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Let's get it straight, Kathleen Kennedy, not Disney Inc, ruined Star Wars
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2019 Dec 17, 10:57am 9,924 views 97 comments
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socal2
2019 Dec 17, 1:35pm
Shaman says
This....
After watching (and enjoying) 4 episodes of The Mandalorian - I am even more mad at how shitty the last movie was. There is so much interesting material in the Star Wars universe they could explore. You really have to try hard to fuck it up like they did with the Last Jedi.
NuttBoxer saysI thought the last film was great,
Philistine!
It was utter crap.
Lots of special effects couldn’t obscure the absolute lack of a coherent story that was worth telling.
This....
After watching (and enjoying) 4 episodes of The Mandalorian - I am even more mad at how shitty the last movie was. There is so much interesting material in the Star Wars universe they could explore. You really have to try hard to fuck it up like they did with the Last Jedi.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 17, 1:46pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 17, 1:46pm
I didn't have any trouble following the story. You guys just sound like a bunch of grumpy old men who are bitter against women. If the Star Wars universe fits perfectly together(movies, animated series, books, etc), I'll eat my fucking hat after shitting in it.
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Booger
2019 Dec 17, 2:56pm
Booger
2019 Dec 17, 2:56pm
Rin says
Yeah, but once the franchise started losing money, they did nothing.
So let's stop with the Disney bashing. For all intensive purposes, they did the right thing. Let Lucasfilm run itself and it can make money for the parent company w/o needing to micromanage the organization.
Yeah, but once the franchise started losing money, they did nothing.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 3:05pm
WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 3:05pm
NuttBoxer says
I tend to agree with you. Shit movies are made all the time. Not saying ANY Star Wars movie justifies a Oscar for best picture, but that seems to be what a lot of the critics hold as the standard. It's fucking Sci-Fi. If it was entertaining to you, enjoy it. If not, oh well. It wasn't meant to win awards. Frankly, it's a children's movie. So adults, including myself, commenting on it is kind of hysterical. I mean we all are aware that Disney is a corporation designed to entertain children and part parents from their money, right?
I didn't have any trouble following the story. You guys just sound like a bunch of grumpy old men who are bitter against women. If the Star Wars universe fits perfectly together(movies, animated series, books, etc), I'll eat my fucking hat after shitting in it.
I tend to agree with you. Shit movies are made all the time. Not saying ANY Star Wars movie justifies a Oscar for best picture, but that seems to be what a lot of the critics hold as the standard. It's fucking Sci-Fi. If it was entertaining to you, enjoy it. If not, oh well. It wasn't meant to win awards. Frankly, it's a children's movie. So adults, including myself, commenting on it is kind of hysterical. I mean we all are aware that Disney is a corporation designed to entertain children and part parents from their money, right?
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RC2006
2019 Dec 17, 3:21pm
RC2006
2019 Dec 17, 3:21pm
My 10yo also said it sucked but then again he said Disneyland sucked after a few lines along with his brothers. He said it sucked but he likes the last two trilogies and the side movies including lando, and he really likes mandilorian.
Mandilorian is saving the franchise and should do well with toys and video games.
Mandilorian is saving the franchise and should do well with toys and video games.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 4:30pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 4:30pm
I hear Mandilorian is pretty good.
Unfortunately, because of Woke Culture, Disney could not fire Kathleen Kennedy and her entourage of wholly SJW female writers.
Unfortunately, because of Woke Culture, Disney could not fire Kathleen Kennedy and her entourage of wholly SJW female writers.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 17, 4:42pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 17, 4:42pm
NuttBoxer says
Story plot it... if you’re so sure of this. It’s a fucking mess! It has no COHERENT story. It’s just a mash up of vignettes that don’t really work together to form a plot. The characters are meaningless and don’t make you care about them.
I didn't have any trouble following the story. You guys just sound like a bunch of grumpy old men who are bitter against women. If the Star Wars universe fits perfectly together(movies, animated series, books, etc), I'll eat my fucking hat after shitting in it.
Story plot it... if you’re so sure of this. It’s a fucking mess! It has no COHERENT story. It’s just a mash up of vignettes that don’t really work together to form a plot. The characters are meaningless and don’t make you care about them.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 17, 5:11pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 17, 5:11pm
Resistance takes down Drednaught(pretty cool), and is chased by New Order in a LOOONG chase scene that lasts whole movie.
Rae tries to get Luke to teach her, ends up learning on her own, but reminds Luke he's still needed, and finds she has a strange bond with Kylo Ren.
