiMaas says

Why can't you discusses the probable lie that I quoted? Have you asked yourself?

It's not a lie you dumbass. You know the US and the world are producing more energy now than ever before? Look at prices if you are unclear about that.

How long would be we #1 if Trump hadn't vastly increased energy production?

You know we are energy self sufficient now right? That is a significant improvement.

So no, it is not a lie for Trump to say his admin as increase energy production thus keeping us at the #1 spot overall and becoming #1 in oil since he took over .

You can read whatever pedantic over interpretation into any comment that Trump makes. Remember, he goes without teleprompters and speaks colloquially. If you willfully misinterpret his meaning you will be consistently lost.

TDS is accurate here.

RafiMaas says

yet we became number 1 in energy under Obama's watch,

Obama was all "drill baby drill!" - right?

www.youtube.com/embed/jaKh14VNhdU

Well well well, looky here at one of Obama's Jive Ass Race baiter. He's a Congress critter now and the Chief Race Hustler in Congress.

False, showing that this meme creator is either stupid, or biased, or most likely both.
Will Hurd was recently re-elected in West TX against strong D opposition, and he is BLACK
There was also a black R female in Utah, defeated by a White Fucking Democratic Male in last election.
marcus says

The personal attacks on Trump not only miss the whole point of his election, they alienate everyone who voted for him.

As a practical matter, it would be more effective to find a different tactic. In fact, simply insulting Trump is the worst possible tactic if you actually want to get anything done.

The point of Trump's election was to express displeasure at oppressive levels of political correctness, at the demand that we accept shitty Hillary even though not even Democrats wanted her, and at the outsourcing of American jobs and mass insourcing of illegals.

Start to address the points that matter, and you'll make friends and get votes.

Insult the voters, and you get nothing.

marcus says

Rape and obstruction? You're talking about the Clintons.

Onvacation says

So his biggest baddest lie was about energy.

What was his second biggest baddest lie?

Anyone got an answer ? Or was the energy lie the biggest baddest onlyest lie he made?

marcus says

It was a movie folks.

And modern Liberals are closer to the people in that movie than conservatives.

RafiMaas says

the key word here is "elect"

Did not read that in OP- was too annoyed as I supported Will Hurd

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