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Tim Aurora says

We did not have coup against Nixon or Clinton

Because it didn't start the moment they were elected as Trump's did.

Another stupid assertion.

Trump had publicly asked Russia to hack Hillary's computer. He had a history of doing stupid and shady unethical stuff. So if SOME people thought he was dangerous and unqualified to be President and started looking for legit reasons to impeach him, and if at the same time an investigation was also launched early, by others that truly believed there appeared to an unethical connection between Russias involvement, and the Trump campaign (you know - the stuff Roger Stone lied about), then that occurred back then becasue it was about the campaign .

Since the campaign obviously goes back to before Trump was President, your assertion also implies some pre 2017 certainty that Trump's campaign did not collaborate with Russians and or that the Mueller eventually report came up 100% empty handed on Trumps campaign shady dealings. That's simply not the case.

Legitimate investigations of Trumps actual wrongdoing, even if partly motivated by people who think they would even much rather have Mike Pence President than than Trump, are nothing, absolutely nothing like a "Coup."

The Russians are coming to steal our election AGAIN!

Patrick says

By all objective measures, like the economy and the lack of new wars

Everyone knows that how the economy is doing can greatly effect a Presidents chance for reelection. But everyone also knows that there is an extremely limited causal connection between how competant the President is and how the real time economy does.

Although I do give Trump partial credit for running MASSIVE deficits (good short term for the economy) in supposed growth times, when deficits should be dropping. I believe they would have been with Hillary. And we might have gotten a recession sooner with her. It's not clear that would have been bad in the long run.

Still your president!

No he can't there's nothing you feckless little fucking teet mouse can do about Trump but shut your fucking little commie mouths, and realize.
Commies live in America at America's tolerance for everyone. Take tolerance out of the equation, and Commies and Socialists in America are Fucked.

Americans will do some nasty shit to protect our Freedom and Democracy, unthinkable things you wouldn't want to tell your grandchildren.
But they did, told us when or if the times ever comes, what we will have to do. Raise your children right, and let them know about Commies and the Red threat.
Is the best thing we all can do to protect ourselves and this great nation from being infiltrated and hijacked to the point they remove our lawful President Elected by the American people.

....Fucking nasty unthinkable things. None of this pussy petty drive by shit, more like kick down doors and hand the lead man a pair of pliers will get them all.

Wait! What were we talking about again? Oh yeah four more Years mother fuckers!

2018 called. It wants its news back.
This is pathetic even for the utterly lame, incompetent, and possibly incontinent OP.

Trump had publicly asked Russia to hack Hillary's computer.

Not even close to factual, even if Trump was serious. And you know it was not serious, but you blow it up to be serious because that is all you have. Trump's joke was about finding missing emails that had long been deleted, not "hacking" a server. He further joked that the Press would be interested in those missing emails. This is almost as bad as getting a FISA Warrant to spy on a campaign based on a knowingly false Steele Dossier.

jazz_music says

https://www.attorneyio.com/trump-may-be-indicted/

yeah exposing Joe Bidens crime suddenly became an impeachable offense. Democratic elite is working overtime to cover up their crooked shit!

Still your president!

HeadSet says

but you blow it up to be serious because that is all you have.

It's not close to all I have, but I cite it because it's something that even you have to accept as fact. Yes, I really believe Trump to be so stupid as to impulsively in the moment he said it, want Russia to come up with those if they could.

Sure, by the time he thought about what he said, he would of course say he was joking, and because of how much of a pathological liar he is, he would believe that he was joking. Minute to minute the man believes whatever he wants to believe.

I'm certainly not saying that they should impeach him for saying that. I just give it as an example of how the man thinks and why it was justified to investigate his campaign.

No it’s not stupid, it’s a bribe.

Teacher ever heard of teapot dome scandal?

marcus says

Fortwaynemobile says

Biden’s son got paid lots of money. Money did exchange hands. That’s a fact. Clear case of bribery.

That's just stupid. According to your reasoning, half the large campaign contributions are bribery. Actually they are closer to bribery than Bidens sons job with Burisma.

If that energy company hired Biden's son in the hope of influencing US govt or in the hope of having access, that's not bribery.