Side quest filler
Rae faces Snoke(disappointing bad guy, wanted more story on him).
Kylo kills Snoke, they find themselves on different paths despite similarities.
Luke stages the biggest, baddest comeback since entering Jaba's palace(AW-SOME!!)
Resistance escapes to fight another day.
The stuff with Luke, Rae, and Kylo Ren is where it's at in this movie. The rest I could take or leave. I'm not a baby-with-the-bathwater guy, I can put up with some not so great, and still enjoy the really great.
Rae tries to get Luke to teach her, ends up learning on her own, but reminds Luke he's still needed, and finds she has a strange bond with Kylo Ren.
Side quest filler
Rae faces Snoke(disappointing bad guy, wanted more story on him).
Kylo kills Snoke, they find themselves on different paths despite similarities.
Luke stages the biggest, baddest comeback since entering Jaba's palace(AW-SOME!!)
Resistance escapes to fight another day.
The stuff with Luke, Rae, and Kylo Ren is where it's at in this movie. The rest I could take or leave. I'm not a baby-with-the-bathwater guy, I can put up with some not so great, and still enjoy the really great.
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EBGuy
2019 Dec 17, 5:13pm
This is what happens when you channel Judith Butler instead of Joseph Campbell.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 17, 5:35pm
Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 17, 5:35pm
If they were smart, they should have spun off a progressive division called something else. Free to explore every social issue on the planet to their hearts content.
Then spun off even yet another Studio that was dedicated to the over 16 crowd. And left Disney as it was.
Then spun off even yet another Studio that was dedicated to the over 16 crowd. And left Disney as it was.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 5:49pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 5:49pm
At worst, I expected #TheRiseOfSkywalker to be a well made movie that I didn't like or whose story choices I disagreed with. I was not expecting a genuinely bad movie with video game plotting, thin characters, weak action and endless exposition of no consequence. Heartbreaking...
— Scott Mendelson (@ScottMendelson) December 17, 2019
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Rin
2019 Dec 17, 8:07pm
Rin
2019 Dec 17, 8:07pm
Booger says
Officially, only the Solo movie was a flop. In terms of dollar amounts, the others did well, despite all the backlash.
And as a result of Solo's failure, the top brass at Disney did want to slow down the various releases, which the Kennedy clan (I mean cronies) have agreed to.
Unfortunately, Disney execs have exactly one thing in its arsenal and that's to fire Kathleen Kennedy.
Still, look at the record ...
Force Awakens, $2B worldwide gross
Rogue One, $1B worldwide gross
Last Jedi, $1.3B worldwide gross
The bitch has made money for the mother company and thus, unless we see a few more bombs like Solo, she'll be at the helm. Remember, Disney execs are bean counters, not Sci-Fi fans.
Rin saysSo let's stop with the Disney bashing. For all intensive purposes, they did the right thing. Let Lucasfilm run itself and it can make money for the parent company w/o needing to micromanage the organization.
Yeah, but once the franchise started losing money, they did nothing.
Officially, only the Solo movie was a flop. In terms of dollar amounts, the others did well, despite all the backlash.
And as a result of Solo's failure, the top brass at Disney did want to slow down the various releases, which the Kennedy clan (I mean cronies) have agreed to.
Unfortunately, Disney execs have exactly one thing in its arsenal and that's to fire Kathleen Kennedy.
Still, look at the record ...
Force Awakens, $2B worldwide gross
Rogue One, $1B worldwide gross
Last Jedi, $1.3B worldwide gross
The bitch has made money for the mother company and thus, unless we see a few more bombs like Solo, she'll be at the helm. Remember, Disney execs are bean counters, not Sci-Fi fans.
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Rin
2019 Dec 17, 8:27pm
Rin
2019 Dec 17, 8:27pm
NoCoupForYou says
Then let's hope it completely bombs at the box office because that's the only way where Disney will sack Kennedy.
If it makes even $1B due to insipid movie goers who'll see anything on the big screen, then Kathleen will be tenured at Lucasfilm.
Remember, it's a wholly owned subsidiary. If it can pay its own way, Disney will not intervene.
At worst, I expected #TheRiseOfSkywalker to be a well made movie that I didn't like or whose story choices I disagreed with. I was not expecting a genuinely bad movie with video game plotting, thin characters, weak action and endless exposition of no consequence. Heartbreaking...— Scott Mendelson (@ScottMendelson) December 17, 2019
Then let's hope it completely bombs at the box office because that's the only way where Disney will sack Kennedy.
