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105717   clambo   2019 Oct 13, 9:55pm  

I remember when President Johnson declared "a war on poverty"; after trillions spent, the poor have won.

Importing millions of poor who have poor children who underachieve academically isn't helping of course.

Poor being paid $ per child is an incentive to produce more poor; I know a female who 1. never worked 2. have several children from several fathers 3. scrape by with various programs 4. have sex with men in the neighborhood, then ask for some money to pay bills, etc.

I know another who is a little bit smarter; because she works a bullshit McJob she can qualify for the "earned income credit"=free money for having children. Last year she got about $10,000 in free money for having 3 children.

Lower taxes positively cause me to have more money to invest; tax advantages of Roth IRA, SEP-IRA and the Health Savings Account definitely influenced my behavior regarding my money.

The one many guys ignore is the Health Savings Account (HSA). If you have a high deductible health insurance plan, you can have an HSA.

Any HSA contribution is deductible from income; it's before your calculated AGI, it always reduces your taxes and you can put up to $4400 in it depending on your age.

You can invest the HSA in stock mutual funds for capital appreciation; you can leave it untouched until age 65. After age 65, you can spend it on anything or let it keep growing like an IRA.
105718   RWSGFY   2019 Oct 13, 10:19pm  

clambo says
After age 65, you can spend it on anything


Wait a sec: on anything? So it's "on medical expenses only until 65" and "on anything - after"? This is a detail I overlooked. Makes HSA even better deal than I thought.
105719   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2019 Oct 14, 7:37am  

The notorious Corn Pop.

105720   Onvacation   2019 Oct 14, 7:38am  

SunnyvaleCA says
The problem is that when the poor are handed money, they fritter it away


And they will breed.

While a wealthy person will plan a pregnancy, making sure they can afford the childcare and education expenses before going off of birth control, the poor person will just fuck and say oops, then depend on the system to care for them and their kinder. The system creates a downward spiral of more depenDance.

We should have soup kitchens and dormitories with hot showers for the transient and then make them transition into some kind of productive job, picking up trash and bagging groceries if nothing else. If they refuse work they should not be allowed to eat and sleep in the cities but bused out to "lazy camps" in the country.

I know the solution above has some serious issues, but giving the "underclass" (never permanent, some rise out and some are always falling into) money and a place to live just perpetuates a bad situation that will end in idiocracy.
105721   Onvacation   2019 Oct 14, 7:40am  

clambo says
have sex with men in the neighborhood, then ask for some money to pay bills

Is it prostitution only if you ask for the money up front?
105722   Onvacation   2019 Oct 14, 7:44am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Is Trump a Little Bit Like Jim Jones - or Exactly Like Jim Jones And Is Going Guyana Any Day Now?


Only if you drink the Kool-Aid.

It's a puppet show. enjoy the entertainment.
105723   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Oct 14, 8:52am  

jazz_music says
Patrick says
Trump's actions are giving more money to poor US citizens by bringing back manufacturing from China and slowing the influx of illegals from Mexico who drive down wages.

I agree with your economic analysis but I do not see real growth of jobs to the poor.

Too many Walmart and temp jobs and gig economy jobs enriching only Silicon Valley headquartered operations. The economy is a fairy tale to promote status quo of optimal extraction. Murdock bought the WSJ for a reason.

Starbucks and Costco are two bright spot exceptions, good for them, but they do not represent the economy.

In other words I am not at all convinced that these jobs you say are happening are really truly happening.


If one isn’t hustling and making money in the current economy, they never will.

Unemployment rate and average wage say you are wrong.

I think your tune will never change. I think you are mediocre at best and satisfied with the low level life that SS disability provides you. Worse yet, you project that lifestyle into others.

Meh to be you. Cheers to anyone taking advantage of the best economy of our lifetime.
105724   Bd6r   2019 Oct 14, 9:06am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
We have a president who regularly disparages and blames the media, calling it “fake,” “false,” and “phony,”

I kinda agree with him on most media, most of which are corporate shills without a single brain cell. I do get though that his reasoning for coming to this conclusion might be different from mine, but that is probably OK.
105725   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Oct 14, 9:08am  

You mean CA liberal policies have failed where biggest poverty exists and streets lined with bums?

