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marcus says

Right you are. Dodged a bullet.

marcus says

Illiterate meme. Trump would never say, "our country has no spirt." or "we don't have a county anymore".

Ignorant? Uneducated? Or both?

Wope! Where is this thread going? I got one for it today...

Onvacation says

Ignorant? Uneducated? Or both?

"Somolia"

marcus says

What high crime or misdemeanor has Trump committed?

Not really expecting an answer.

marcus says

Okay, I'll bite.

Where's the stunning evidence in the Mueller Report?

You know, the key uncovered facts that made Mueller recommend indictments against the President. That Ted Lieu and Madcow imagined the (unspecified, of course) Felonies they heard Mueller describe at the Hearing.

"Read the Mueller Report" has become the Dem's way of trying to distract from the fact that nothing actionable against Trump or his Family regarding Collusion (or any other crime) is in it.

Funny how Mueller's crew couldn't interview Mifsud but Horowitz and Durham already have. Meanwhile, the mad Bearded Hacker is in the hands of the Man who can make amends for his Predecessors' massive interference in our Elections by placing him in the custody of the Winner's Administration.

One gets the impression Mueller wasn't in charge of his own investigation, but handed it all over to the Solid Dem Attorney underlings and simply was the figurehead for the "Insurance Policy" that didn't pay out.

Even the lamestream media couldn't put lipstick on this pig of a Hearing. Too bad Ted Lieu, the Squad, Nadler, and others are still determined to push the Impeachment Mirage. Dems are very divided, both in tactics and goals.

Mueller's testimony was so damning yesterday, the Democrat Fuck Trump Presser afterwards, looked like 4 drunks that just found out they closed their favorite bar.

HonkpilledMaster says

Okay, I'll bite.

Troll
1: to drag a lure behind a moving boat in hopes of catching a fish.
2: a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments
3: a dwarf that lives in caves or under bridges waiting for children to victimize.

Forgotten questions:
Is this part of your Euro-white male need to colonize everything?
BY '"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.' were you expressing White Male contempt and rage against women and people of color, threatening to step on them and leap over them?

Marcus are you that stupid? NO Exhoneration?

You do realize this America and innocence is a immutable right for every American?

Prosecution has to establish Guilt, not Innocence you silly knucklehead!

Again SJW is Politics for Stupid.

There was no reason for any investigation in the first place; there was no crime even being assumed. Nothing Trump was accused of doing is a crime.

Even assuming that Trump Campaign cooperated/colluded with Russia to defeat Hillary this is not a crime.

The entire witch hunt investigation was improper, unethical and a gross abuse of power.

It's frightening to me that someone who is politically unpopular with the bureaucrats and losers can be investigated and harassed when there is no basis for law enforcement to even talk to him.

Luckily for us this shit is going nowhere.

And remember he is a teacher. That’s what’s teaching next generation of Americans how to be good obedient socialist slaves.

Tenpoundbass says

Marcus are you that stupid? NO Exhoneration?

You do realize this America and innocence is a immutable right for every American?

Prosecution has to establish Guilt, not Innocence you silly knucklehead!

Again SJW is Politics for Stupid.

clambo says

Even assuming that Trump Campaign cooperated/colluded with Russia to defeat Hillary this is not a crime.

That was admitted yesterday in an interview. They talked about making election reform laws that would make it a crime.

Liberals convict first make laws after.

marcus says

Like the democrats are now?

Hardcore Far Left: Mueller Did Great, Impeach Trump
Literally Everybody Else:

Everybody Else, Cont.:



Wow, even Maggie Haberman couldn't kiss the frog on this one.

marcus says

Donald Trump: (over and over and over and over) "the Mueller report totally exonerates me !"

Democrat congressmen to Mueller: "Does your report exonerate Trump (obviously referring to but not explicitly Trump's and republican's repeated claim that it does) ?

Mueller: "No"

Republicans lecture Mueller and America: "You idiots, it's not the prosecutors job to exonerate the President !"

Fox News: "Let's see if we can make this the big take away from the hearings ! The last thing we want it to be is the fact that if Trump wasn't the President, he would be indicted for obstruction of justice. "

Fact Check:

When a special counsel with unlimited powers and tens of millions in funding spends 2 years investigating you and comes up with no recommendations for your indictment you've effectively been exonerated.

We rate Donald's Claim above MOSTLY TRUE.