If it makes even $1B due to insipid movie goers who'll see anything on the big screen, then Kathleen will be tenured at Lucasfilm.
Remember, it's a wholly owned subsidiary. If it can pay its own way, Disney will not intervene.
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Dholliday126
2019 Dec 17, 8:51pm
Dholliday126
2019 Dec 17, 8:51pm
I always thought star wars sucked, the new woke version is pure dog shit.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 17, 9:02pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 17, 9:02pm
NuttBoxer says
Ok take just one character from the movie and plot their arc during the movie. Example: Rey: She starts by begging Luke to be taught, but he’s an asshole who says the force should go away. So she somehow taps into Force on the island and discovers that she’s kind of dark, and she has a mind meld with Kylo. So she meets up for a date and he seems persuadable when he suddenly switches sides to join her to kill all the bad guys. But fake! Cuz then he switches back because we only wanted to confuse the audience not make a plot point! Then he blows up the Resistance, gets his ship blown up by a crazy cat lady, and then launches an assault on the rest of them. What’s his motivation? Who the fuck can understand it? Rey et all just wanna get away. They eventually do and exit stage left.
That’s it! What was learned? Don’t trust emo boys? The Force is stupid? Who the fuck knows.
The stuff with Luke, Rae, and Kylo Ren is where it's at in this movie.
Ok take just one character from the movie and plot their arc during the movie. Example: Rey: She starts by begging Luke to be taught, but he’s an asshole who says the force should go away. So she somehow taps into Force on the island and discovers that she’s kind of dark, and she has a mind meld with Kylo. So she meets up for a date and he seems persuadable when he suddenly switches sides to join her to kill all the bad guys. But fake! Cuz then he switches back because we only wanted to confuse the audience not make a plot point! Then he blows up the Resistance, gets his ship blown up by a crazy cat lady, and then launches an assault on the rest of them. What’s his motivation? Who the fuck can understand it? Rey et all just wanna get away. They eventually do and exit stage left.
That’s it! What was learned? Don’t trust emo boys? The Force is stupid? Who the fuck knows.
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Rin
2019 Dec 17, 9:21pm
Rin
2019 Dec 17, 9:21pm
Shaman says
Yes, it even makes David Lynch look like a coherent movie maker.
That’s it! What was learned? Don’t trust emo boys? The Force is stupid? Who the fuck knows.
Yes, it even makes David Lynch look like a coherent movie maker.
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RC2006
2019 Dec 18, 5:55am
RC2006
2019 Dec 18, 5:55am
CovfefeButDeadly says
I'd usually agree, not with this turd.
54% from the critics probably means its fantastic
I'd usually agree, not with this turd.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 7:47am
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 7:47am
TrumpingTits says
I don't know but isn't Pixar holding up pretty well? I mean if it were 'Toy Story' followed by a complete bust then yeah, Disney is a loser caretaker.
Otherwise, for the most part, they're acting just like any other holding company out there but in their case, for entertainment venues instead of let's say software like the loser Computer Associates which does nothing but butcher companies left and right.
If you want a major loser for a holding company, look no further than a GE. If it were GE in place of Disney, I'd say 'yes' Disney ruined X, Y, and Z because GE would send in their goons to destroy the goods.
In this case, Disney simply honored Lucas's wish for retaining Kathleen Kennedy. It was Lucas's fault for allowing this to unfold.
happened elsewhere in the Disney empire.
I don't know but isn't Pixar holding up pretty well? I mean if it were 'Toy Story' followed by a complete bust then yeah, Disney is a loser caretaker.
Otherwise, for the most part, they're acting just like any other holding company out there but in their case, for entertainment venues instead of let's say software like the loser Computer Associates which does nothing but butcher companies left and right.
If you want a major loser for a holding company, look no further than a GE. If it were GE in place of Disney, I'd say 'yes' Disney ruined X, Y, and Z because GE would send in their goons to destroy the goods.
In this case, Disney simply honored Lucas's wish for retaining Kathleen Kennedy. It was Lucas's fault for allowing this to unfold.
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socal2
2019 Dec 18, 8:39am
RC2006 says
Probably right. But alot of the critics who don't like the new movie raved about the Last Jedi.
CovfefeButDeadly says54% from the critics probably means its fantastic
I'd usually agree, not with this turd.
