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108014   Bd6r   2020 Jan 28, 3:17pm  

If they hose Bernie, they will (a) lose election, and (b) splinter Democratic party. As a minimum, there will be a re-run of 1968 Chicago Democratic convention...
108015   Shaman   2020 Jan 28, 3:30pm  

I believe that the Democrat field is too split to come up with a nominee in the first round at the DNC. Nobody will have the majority of delegates, and so it will go to a brokered convention where the infamous SUPERDELEGATES will enter the fray! All the elite Democrat establishment will weigh in, and they will put their heavy fingers on the scale.
Think they’ll vote for Bernie?
Haha hahahaha! No way!
Biden is also problematic for many many reasons. So they’ll toss it to their buddy Bloomberg who has more money than most African nations, owns about 25% of the mass media, and holds the appropriate policy beliefs and won’t overturn the Apple cart. This will be a GIANT “Fuck You” to the progressive/populist wing of the party who will absolutely take offense. Bernie will bow out yet again with a handsome settlement from the “winner” and retire to spend his last years giving lectures on the wonders of Communism.

And the best part: a fuck ton of progressive Democrats will boycott the election!

It’ll be the largest landslide for any candidate/party in a hundred years.
108016   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Jan 28, 3:58pm  

Great... Trump can appoint some new ones!
108017   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 28, 4:13pm  

Hey Democrats. Sorry Trump fucked up your grand commie scheme to replace Americans with people who hate us.
You almost had it, you were this close!
108019   Chiromancer   2020 Jan 28, 4:54pm  

OccasionalCortex says
Former White House national security adviser John Bolton pocketed $115,000 from Ukrainian steel oligarch Viktor Pinchuk’s foundation


I always wondered why Trump hired Bolton. Apparently he liked the cut of his grifter jib. Trump only hires the very best people.
108020   Onvacation   2020 Jan 28, 5:52pm  

The Dems need a dark horse. Beyond the Bernie Boys, nobody's committing to a Democratic candidate. Many aren't committing to Trump either.

But who ya gonna vote for?
108021   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 28, 6:23pm  

There's going to be a brokered convention. I don't think none of them are going to get a plural majority.
I don't see how the DNC would certify a candidate that won the last primary with the rest of the field still in tow, and everyone getting 15% to 20% of the vote.
We'll know more after the straw poll, but I don't think none of them makes it to the general election as the Democrat candidate.
108022   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 28, 7:14pm  

Well what do we have here? This proves what I've been saying all along.

108023   CBOEtrader   2020 Jan 28, 7:14pm  

It's probably gonna happen. 4D chess on display :)
108024   Onvacation   2020 Jan 28, 7:38pm  

Not even worth popping corn until they interrogate Hillary about Ben ghazi.
108025   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jan 28, 8:18pm  

Excellent job President Trump!
108026   HeadSet   2020 Jan 29, 8:24am  

Ummmm...because it takes 2/3 vote in the Senate to remove him, that's why.

OK, I was thinking about the next step, the vote on witnesses. I wasn't thinking by "exonerate" HEYYOU meant the actual impeachment vote itself.
108027   HeadSet   2020 Jan 29, 8:26am  

Former White House national security adviser John Bolton pocketed $115,000 from Ukrainian steel oligarch Viktor Pinchuk’s foundation

Maybe Trump finding this out is why Bolton was let go. Did not vet him well enough.
108028   CBOEtrader   2020 Jan 29, 8:35am  

Cant wait to see CNN paint him as a great man, full of character and integrity.
108029   socal2   2020 Jan 29, 9:14am  

Tim Aurora says
While Bolton is a war monger, I find it hilarious and conservative blogs and conspiracy theorist are painting him as a pariah after his latest revelations.


We equally find it hilarious how Progs are elevating Bolton as their champion.

Bolton has been one of the Prog's most hated "neocon warmongers" of 20 years!

Lots of hypocrisy going around.

