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HeadSet says

And the fact that Biden threatened to withhold over a billion in aid until the man investigating his son's company was removed

Except that is speculative and possibly totally untrue. Seems very unlikely. The guy Biden wanted removed was known to be corrupt.

Also, I don't believe Biden would do that. Btw, I'm not a big Biden supporter.

Jazz, all I really care about is shared peace and prosperity, and Trump is delivering that, whatever his personal faults might be. Those faults are insignificant compared to how he has benefited all of us, including you and all Democrats.

Record low unemployment, rising wages, record high stock market, getting us out of the eternal quagmire of the Mideast.

Unlike Democrats, Trump also has the guts to talk about how outsourcing US manufacturing to China and insourcing scab labor from Mexico has devastated the US middle class.

Trump has been an absolutely fantastic president because he's not part of the corrupt machine. That machine desperately wants to get rid of him because he is messing with their scams.

Remember that people didn't vote for Trump because they particularly like him. The did it because they really didn't want Hillary. But we got these yuge bonuses because he is president.

Democrats can turn it around in an instant if they start picking up on his themes of bring manufacturing back to the US and keeping illegals out.

I do have a couple of criticisms of Trump:

1. Way too chummy with the Saudi fucks who massacred thousands of Americans on 9/11.
2. Focuses on the wall instead of imprisoning everyone who employs illegals, which would be way more effective.

Patrick says

Those faults are insignificant compared to how he has benefited all of us

You're seeing the world through a very different lens than most of us.

Tax cuts for the wealthy. Massive deficits. Idiotic trade deals. Distractions and lies.

Oh yeah, it's party time !

marcus says

You're seeing the world through a very different lens than most of us.

How are you investments doing?

How is the job situation for ordinary people?

Any new wars in the Mideast under Trump?

It's kind of a pity that it took Trump to deliver these things, but it's only because the Democratic Party has been infiltrated and corrupted by global capital, which just wants to divide us all using race, gender, sex, or whatever else it takes so we cannot unify.

Let's work together. We want the same things, more or less.

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Patrick says

It's kind of a pity that it took Trump to deliver these things

You've been around long enough to know that what the stock market does is largely independent of who the President is at the time.

Same is true for the continuation of the low interest rate environment and employment trends that were in place since 2011 (and before that in the case of the "carry trade.")

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Patrick says

infiltrated and corrupted by global capital, which just wants to divide us all using race, gender, sex, or whatever else it takes so we cannot unify.

Patrick says

Let's work together. We want the same things, more or less.

Yeah, I'm not far left, but I'm not down for all the hate.

Hate and fear is the sickest recipe for bringing people together.

Fuck that !!

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Btw, file this under transparent

Patrick says

infiltrated and corrupted by global capital, which just wants to divide us all using race, gender, sex, or whatever else it takes so we cannot unify.

Right.

Globohomo ? Really ?

Dude, you really could be more honest with yourself.

Agreed!

Remember that the head of Facebook advertising said that Russian ads on Facebook were designed not to elect Trump, but only to divide us and therefore weaken us.

China's doing the same thing, in my experience with running this site.

They can't win militarily, but they can win by dividing us. Let's not let them.

I know you don't like Trump, and I can see why people wouldn't like him in general. But until the Democrats recover from their corruption and support for anti-US policies, we don't have a lot of other choice.

Tulsi, maybe. But no way are the globalists going to let he name appear on the ballot. She's already told way too much truth about Saudi Arabia, for instance.

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Re: GloboHomo

Maybe you need to get out of San Fran. They really aren't taking over the world.

Why get out of San Fran? I'm nearly the sole human in the whole Bay Area who is not bleeding from the eyes with insane levels of HATE for Trump.