For the Democrats to continue is a Witchhunt. Not a fishing expedition, since Mueller covered so much of the pond there's nowhere left to set the lines.

Putin is enjoying Liberals implode. They are failing around the world. The world is rejoicing.

You keep doing your part OK Marcus. You keep encouraging them to make foolish mistakes we can all laugh at.

Like trying on your best outfit for your Nanna.

marcus says

Impressive logic, considering that we now know that indicting the President was off the table, regardless of how much evidence they had.

As for the big show, sure Mueller's testimony is not as damning as many on the right feared. But do you think anyone was really expecting there to ever be enough votes in the senate (let alone the house) to impeach Trump ?

Impeach Trump on what grounds? High Crimes and Misdemeanors after a 2-year, multi-million, unlimited special counsel investigation failed to find so much as Trump removing the fire warning tag from his Mattress?

marcus says

AGAIN, INDICTING TRUMP WAS NOT A LEGAL OPTION, as long as Trump is POTUS.

He stated publicly after the report was first released. That the Can't impeach sitting president rule had nothing to do with his decision to not indict.

Nice try though.

That was why he had to recant his previous testimony. Look Mueller is not as Sharp as the people's he's locked up in this witch hunt.

He lied under oath but will probably not get in trouble for it.

marcus says

AGAIN, INDICTING TRUMP WAS NOT A LEGAL OPTION, as long as Trump is POTUS.

This isn't hard.

There was nothing preventing Mueller from listing charges he felt Trump should be charged with. Indeed, his job was to investigate Collusion.

Congress would then take the next step, which is to impeach for High Crimes and Misdemeanors referred in his Report.

He failed to find anything criminal to list.

marcus says

Actually all the forms of possible obstruction are detailed . Read the report.

A relevant video from yesterday:

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/why-mueller-didnt-charge-trump-with-obstruction/

Stop saying "Read the Report", I'm not going to waste my life reading hundreds of pages of nonsense. I know it's simply wishful thinking and an attempt by Leftists to make it appear there is some wrong doing in there that is actionable (via Impeachment or otherwise), when we all know there isn't, or we'd be hearing specifics as to what it was, and we would have heard the same things endlessly starting many months ago.

The fact is Trump was accused of no crime, nor obstruction, by Mueller. Everything else is just desperate attempts to keep the door open to impeachment on nothing.

The real story is all the fake news Bombshells that turned out to be completely fabricated or erroneous.

Marcus, that video disproves your point.

Mueller is in deep legal trouble for not actually knowing a damn thing about his own investigation. But the bottom feeders are to obtuse to even realize it.

marcus says

https://www.justsecurity.org/64679/did-trump-and-his-team-successfully-obstruct-muellers-investigation/

Biased website. Sid Blumenthal is a notorious biased impeachment Dem, his name is all over the site.

POTUS can fire the FBI Director for any or no reason. It's an unbounded Presidential power and cannot be Obstruction.
Nor is it Obstruction to ask a private citizen to ask somebody to reconsider Recusing themselves.
The President can even fire and appoint new acting AGs in succession endlessly if he wants. An unbounded power that cannot be Obstruction.

Of course, both McGahn and Lewandowski avoided carrying out the president’s orders.

Were these men fired for not carrying out the orders? Since nobody was fired, and the "orders" were not carried out, it is just a likely those men convinced the President or the President deferred to their judgement on these issues. One cannot be prosecuted for actions one thought about, but never carried out. If this is all you have for "obstruction," you are really digging. No collusion, so lets dig deep to compose a process crime.

HeadSet says

Were these men fired for not carrying out the orders? Since nobody was fired, and the "orders" were not carried out, it is just a likely those men convinced the President or the President deferred to their judgement on these issues. One cannot be prosecuted for actions one thought about, but never carried out. If this is all you have for "obstruction," you are really digging. No collusion, so lets dig deep to compose a process crime.

Yep, it's Straining at Gnats. If we're at this point, talking about things that Trump reportedly said to others that never were implemented, there really is nothing.

If Trump said "Do something, lie to federal officials investigating the matter about the fact I told you to do it and/or that it was ever done." and it actually went down, THEN that might be obstruction of justice.
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If Trump said "I want you to do X. Why can't you do X?" to advisors and it was not done, that's not obstruction. If it was, almost everybody with advisors/legal counsel would be guilty of obstruction.