But nothing more hypocritical than watching the Democrats get all butch on confronting Russia when they have been week on Commies my entire life........including Obama and the Democrats refusing to provide Ukraine lethal aide when they needed it most.
108030   Ceffer   2020 Jan 29, 9:47am  

"What $115,000?" "Oh, THAT $115,000. Wasn't that a down payment for a chapter in the book deal?"
108031   Shaman   2020 Jan 29, 9:51am  

https://mobile.twitter.com/GKeile/status/1222548002008715264

John Bolton describing the phone call as warm and cordial. This August interview contradicts his stupid book.
108034   Chiromancer   2020 Jan 29, 10:26am  

HeadSet says
Did not vet him well enough.


Judging from the array of retards, grifters & thieves Trump has hired he has a very strange vetting process. Basically if you have only said nice things about him or at least nothing negative, you are hired. And yes, a campaign contribution greases the wheels.
108035   Ceffer   2020 Jan 29, 10:53am  

Are these judges all going back to their countries of origin?
108036   Hircus   2020 Jan 29, 10:59am  

OccasionalCortex says

They still are. POTUS after Trump will most likely be a globohomo fluffer just like all the presidents before Trump (both parties).


Ya, I expect they will say some junk like "It's time to reverse the raycist immigration system changes enacted by the previous administration, and move towards a system designed with diversity and inclusion!"
108037   Ceffer   2020 Jan 29, 11:02am  

They had to instruct these judges that they couldn't declare math lllegal.
108038   Bd6r   2020 Jan 29, 11:19am  

Ceffer says
They had to instruct these judges that they couldn't declare math lllegal.

No, but they can and will declare math to be RACIST!
108039   Bd6r   2020 Jan 29, 11:57am  

OccasionalCortex says
Viktor Pinchuk

My recollection is that Pinchuk is an equal opportunity purchaser of US politicians. A few yrs before Trump was elected, Pinchuk paid off some Trump-linked foundation for Trump to appear in some Pinchuk-advertising video in Ukraine.
108040   CBOEtrader   2020 Jan 29, 12:08pm  

Tim Aurora says
And how is calling Bolton to testify is hypocrisy.


It's not. Its merely irrelevant unless he knows something we dont already know. We will probably find out, as he will probably testify.
108041   Ceffer   2020 Jan 29, 12:09pm  

Bolton's credibility is already in the crapper because of this. Who is stupid enough to take a bribe for a piddling $115,000, when there are easy millions to pick up? What a Hershey Bar Whore.
108042   CBOEtrader   2020 Jan 29, 12:13pm  

Tim Aurora says
He is still a neocon warmonger.


Yes, and noone has been more consistent about this than Trump supporters.

I'm not sure how you'd expect Trump to personally vet every hire. It's not feasible.

At least half of all power players in washington are tainted, maybe more. Once Trump brings in these tainted people and sees they are part of the problem, he axes them. This is, like, what a good POTUS does. He should fire quickly and often, as has always been Trumps style.

Your critique of expected behavior sounds more like orange man bad than legit criticism.
108043   CBOEtrader   2020 Jan 29, 2:07pm  

Tim Aurora says
CBOEtrader says
At least half of all power players in washington are tainted, maybe more. Once Trump brings in these tainted people and sees they are part of the problem, he axes them. This is, like, what a good POTUS does. He should fire quickly and often, as has always been Trumps style.

Your critique of expected behavior sounds more like orange man bad than legit criticism.



Now you are a craftsman blaming your tools. . He has not been able to get along with outsiders such as Scaramucci, Tillerson etc. In fact if he cannot vet people correctly that many times, he does not deserve to be a leader. This administration has been a circus act with Trump dropping the balls and the Trumptards blaming the balls and not the handler.


The fact that you think you can make that determination through the willful misrepresentation of the fake news media shows lack of real world judgement.

Similarly, look at what has been thrown at Trump. The deep state manipulators are pulling every string possible. Slimeballs like Manafort represent the always available string to pull. Washington runs on blackmail, and the deep state has dirt on everyone. The resulting firings and turnover is to be expected.

Instead of allowing your perspective to be manipulated, look at empirical data. No new wars, old wars coming to an end, far better trade deals, fake news media system about to break, and a record booming economy. Trump is doing a fantastic job, best POTUS of my lifetime for sure
108044   socal2   2020 Jan 29, 2:13pm  

Tim Aurora says
He has not been able to get along with outsiders such as Scaramucci, Tillerson etc. In fact if he cannot vet people correctly that many times, he does not deserve to be a leader. This administration has been a circus act with Trump dropping the balls and the Trumptards blaming the balls and not the handler.


