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marcus says

Kind of a stunning outcome, considering how most people on this forum want to sell it as purely partisan nonsense.

Turn about is fair play, is the way I saw it all play out. The impeachment was a joke from the start and dems should have had a much more solid case.

marcus says

sell it as purely partisan nonsense.

It is obviously purely partisan, w zero supportive evidence.

Gossip is not evidence.

Do you care that Ukraine is now investigating Biden's quid pro quo? Your propagandized mind cant comprehend that Trump was doing his job? Sad, but that's your problem.

Trump, fully exonerated and still your president until 2024.

RC2006 says

The impeachment

They're called show trials in Russia, even the people mounting them know they're false. It's also like playing a game of charades "...we were like children playing, when we played our charades"

marcus says

It's also the case that senators representing the majority of the population think he should have been removed from office

You may have baited me into a research project. I'm not convinced at all that 18 million more people voted for senators that wanted to convict. I think the population of the states that voted them in had 18 more million people TOTAL, not actual votes.

I know you know this, but Senators have 6 year terms. 1/3 of them were elected in 2014 and are up for reelection this year. 6 years removed from being elected doesn't mean the same people that voted that person in back then agree with the vote now (both ways).

I get the idea behind the meme, but it's disingenuous. There's really no disputing that. But if I have some time I might look up the popular vote for senators over the last 3 elections cycles to see if this 18M number is true. I seriously doubt it is.

marcus says

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TDS symptoms are showing again.

FortWayneIndiana says

marcus says

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TDS symptoms are showing again.

Let's keep it real.

marcus says

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A Fun Fact

Another fun fact: No they don’t, they are supposed to represent the states that they are senators of, not directly the people. Read the constitution some time and stop getting the HOR and Senate mixed up. Also, all that HOR was supposed to have to do with “impeachment” was the actual articles there of, or the allegations. They should have stopped all involvement once articles were submitted and allowed the Senate to perform all trial work beyond that.

ForcedTQ says

Another fun fact: No they don’t, they are supposed to represent the states that they are senators of, not directly the people.

I wanted to look into this tweet. There are too many caveats to this to make it true. So it's definitely a disingenuous meme/tweet if not an outright lie. When I read it, I interpreted it as popular vote each senator received versus their opponent. Not popular vote for POTUS.

The problem (as usual) is California. The opponents in 2018 and 2016 were both Democrats for the senate seats. So if you include the losers votes, it is easy to get to 18M more popular vote on a straight party line. I'm almost positive this is how this person came to this conclusion.

And no, I'm not saying the right doesn't lie in their memes. Generally speaking, when they do lie, it's for humors sake. Like Michelle Obama and her penis. No sane person will believe that. Whereas this meme/tweet about 18M more popular vote, is eaten up by the left as true even though it's provably false by just looking at the results from 2014, 2016 and 2018 Senate races. No one wants to take the time to back the claim up, so they believe it. Another reason the left sucks at memes. If you're going to lie at least make it funny and not truly misleading.

If you're going to lie at least make it funny and not truly misleading.

The point with the left's memes is not to be funny by satirizing or exaggerating existing facts, but to mislead entirely. That is all you can do when facts are not on your side.

CovfefeButDeadly says

Case in point of the right meme'ing better. Actually, it doesn't even matter your beliefs. There's not ONE person on the left that can disagree with this. Not one. They should all laugh at it because it's true. Good one CBD.

marcus says

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A Fun Fact

So I did the math. (Article 1)

Population of states where both senators voted guilty (19 states): 143,627,585

Population of states where both senators voted Not guilty (21 states):
128,240,933

[Difference of 15,386,652]

Population of states where vote was split (10 states):
55,665,265

For article 2 move Utah's 3,205,985 people from split to not guilty.

This is why we have a senate... so the states with larger populations dont overrun the smaller ones.