Probably right. But alot of the critics who don't like the new movie raved about the Last Jedi.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 18, 8:46am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 18, 8:46am
They keep raising the price of tickets to offset the lack of attendance.
That is how they keep breaking Box Office records.
That is how they keep breaking Box Office records.
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Goran_K
2019 Dec 18, 8:49am
Goran_K
2019 Dec 18, 8:49am
Forbes: "Rise of Skywalker is WORST Star Wars film ever"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/12/18/review-disney-and-lucasfilms-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-a-terrible-end-to-the-skywalker-saga/?utm_source=FACEBOOK&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Valerie%2F&fbclid=IwAR08v-_gqaLKdza7UAvkqfvSLSwK3cmCgLKZcZbRckkfeES70tvRmXjc6YQ#359492d7113c
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/12/18/review-disney-and-lucasfilms-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-a-terrible-end-to-the-skywalker-saga/?utm_source=FACEBOOK&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Valerie%2F&fbclid=IwAR08v-_gqaLKdza7UAvkqfvSLSwK3cmCgLKZcZbRckkfeES70tvRmXjc6YQ#359492d7113c
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socal2
2019 Dec 18, 8:56am
Goran_K says
Reading his review gives me hope it will be better.
The reviewer seems mostly pissed that Abrams had to fix alot of the bullshit plot points in the last 2 movies and tries to tie it back to the original trilogy.
Forbes: "Rise of Skywalker is WORST Star Wars film ever"
Reading his review gives me hope it will be better.
The reviewer seems mostly pissed that Abrams had to fix alot of the bullshit plot points in the last 2 movies and tries to tie it back to the original trilogy.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:03am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:03am
Rin says
They paid well over $4B for the Franchise. So, when you consider production costs, marketing, etc... Disney probably hasn't broken even years after the purchase. They were hoping I'm sure for a lot more. We do know the Merch sales have been seriously underwhelming, to the point they even braved SJW screeching by removing the Asian chick from new imprints.
They wanted to get rid of Kennedy a long time ago, but can't because she's literally considered the top female Hollywood Executive right now.
Force Awakens, $2B worldwide gross
Rogue One, $1B worldwide gross
Last Jedi, $1.3B worldwide gross
They paid well over $4B for the Franchise. So, when you consider production costs, marketing, etc... Disney probably hasn't broken even years after the purchase. They were hoping I'm sure for a lot more. We do know the Merch sales have been seriously underwhelming, to the point they even braved SJW screeching by removing the Asian chick from new imprints.
They wanted to get rid of Kennedy a long time ago, but can't because she's literally considered the top female Hollywood Executive right now.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 9:11am
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 9:11am
NoCoupForYou says
They made $4B in a four year span.
In other words, if the deal was floated with bonds (which most companies use for M&As or for build outs like Verizon's Fiber network), they have more than enough to pay the bondholders, since they don't have to pay off everything upfront, with a lot leftover for general business operations. And yes, if Kennedy churns up to a $1B per year, it's highly unlikely that she'll be asked to leave.
The way out is for each SW film to be Solo-redux, a $300M+ dud which will promptly put Kathleen in the "See ya, don't want to be ya" pile.
So let's pray for the 'Rise of Skywalker' to be the greatest failure of all time!
They paid well over $4B for the Franchise. So, they've barely broken even. They were hoping I'm sure for a lot more.
They made $4B in a four year span.
In other words, if the deal was floated with bonds (which most companies use for M&As or for build outs like Verizon's Fiber network), they have more than enough to pay the bondholders, since they don't have to pay off everything upfront, with a lot leftover for general business operations. And yes, if Kennedy churns up to a $1B per year, it's highly unlikely that she'll be asked to leave.
The way out is for each SW film to be Solo-redux, a $300M+ dud which will promptly put Kathleen in the "See ya, don't want to be ya" pile.
So let's pray for the 'Rise of Skywalker' to be the greatest failure of all time!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:13am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 9:13am
Rin says
Gross, not including various costs.
I'm sure Disney isn't going to go bankrupt over Star Wars, but they certainly didn't make a killing on it, in fact I suspect they're way off from the amount they hoped to make.
Rin says
Sure looks that way!
Interesting female mentality: The male hero becomes better through training, suffering, adversity; the female heroine is innately perfect and the world simply needs to recognize it.
They made $4B in a four year span.
Gross, not including various costs.
I'm sure Disney isn't going to go bankrupt over Star Wars, but they certainly didn't make a killing on it, in fact I suspect they're way off from the amount they hoped to make.