Trump hasn't spent his entire life in politics like everyone else. Of course he is going to have problem recruiting experienced folks to navigate the massive bureaucracy since he didn't have existing relationships sucking at the tit of DC government for decades.

Remember, very few people expected him to win in 2016 (including me - and probably Trump). So there were not alot of old hands willing to hitch their wagons to Trump's campaign to assist with the transition. I think Jeff Sessions was the only real Republican establishment guy teamed up with Trump during the campaign and first year in office.

Secondly, the Democrats (and some Republicans) put huge delays on Trump's appointments.

Even the hacks at Politifact have to call it "half true"
https://patrick.net/post/1329966/2020-01-28-john-bolton-took-six-figures-from-ukrainian-oligarch-clinton-foundation-donor#commentform
108045   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 29, 3:36pm  

And I find it hilarious how uninformed Democrats are.
They keep calling all of these deep state hacks Trump's people.
When Trump's list of people were all professional people in their fields. He wasn't bringing in any Washington inside people. Look how many NSA, CIA and DOJ staffers from Obama's and Bush's administration was to him to pick from. McMaster's brought in the Whistle Blower Cameria who had been working on setting up Trump since 2015 after Trump first announced his Presidential bid, and put Washington on Notice.
108046   RWSGFY   2020 Jan 29, 3:45pm  

Tim Aurora says
He was vilified as a War monger . That has nothing against his credibility.


Huh? By labeling someone a "warmonger" you basically imply that his assessment of the threat and the need of military action to mitigate it is not credible. Words have meanings.
108047   Booger   2020 Jan 29, 3:55pm  

108048   Ceffer   2020 Jan 29, 4:26pm  

When Trump fires your sorry ass, you become the darling of the captive LibbyFuck Industrial Publishing Complex, already familiar with dense bribery schemes.
108049   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 29, 6:11pm  

Bolton in 2010: I Would ‘Say Something I Knew Was False to Protect American National Security’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/29/bolton-in-2010-i-would-say-something-i-knew-was-false-to-protect-american-national-security/
108050   WookieMan   2020 Jan 29, 7:02pm  

Tim Aurora says
Faux news and corrupt right wing media has made right wingers more stupider then ever.

Well that wraps that up in a nice bundle.... lol.

What fight with Iran? Who is Iran fighting?
On a trajectory path, what new deficits can be absolutely attributed to Trump? (This is one area I feel he's lacking)
More people = more problems. That's the problem of POTUS? It's a quantity problem, not a per capita problem. Green/Environmentalist need to understand this.
Name me an honest politician? Just one.
The economy is always falling in someone's lap. What's your point?
Worst POTUS in 100 years? There's not anyone alive that can literally judge a POTUS from at most 80 years ago. More likely 60 years ago.

As usual, pretty sure I'm on ignore with Tim. So I don't expect an answer to any of this.
108051   CBOEtrader   2020 Jan 29, 7:45pm  

Tim Aurora says
Unnecessary fight with Iran


Maybe. Thus far Trump has done far more to bring peace than Obama and Bush Jr for sure. This is undeniable fact.

Tim Aurora says
ballooning deficits


Probably out of the control of any POTUS at this point, but at least you found a valid criticism. Wars started by Bush Jr and Obama, as well as ballooning medical spending from Obamacare are the top culprits.

Tim Aurora says
lax on environment, Russian ass kisser and the pathological liar.


...and now you've fallen completely into CNN propaganda land.

Tim Aurora says
The good economy fell in his lap. Worst president in the last 100 years for sure.


That's some serious orange man bad logic.
108052   Shaman   2020 Jan 29, 7:50pm  

I believe Tim must be employed by a Democrat organization. There’s no way anyone can be this obtuse unless they are being paid to be.
108053   Ceffer   2020 Jan 29, 11:53pm  

Are we sure that Barr wasn't just some janitor who wandered into to the Oval Office and convinced Trump he was qualified to be AG?

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