But again, if there was something that was worth investigating there, there are ways to do it, other than holding up aid in exchange for an announcement. It should be initiated domestically (which supposedly is happening now).

marcus says

Tim Aurora says

Calling Impeachment a ‘Coup’ Hurts America - Learn your English

It's very in keeping with their modus operandi.

Don;t you see ? Trump isn't corrupt. It's just the media, and the FBI, and the CIA, and NSA, and basically all the Americans who can't think for themselves... They're all in on it. Making up reasons to oust the all time best President, because they just can't handle having him take apart their swamp.

Exactly right....Finally....whew.

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Only Fox news watching retards believe that.

"Darrr, I know it's true ! Sean Hannity said so !"

Flavius says

61.5% Of Coronavirus Patients With Severe Pneumonia Won't Survive

It's like around 89% for anyone with severe Pneumonia with any flu strain doesn't survive.

It's most deadly on those that are workaholics and get very little sleep. That's why when Doctors working these cases in a mass outbreak. If they get sick they die within days.
Well rested people that get plenty of sleep and have a healthy diet have a great defense against the flu to start with. They have less severe symptoms that someone who was out all night drinking the night before he woke up with the flu. I've seen a few people being interviewed that have the virus, say they don't have any symptoms and feel fine.

According to your reasoning, half the large campaign contributions are bribery.

No, ALL large campaign contributions are bribery.

Actually they are closer to bribery than Bidens sons job with Burisma.

Oh, give us a break. What Burisma did with Hunter Biden was bribery on retainer.

marcus says

That's just stupid.

Whatever you call stupid has to be wise beyond all belief. 100% wrong man. All the time. Ridiculously wrong worldview leads to ridiculously wrong assessment of people and situations.

marcus says

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Only Fox news watching retards believe that.

"Darrr, I know it's true ! Sean Hannity said so !"

Now do Tulsi, Bernie, and Trump - all of whom have been accused of the Press of being Putin-funded.

Anybody who believes that at this point, needs their head examined for acute gullibility.

HeadSet says

Oh, give us a break. What Burisma did with Hunter Biden was bribery on retainer.

Right. Becasue you and Fortwayne want it to be ?

A few years ago Biden was the lowest net worth guy in the senate. I guess suddenly something snapped and he turned corrupt ? In a really obvious way ?

marcus says

HeadSet says

Oh, give us a break. What Burisma did with Hunter Biden was bribery on retainer.

Right. Becasue you and Fortwayne want it to be ?

No, because Hunter was hired and paid $80k/mo when he had no qualifications whatsoever except being Joe Biden's son. Are you really that obtuse? Maybe you are not really serious here.

marcus says

A few years ago Biden was the lowest net worth guy in the senate. I guess suddenly something snapped and he turned corrupt ? In a really obvious way ?

A few years ago?? He's been out of the Senate for over a decade... What are you seriously trying to prove here? He was VP that allowed him more access to a ton of shit. Seriously?

Left tried so hard to lie and be manipulative. Real crooked pieces of shit.

marcus says

I really believe Trump to be so stupid

Amazing he graduated college much less beat the establishment to become the leader of the free world.

And he's your president for almost 5 more years if your guy mini Mike doesn't motivate the base and squelch that commie offering free stuff to everyone.

Have they came up with death rates by age yet?

Why would any employee that has skill ever want to be unionized is my question??? I know my skill and don't want the people with lesser skills dragging DOWN my pay or salary. That's what unions do whether you like it or not. Lower the best workers wages at the expense of the lazy. "Well, everyone is getting paid more!! VICTORY!"

WookieMan says

Why would any employee that has skill ever want to be unionized is my question??? I know my skill and don't want the people with lesser skills dragging DOWN my pay or salary. That's what unions do whether you like it or not. Lower the best workers wages at the expense of the lazy. "Well, everyone is getting paid more!! VICTORY!"

The good ones use the 'union job' to cover the benefits but then, make their money out of self-employment.

Rin says

The good ones use the 'union job' to cover the benefits but then, make their money out of self-employment.

I get that. My wife's cousin does that as a firefighter. He's praying right now for snow here in IL cause he can plow for one night and make a couple grand. What I would argue though is if he's the best firefighter, shouldn't he make more? Could that compensate for plowing on the side (lol)?