Rin says
So let's pray for the 'Rise of Skywalker' to be the greatest failure of all time!
Sure looks that way!
Interesting female mentality: The male hero becomes better through training, suffering, adversity; the female heroine is innately perfect and the world simply needs to recognize it.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 18, 10:03am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2019 Dec 18, 10:03am
Shaman says
You then spend the next paragraph talking about Kylo Ren. But you still feel qualified to judge..
Kylo Ren killing Snoke is nothing new. Happened with almost every Sith pair, though Vader killing Palpatine was different motivation. Remember the Rule of Two. Which means Rey would have gone to the darkside had she agreed. Kylo was originally trained as Jedi, and his internal conflict is clear throughout the series(just like with Vader).
Again, don't see what was so hard to follow.
Example: Rey:
You then spend the next paragraph talking about Kylo Ren. But you still feel qualified to judge..
Kylo Ren killing Snoke is nothing new. Happened with almost every Sith pair, though Vader killing Palpatine was different motivation. Remember the Rule of Two. Which means Rey would have gone to the darkside had she agreed. Kylo was originally trained as Jedi, and his internal conflict is clear throughout the series(just like with Vader).
Again, don't see what was so hard to follow.
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Ceffer
2019 Dec 18, 10:48am
Ceffer
2019 Dec 18, 10:48am
Merchandising campaign: lesbos with purple hair dilding each other with kiddies' plastic light sabers.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Dec 18, 11:03am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Dec 18, 11:03am
But who hired and approved everything she did?
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 11:15am
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 11:15am
FortWayneIndiana says
First of all, the parent company does not manage the wholly owned subsidiary. Realize, this is not GE, where its bozo C-suite muck with anything they buy.
In other words, Disney's execs don't have to approve of any of her day to day actions w/o some prior clearance from them.
In effect, the board hired her under Lucas's guidance during the whole deal where he wanted to 'preserve the Star Wars' universe in return for the sale of the franchise.
The person who betrayed Lucas was Kennedy, not Disney's bean counters.
NoCoupForYou says
I think for the most part, they're ok with years 1 to 4 because in effect, they've seen a blockbuster per year till the Solo debacle. I mean one can't always expect the Marvel series mega blockbusters to reproduce itself in Star Wars and in the same way with multiple movies serials.
So here's the thing, let 'Rise of Skywalker' fail and then, we'll see a change at Lucasfilm's helm. Until then, all bets are off.
But who hired and approved everything she did?
First of all, the parent company does not manage the wholly owned subsidiary. Realize, this is not GE, where its bozo C-suite muck with anything they buy.
In other words, Disney's execs don't have to approve of any of her day to day actions w/o some prior clearance from them.
In effect, the board hired her under Lucas's guidance during the whole deal where he wanted to 'preserve the Star Wars' universe in return for the sale of the franchise.
The person who betrayed Lucas was Kennedy, not Disney's bean counters.
NoCoupForYou says
in fact I suspect they're way off from the amount they hoped to make.
I think for the most part, they're ok with years 1 to 4 because in effect, they've seen a blockbuster per year till the Solo debacle. I mean one can't always expect the Marvel series mega blockbusters to reproduce itself in Star Wars and in the same way with multiple movies serials.
So here's the thing, let 'Rise of Skywalker' fail and then, we'll see a change at Lucasfilm's helm. Until then, all bets are off.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 2:00pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 2:00pm
NuttBoxer says
Look, most people are like you: wouldn’t know the good from the bad if it smacked them in the face with its lady penis.
I happen to be cursed with a more literary bent, which means I’m always ruining perfectly popular movies for people with my snobbish insistence on character arcs, story telling, and consistence in basic physics. NuttBoxer says
So you thought that part was cool? When they were flying through fucking SPACE (which has no gravity) but still had to get their space bombers literally OVER the dreadnaught to DROP bombs that look like WWII era bombs onto it using the gravity that doesn’t exist? Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!
Fuck!
But you still feel qualified to judge..
Look, most people are like you: wouldn’t know the good from the bad if it smacked them in the face with its lady penis.
I happen to be cursed with a more literary bent, which means I’m always ruining perfectly popular movies for people with my snobbish insistence on character arcs, story telling, and consistence in basic physics. NuttBoxer says
Resistance takes down Drednaught(pretty cool),
So you thought that part was cool? When they were flying through fucking SPACE (which has no gravity) but still had to get their space bombers literally OVER the dreadnaught to DROP bombs that look like WWII era bombs onto it using the gravity that doesn’t exist? Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!