But don’t worry, NPR is still under impression that gays being lonely is a worst problem and their loneliness can be fixed with tax dollars... priorities of the faggot left.
105726   socal2   2019 Oct 14, 9:43am  

You were saying something about a cult?

Have you already forgotten the Obama years?

www.youtube.com/embed/TW9b0xr06qA
105727   Tenpoundbass   2019 Oct 14, 10:15am  

This wasn't about foreign connections or working for foreign companies. Can you rephrase the question please?
105728   Tenpoundbass   2019 Oct 14, 10:16am  

Also the biggest story is Creepy Joe lied and said his son wasn't working for the Chicoms, how can he quit if he wasn't?
105729   Ceffer   2019 Oct 14, 10:45am  

Jim Jones was a small time piker. Trump is HITLER SQUARED! No demon from hell, no pathologically demented, murderous leader in history, can even touch the manifest, mindless and committed evil of TRUMP! IMPEACH TRUMP!
105730   Ceffer   2019 Oct 14, 10:48am  

How nice of Hunter. "I'll stop engaging in politically motivated bribery, influence, corruption and collusion for a while if you elect my Dad!" Now there's a mensch.
105731   Bd6r   2019 Oct 14, 10:52am  

Ceffer says
I'll stop engaging in politically motivated bribery, influence, corruption and collusion for a while if you elect my Dad!

are you sure it is not in reverse: I will engage in corruption again only if my dad is elected because then I will have "get out of jail free" card?
105732   HeadSet   2019 Oct 14, 11:01am  

The Trumps had business expertise long before Donald Trump ran for office. The ONLY expertise Hunter Biden has is influence with his dad.
105733   Ceffer   2019 Oct 14, 11:09am  

6rdB says
are you sure it is not in reverse: I will engage in corruption again only if my dad is elected because then I will have "get out of jail free" card?


You are correct. It should be 'suspend' until Dad gets my "get out of jail free" card when he is elected. Precision politics.
105734   Ceffer   2019 Oct 14, 11:21am  

Exactly.
105735   clambo   2019 Oct 14, 12:09pm  

@ arm hk now

After age 65 you can use the HSA money for anything you wish. It is taxed like a regular IRA.

After age 65 you can no longer contribute to the HSA. At age 65 you go onto Medicare.

HSA is a fantastic investment; I ran into a Fidelity store and put the max in last April ($4450) I think it was. Fidelity allows you to invest the HSA in anything so I bought Fidelity Contrafund.

The reason I bought the HSA was primarily for tax avoidance; if you are on Obamacare and you have just a bit too much income, you pay your premiums back 100%.

The trigger for this is having an AGI that is 401% of the poverty level.

The HSA reduces you AGI no matter what your situation is; my primary goal was to get my AGI down so I owed less for my Obamacare (I still got screwed=$8000+)

Luckily in 2019 you are 1. not required to have health insurance 2. there is no penalty for not having health insurance.

You may decide to drop your health insurance if the premiums are high; mine were $924/month in 2019 so I dropped it after 4 months.

So, I can only contribute $1500 in 2019 to my HSA (since I didn't have insurance for the entire year)
105736   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 14, 12:16pm  

Tim Aurora says
That is very much debateable. Let us have the same ethics rules for everyone.


Please show me the video where Trump bragged to a think tank that he got a prosecutor looking into Jared or Eric's business dealings fired in another country, or he'd withhold US Aid.

Also, isn't it time Obama weighed in on his VP, who he put in charge of Ukraine policy?
105737   Ceffer   2019 Oct 14, 12:25pm  

Tim Aurora says
That is very much debateable.

"That is very much fake-able."

There, fixed it for you.
105738   RWSGFY   2019 Oct 14, 1:15pm  

clambo says
@ arm hk now

After age 65 you can use the HSA money for anything you wish. It is taxed like a regular IRA.

After age 65 you can no longer contribute to the HSA. At age 65 you go onto Medicare.

HSA is a fantastic investment; I ran into a Fidelity store and put the max in last April ($4450) I think it was. Fidelity allows you to invest the HSA in anything so I bought Fidelity Contrafund.

The reason I bought the HSA was primarily for tax avoidance; if you are on Obamacare and you have just a bit too much income, you pay your premiums back 100%.

The trigger for this is having an AGI that is 401% of the poverty level.