Oddsmakers have Trump 2.5 times more likely to win than Warren, the most likely contender. Biden is 5x less likely, others worse.
I gave up on looking at Polls after the last election. If they can be that far off, they're useless.

marcus says

Globohomo ? Really ?

rocketjoe79 says

Oddsmakers have Trump 2.5 times more likely to win than Warren, the most likely contender. Biden is 5x less likely, others worse

I assume you understand why these are what they are? Any individual Dem also has to first get the Democratic nomination (which is wide open right now) where as Trump probably has a 95%+ chance at getting the Republican nomination. So these are not head to head odds, but rather two step process for Dem and essentially a one step for Trump.

rdm says

Any individual Dem also has to first get the Democratic nomination

Who's your dog in the fight? As a registered Democrat, I'm voting for Tulsi!

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Onvacation says

Who's your dog in the fight? As a registered Democrat, I'm voting for Tulsi!

As you may be aware not a fan of cults, No party affiliation.

rdm says

Onvacation says

Who's your dog in the fight? As a registered Democrat, I'm voting for Tulsi!

As you may be aware not a fan of cults, No party affiliation.

I get that. And it's a fair stance. However I don't think it's about voting for Trump, it's about voting against the modern Dems/left who are hell bent on destroying the future of every Caucasian/Asian, straight male, Christian and nuclear family.

Tim Aurora says

Onvacation says

Who's your dog in the fight? As a registered Democrat, I'm voting for Tulsi!

You are trolling, aren't you. As a Trump supporter , you are trying to create a rift in the Democratic Primary

How is he trolling? He and many here have said they would vote for Tulsi over Trump. Since the Republican party is shit in CA, he can register and vote for a Democrat during the primaries.

Unfortunately by the time CA goes to the ballot, Tulsi is likely to be all but out if she isn't already. Either way, he'd be voting for the best actual candidate attempting to get the nomination that would stand a chance to beat Trump with regards to Dems. You should be rooting for that and not asking if he's trolling.

If Tulsi switched parties i would vote for her, but as it stands I am not comfortable with giving any power like that to the Democrats. They’ve shown nothing but contempt for conservatives and a complete dedication to abusing the power they have to oppress their political opponents. They even sicced the IRS on people who were political rivals. They’ve overstepped as a party and now are just a safe space for Marxists and haters. I can’t vote for any Democrat no matter how much I might personally like them.

rocketjoe79 says

Oddsmakers have Trump 2.5 times more likely to win than Warren, the most likely contender. Biden is 5x less likely, others worse.
I gave up on looking at Polls after the last election. If they can be that far off, they're useless.

Also, look at the fundraising:
Trump $245MM
Bernie $74MM
Warren $60MM
Buttigieg $51MM
Steyer $50MM
Biden $37MM
Harris $36MM
The rest are under $20MM each

I realize the dems haven't "Cranked up" their fundraising machine, and the heavy hitters will wait until after the final candidate is chosen. But money can win elections, and it doesn't look good for Dems.

And this: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/04/wall-street-shuns-chuck-schumer-donation-requests-as-elizabeth-warren-surges.html

TrumpingTits says

Only Congress can do anything like you mention, unfortunately.

I think he can EO Poll watchers, with full access anywhere the ballots goes, they have access to follow along. Don't forget Trump is a wonderful disrupter.

If I were him, I would ban people convicted of a Federal Crime from voting in the election. That would eliminate the illegal aliens that came here illegally before they got their papers.

Quigley says

If Tulsi switched parties i would vote for her, but as it stands I am not comfortable with giving any power like that to the Democrats.

I get why some people like Tulsi for taking it to Clinton and not being ugly like the rest of the Democrat females. But beyond her foreign policy, she is a pretty extremist Left-Winger on most issues.

- Open borders
- Pro DACA
- Medicare for all
- Abortion on demand
- Ending Electoral College
- Supports Reparations
- Free College
- Banning Nuclear power

socal2 says

not being ugly like the rest of the Democrat females

This I fear is one of the things blinding some (her hotness for a politician at least - much hotter women out there though) and the fact she seems to spit out a relatively coherent thoughts without a teleprompter or speech writer. That doesn't make a good leader though and some of your bullet points are cringe worthy.