Fuck!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 2:25pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 2:25pm
Shaman says
Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!the story was written by lib art major millennial SJWs.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
Shaman says
First of all, the name 'Dreadnought' is already reminiscent of the huge battleships between the UK and Germany during the WWI (and II) eras and thus, the entire setup was to replay that whole bombing away of a supersized vessel in the absence of any localized gravity.
Yes, it was an anachronistic attempt at showing Poe to be a loose cannon, sacrificing lives in return for one sunken supersized Bismarck vessel.
NuttBoxer saysResistance takes down Drednaught(pretty cool),
So you thought that part was cool? When they were flying through fucking SPACE (which has no gravity) but still had to get their space bombers literally OVER the dreadnaught to DROP bombs that look like WWII era bombs onto it using the gravity that doesn’t exist? Oh but an intersectional character sacrificed herself to do it so it works!
First of all, the name 'Dreadnought' is already reminiscent of the huge battleships between the UK and Germany during the WWI (and II) eras and thus, the entire setup was to replay that whole bombing away of a supersized vessel in the absence of any localized gravity.
Yes, it was an anachronistic attempt at showing Poe to be a loose cannon, sacrificing lives in return for one sunken supersized Bismarck vessel.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 2:40pm
I'm kind of with NuttB on this one. I think you guys are looking a bit too much into a movie. Enjoy it or don't. It's fiction. You can make up anything you want.
I get the SJW angle, but they're just trying to make a movie that will appeal to the largest audience. Men, even the one's bitching about the movie here, are already locked into Star Wars. You know you're going to watch this movie in some format and Disney will make money off it. If they can get women more interested in Star Wars, that's a shit load more money. Star Wars has never been about making GOOD movies if you're being objective. It's just business.
I get the SJW angle, but they're just trying to make a movie that will appeal to the largest audience. Men, even the one's bitching about the movie here, are already locked into Star Wars. You know you're going to watch this movie in some format and Disney will make money off it. If they can get women more interested in Star Wars, that's a shit load more money. Star Wars has never been about making GOOD movies if you're being objective. It's just business.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:42pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:42pm
WookieMan says
Nope, I can get the full summary from wikipedia and the highlights from someone making clips on the 'net, criticizing the segments. I will not watch this movie and thus, Disney Inc/Lucasfilm won't get a penny out of me.
You know you're going to watch this movie in some format
Nope, I can get the full summary from wikipedia and the highlights from someone making clips on the 'net, criticizing the segments. I will not watch this movie and thus, Disney Inc/Lucasfilm won't get a penny out of me.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:43pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 2:43pm
WookieMan says
That's why I want a Solo like failure to torpedo the Kathleen Kennedy Dreadnought.
It's just business.
That's why I want a Solo like failure to torpedo the Kathleen Kennedy Dreadnought.
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Rin
2019 Dec 18, 3:01pm
Rin
2019 Dec 18, 3:01pm
WookieMan says
One more time, there's not this 'they' in this fiasco.
It's a singular person with the name of Kathleen Kennedy. It's a 'she' and yes, 'she' thinks she can get more women interested in Star Wars by turning it into a Femi-Nazi/SJW propaganda piece than a Sci-Fi drama about plausibility and a hero's or heroine's journey.
If they
One more time, there's not this 'they' in this fiasco.
It's a singular person with the name of Kathleen Kennedy. It's a 'she' and yes, 'she' thinks she can get more women interested in Star Wars by turning it into a Femi-Nazi/SJW propaganda piece than a Sci-Fi drama about plausibility and a hero's or heroine's journey.
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Sorry, that's just not the case. This is not the C-suite vs humanity epic battle of wits. This is one nasty, men-hating bitch, Kathleen Kennedy and her cronies vs humanity.
What happened was that Lucas mistakenly took Kathleen to be a friend/ally .... however, instead, little did he know but his protege, who was with Lucasfilm since the time of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' and 'Return of the Jedi' was a snake in the grass, a Femi-Nazi Manchurian candidate of a Palpatine-like nature. Yes, Lucas handed the franchise over to her and Disney simply allowed Lucasfilm to run as a wholly owned subsidiary under Lucas's hand chosen successor.
As long as the franchise made money, Disney's executives gave carte blanche to Kathleen Kennedy.
So let's stop with the Disney bashing. For all intensive purposes, they did the right thing. Let Lucasfilm run itself and it can make money for the parent company w/o needing to micromanage the organization.