The HSA reduces you AGI no matter what your situation is; my primary goal was to get my AGI down so I owed less for my Obamacare (I still got screwed=$8000+)

Luckily in 2019 you are 1. not required to have health insurance 2. there is no penalty for not having health insurance.

You may decide to drop your health insur...


It basically sounds like IRA for people who don't get any tax advantage from IRA because their income is too high. With added benefits of being able to spend the money tax-free on healthcare if the need arises before 65. Awesome vehicle, totally agree.
105739   Shaman   2019 Oct 14, 1:27pm  

Tim Aurora says
Next thing you will complain about "no Trump kids have the name Hunter" Crap argument. Straw man
105740   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 14, 1:53pm  

Tim Aurora says
No video is needed for the same ethics. You are after Biden because Hunter had a job which gave the impression that he was using his father's influence. Let be the same rule for Trump kids.


Eric, Don Jr., Ivanka, and Jared were all involved in various businesses long before Trump ran.

There is no proof (not even a firm allegation) that any of Trump's relations profited from his presidency.

Where as we have Biden bragging about getting a prosecutor fired who was looking into the company his completely inexperienced son was a Board Member of. This is confirmed by Shonkin, the former prosecutor, who unlike his successor, doesn't drive a Bentley and is by all accounts not well off. Additionally, Biden lied claiming he never discussed Burisma with his son; there is a pic of him, Hunter, and Devon Archer (another Burisma Board Member) golfing together in the Hamptons. Finally, Hunter literally has no plausible reason for either being appointed to the board of a foreign energy company OR how he managed to get over a billion in investments from China in a week. That's a deal most superpowered Wall Street veterans with massive international connections and a great track record of decades, would have a hard time getting.

OccasionalCortex says
No, he is after Biden because we have HARD PROOF that is what was going on, no 'impression' necessary. You are just trying to frame it otherwise in order to nullify the video and it is impact as said HARD PROOF.


Exactly. Democrats are comparing a non-actually existent hypothetical with something that happened and is public record.
105741   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 14, 2:33pm  

Tim Aurora says
There is no proof that Hunter Biden did anything wrong either. It is just an ethics question. Do not deal with any foreign entity.

Nope. If JOE Biden threatened to withhold Congressional-approved Aid to Ukraine to prevent an investigation into his son, it's definitely misconduct at the least. It's something the public should know BEFORE electing him President.

Joe Biden has a history of character issues, including misrepresenting his education and plagarism.

www.youtube.com/embed/QBlahhX0e4Y
105742   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 14, 2:37pm  

Biden isn't going to be the nominee anyway. His numbers are collapsing anywhere there aren't enough people who respect him for being the White Guy who stood up to Corn Pop.

Now two Quinnipiac, and the latest IBD and Economist/YouGov have their most recent polls with Warren ahead.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
105743   Onvacation   2019 Oct 14, 2:38pm  

Tim Aurora says
You are after Biden because Hunter had a job which gave the impression that he was using his father's influence.


fixed it for ya.
105744   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Oct 14, 2:45pm  

Obama/Biden gave Ukraine millions in exchange for "heavy consulting fees for Hunter Biden", and somehow liberals think that kind of shit is ok. Yeah, I guess other peoples tax dollars aren't valued. It's not like it's my blood sweat and tears that go into making money so some rich liberal fucks can just give it away. Mother fuckers!!!!
105745   Bd6r   2019 Oct 14, 2:53pm  

I get it. Everyone BUT fucking white males is a victim. They are quite efficient oppressors!
105746   richwicks   2019 Oct 14, 2:55pm  

The working class are the victims. For some stupid reason, our propaganda keeps insisting these people are exclusively white. :)

And it's not "white rage", this is justifiable working class rage. They've been screwed by NAFTA and their government. They want to make this a "white issue", because, damn, can't get the working class co-operating, they'll overthrow the entire rotten system.
105747   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Oct 14, 2:56pm  

Lol@washington Post
105748   richwicks   2019 Oct 14, 2:58pm  

I like how receiving $50,000 a month "working" at a job which he's entirely unqualified for, in a nation he doesn't speak the language, when he's a known cocaine addict - is now "work". That's work apparently.

Hey, I could probably learn to enjoy cocaine, and I don't speak Ukrainian either, also I do have SOME experience in the energy industry (but electrical), but I wasn't thrown out of the Navy and my dad isn't vice president, nor has he ever been.