Union workers are mainly clock punchers. They don't care about the work even though I'll agree they're "probably" better trained. Within the union though, the best worker and the worst worker can make the same. That would fucking piss me off. I have no interest in working a side gig because the union dragged my wages down. For the shitty workers it brings their wages up. That's the point of it.

left isn't progressive, they are just manipulative leftist liars.

"I would legalize bestiality"

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"I believe that if I were the benevolent dictator of the world, I would legalize bestiality," he said in the video. Uyger clarified he would only permit the practice if "you are pleasuring the animal.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/cenk_uyger_bestiality_video

Yes, China is just the whipping boy.

All Chinas fault!!!!!

It's called a buying opportunity.

Lefts sacrament these days is gay shit and socialism.

Fortwaynemobile says

Lefts sacrament these days is gay shit and socialism.

And abortion.

Did I miss something? I thought Trump WAS the plague.

I have mentioned it to my friends for years, I have made a shitload of money in the last few years.

But, they are reluctant to actually pull the trigger and buy a mutual fund.

I mostly own mutual funds, but I bought a few stocks for fun recently.

I think Roku is cool, it’s like an OS installed on many new TVs; the analogy is Microsoft Windows installed on many personal computers.

The biased media makes a big deal over a 3.5% drop today after a 1.5% drop last week.

Big deal. 5% is not huge. I wish I had new cash to invest.

Buy.

clambo says

I have mentioned it to my friends for years, I have made a shitload of money in the last few years.

$2 million over here since November 2016. Sounds good to me!

WookieMan says

Rin says

The good ones use the 'union job' to cover the benefits but then, make their money out of self-employment.

I get that. My wife's cousin does that as a firefighter. He's praying right now for snow here in IL cause he can plow for one night and make a couple grand. What I would argue though is if he's the best firefighter, shouldn't he make more? Could that compensate for plowing on the side (lol)?

Union workers are mainly clock punchers. They don't care about the work even though I'll agree they're "probably" better trained. Within the union though, the best worker and the worst worker can make the same. That would fucking piss me off. I have no interest in working a side gig because the union dragged my wages down. For the shitty workers it brings their wages up. That's the point of it.

It really doesn’t work that way in the public sector. I can’t imagine not working with a union representing me. I’ve long gotten over the idea of someone who doesn’t perform as well as me making the same amount. The larger issue is nepotism and assorted issues related to appointed persons running departments.

In short, your assumption that the most productive individuals would be retained is incorrect. This isn’t private industry where a vp’s feet will be held to the fire and if you are the only one that can do your job you will be kept on and well paid. In government, There’s literal buffoons that get appointed as department general managers and nothing can save your job if there’s an asshole that doesn’t like you, unless you have a strong union representing you.

CovfefeButDeadly says

In government, There’s literal buffoons that get appointed as department general managers and nothing can save your job if there’s an asshole that doesn’t like you, unless you have a strong union representing you.

I get your sentiment, but then just move to another employer if you have a dumb ass as a manager. Union or not. It incentivizes you to hone your skills and be the best so you can tell that manager to fuck off and work elsewhere.

Whereas in a union, once you check a certain box you're locked in for the most part. Fine that manager can't fire you, but then are you just staying at a job with a shit manager that makes more than you just because you won't get fired? I personally don't think that scenario is any better. Sounds miserable.

Besides job protection, unions are of very low value to highly skilled workers. And job retention shouldn't be a concern if you're good at your job in the private sector. Get a new one or make sure your skills are in demand.

Let's put it this way. I'd rather negotiate my salary as a teacher or crane operator, make 40-50% more than the others and retire in 20 years instead of 30. You simply can't do that in a union. The guy that wants to retire at 45 is stuck for another 10 years because of other people. I don't know, that doesn't feel like freedom to me. Unions are very good at messaging and marketing, I just don't buy it.

Again not with government work. Switching entities messes with your benefits, retirement, and seniority.

I do get what your saying and as far as private industry goes I generally agree. But with the public sector you aren’t playing by the same rules and without union representation, you really aren’t plying by any rules at all(the politicians will circumvent and ignore any rules already in place).