Trump having 3 years on the inside now, she'd get her ass handed to her in a debate. He's already defeated a female opponent and wasn't exactly nice in the process. So it's pretty clear that women don't mind his personality as much as the media likes to portray how "mean" he is. I think Tulsi would end up stuttering and stammering when Trump keeps throwing bomb after bomb.

Honestly, the Democrats should really start focusing on 2024 as crazy as that sounds. I've voted D before and would/will in the future likely. The Democrats pipeline seems absolutely dried up. They don't seem well run. There really is little hope in 2020 and at some point it might be best to cut your losses and restructure the whole god damn thing. Trump forced the Republicans to do it, but I don't see even one Democrat that can do anything in the next 5 years. They might want to play the long game. Besides Bush Sr. we're in an era of 2 term POTUS. I don't see 2020 bucking the trend like Bush Sr.

The Democrats are basically a Political Machine at this point.

As far as I can tell, their platform is basically "Let us continue to receive lobbyist money, go back to one-sided trade, let in all the illegals, and more foreign wars just like the good old days of Clinton-Bush-Obama!"

Tim Aurora says

Onvacation says

Who's your dog in the fight? As a registered Democrat, I'm voting for Tulsi!

You are trolling, aren't you. As a Trump supporter , you are trying to create a rift in the Democratic Primary

No. I like some of the things Tulsi says, "stop the wars" "investigate Saudi involvement in 911", plus she would be the youngest and best looking president we ever had.

Who would you like to see win the nomination?

Onvacation says

No. I like some of the things Tulsi says, "stop the wars" "investigate Saudi involvement in 911", plus she would be the youngest and best looking president we ever had.

That is not enough to cover up all of her other awful Left-wing positions.

She is as extremist as the rest of them on the debate stage.

socal2 says

Onvacation says

No. I like some of the things Tulsi says, "stop the wars" "investigate Saudi involvement in 911", plus she would be the youngest and best looking president we ever had.

That is not enough to cover up all of her other awful Left-wing positions.

She is as extremist as the rest of them on the debate stage.

Yes I am also uncomfortable with her policy decisions. She seems far more reasonable than her peers, but still is adopting idiotic policy positions. I think she either has no clue about these policies and why they won’t work, or just is pandering like mad to the socialist base of the Democrat party. She would have been better off imho if she’d stuck more closely to a Biden-like message tempered with some of that trademark Aloha. Coulda won the nomination. But as it stands, she’s going to lose badly.

socal2 says

That is not enough to cover up all of her other awful Left-wing positions.

She is as extremist as the rest of them on the debate stage.

She's also not stupid. She knows Trump won with men. She seems confident in herself and likely knows she's a decent looking lady. She's picking strategic parts of Trump's platform and implementing them into her own. A lot of the left wants less wars too, but can't get over the meanness of Trump to vote for him. So she gets them as well. But to get big Blue $$$ behind her, she's going to have to have some of these wacky, bullshit leftist ideas.

It's a clever strategy, but at the end of the day I don't see it working. And even if it does, she's outmatched in a general.

WookieMan says

socal2 says

That is not enough to cover up all of her other awful Left-wing positions.

She is as extremist as the rest of them on the debate stage.

She's also not stupid. She knows Trump won with men. She seems confident in herself and likely knows she's a decent looking lady. She's picking strategic parts of Trump's platform and implementing them into her own. A lot of the left wants less wars too, but can't get over the meanness of Trump to vote for him. So she gets them as well. But to get big Blue $$$ behind her, she's going to have to have some of these wacky, bullshit leftist ideas.

It's a clever strategy, but at the end of the day I don't see it working. And even if it does, she's outmatched in a general.

The demoncrats and lamestream media don't even include her in the polls anymore - she has no chance against the leftoid politbureau machine. She should go 3rd party.

Quigley says

Yes I am also uncomfortable with her policy decisions. She seems far more reasonable than her peers,

I think that just goes to show how extremist all of the Democrat nominees have become.

There is no way people like her and the rest of the goof-troop can pander that hard to the Left and then try to come back to the center in the General election.