Can I get the "job"? I'll do it for only $25K a month :)
105749   Bd6r   2019 Oct 14, 3:03pm  

I wonder why R's are suddenly so successful? Population tired of GLOBOHOMO OPPRESSION circus? Jobs in fracking/oil industry lead to understanding that green deal D's will kill the (considerable) prosperity that goes with oil? People tired of ORANGEMAN IS WORSE THAN HITLER nonsense?
105750   Bd6r   2019 Oct 14, 3:07pm  

There is the issue of affirmative action, which is the only legislative discriminatory system left. It is not an issue of past like Indian genocide, or even an issue which relates to individual behavior (like murder rate differences between races where a law-abiding black person does not have anything to do with it). Affirmative action demonstrably discriminates agains whites and Asians as evidenced by school admission scores.
105751   richwicks   2019 Oct 14, 3:10pm  

6rdB says
I wonder why R's are suddenly so successful? Population tired of GLOBOHOMO OPPRESSION circus? Jobs in fracking/oil industry lead to understanding that green deal D's will kill the (considerable) prosperity that goes with oil? People tired of ORANGEMAN IS WORSE THAN HITLER nonsense?


1 data point doesn't indicate a trend. Also, the governor is very likely to remain a Democrat. Also, how many turn overs in seats where there?

Seems like they just kept the status quo to me, honestly. The headline doesn't match the article.
105752   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 14, 3:12pm  

Tim Aurora says
One can crib how the British corrupted the whole world by destroying very wealthy countries such as China and India. Or how America destroyed Vietnam or how whites killed the American Indians or how the blacks kill more whites than whites kill blacks. Or how the Asians cannot get into Harvard since they are discriminated against. Or how the capitalist pigs suck blood from poor communists.


Or who White People ended the tearing of children's still beating hearts out by the hundreds (sometimes thousands) to feed the Sun or Rain demon by Aztec Barbarians.
Or the White People who are responsible for at least doubling the lifespan of every African, and more than doubling that of Native Americans, Indians, Chinese, etc.
Or the White People responsible for the greatest expansion of living standards in human history.
Or the White People who created the first Civilization to ban the Slave Trade, and then Slavery itself.
105753   richwicks   2019 Oct 14, 3:13pm  

That's funny, on Washington Post, they are asking for $1 a month for an electronic copy. I wonder if anybody pays for it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

I think that's kind of funny, that they dare to ask for money for propaganda. Does anybody not realize what they are by now?
105754   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 14, 3:13pm  

Tim Aurora says
That is just hearsay and right wing acquisitions. On the other hand Trump kids are doling out favors for money

Evidence, on the level of Biden bragging to a think tank seminar that he got a prosecutor looking into them from another country fired or he'd not disburse aid money?
105755   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Oct 14, 3:24pm  

This is the video. Liberal media is literally talking about these videos, talk about liberal priorities.

https://patrick.net/post/1327897/2019-10-14-fake-news-is-like-an-angry-wasp-nest-over-this-video

liberals don't denounce violence against Republicans, Americans, Conservatives, Religion, Families, etc...
105756   richwicks   2019 Oct 14, 3:40pm  

OccasionalCortex says
Looks like you didn't even read the article.


No, I didn't. I read this though

"Democratic incumbent John Bel Edwards, a pro-life moderate, was unable to avoid a runoff, attracting just 46.6 percent of the 'jungle primary' vote. The two leading Republicans in the contest racked up 51 percent of the vote, with the top GOP vote-getter, businessman Eddie Rispone, advancing to directly challenge the governor in November."

OccasionalCortex says
Gaining a super-majority isn't 'keeping the status quo'. Winning seats with 60% - 80% majorities isn't to sneeze at either.


What was the PREVIOUS percentage? Keeping the status quo just means keeping roughly the same demographic. If it changes by 20%, that is a major change - 10% not so much although it's significant. If it's swung from Democrat to Republican, that would be a pretty big change if it was done by a moderate margin.

OccasionalCortex says
Perhaps you are confusing the Soft Dictatorship in Cali with the far more competitive political environment in Gumboland for some reason?


This isn't a soft dictatorship, it's run by a mafia. Heck, I went to the California Republican straw poll in 2007, and when it became obvious Ron Paul was sure to win it, they just cancelled the straw poll. The vote didn't technically matter, but they wouldn't even allow it.

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