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WookieMan says

You don't have to wonder about the exaggeration. That's 1,000% true. I don't like people dying, but it's old people and unhealthy people. The grim reaper was likely coming for them if the got the standard flu. Besides Chinese manufacturing fucking up supply chains to the states, the hype has been completely overblown.

Fact is the Chinese need to get back to normal just as much as we do. This is a bump in the road. It's insane if the media is going to try and peg a disease originating out of China on Trump. I didn't blame Obama for Ebola....

It’s true that the people who died had been the weak and old. The death rate on this COVID-19 (2%) is nothing compared to SARS (10%), MERS (34%) and Ebola (40%). However, this virus is very contagious. We need a vaccine to help put a stop to this.

In general, viruses don’t like the heat, but this virus has bucked the trend and got people sick in Singapore, Australia and a few other countries too.

We’re in somewhat uncharted territory with this virus. At the same time, the media needs the attention/rating so it’s their job to play it up.

Heraclitusstudent says

Viruses, climate and technology are all conspiracies of globalists to make Trump look bad.

I’ve asked this question regarding global warming to the “Climate Change” fanatics, but they all got offended and didn’t have the answer. Let’s see if you can help me out.

I know global warming is actually happening based on data. My question is “is it a naturally occuring event? If not, how much do we, human, contribute to the warming of the earth, or is the warming 100% contributed by us?

Without knowing the delta of us contributing to global warming, how do we know how much we have to do to off-set this delta? If we do too much to off-set the delta, then we’re fucking with Mother Nature just like like are contributing to it.

TIA!

Before Rush Limbaugh I called it.
Before Donald Trump I called it.
Any moron knows hyping the common cold is pure BS

The media will make this a disaster whether it is or not.

Anti-Trump bias will increase the bullshit.

Does anyone think that people around the world will stop consuming because some people are sick?

Maybe it didn’t originate in bats so now it’s the Chinese government’s fault.

Either way no bat soup for me.

I’m curious to see the mortality rate when this virus acts in other countries than China. As we all know, China is ASSHOE!

If one 77-year old Taiwanese Grandma (who came from Taipei at 60 and whose 40-year old children pretended she abandoned them so she could qualify for Soc Sec she never paid one penny into, while she practically lived in their tic tack shack) dies, all we will hear about is TRUMPS! CORONAVIRUS! KATRINA LIKE! DISASTER!

E-man says

I know global warming is actually happening based on data. My question is “is it a naturally occuring event? If not, how much do we, human, contribute to the warming of the earth, or is the warming 100% contributed by us?

Love it.

If settled science, all things being equal, how much CO2 PPM = X increase in Average Temp in Celsius?

"We don't know, but it's all settled according to an overwhelming consensus. Just look at all the predictions from 1985, 1995, 2005, 2015 and see how accurate they are just 10 years out! But don't look at the 1975 consensus!"

Patrick says

I do wonder whether the media is deliberately exaggerating the threat in a last ditch effort to harm the economy, and by extension, top harm Trump.

They absolutely do. No doubt about it. Shameful. In other news on MSNPC: "climate change is rayscyst". lol

E-man says

China created this bioweapon

How do you know that china created it? because the tv said so?...rachel maddow too and the view...anyone could have created it...including someone from the usa

Most likely it came from some animal, like pangolins.

Shaman says

I’m curious to see the mortality rate when this virus acts in other countries than China.

I've been thinking that the truly extreme levels of air pollution China may have been a major factor in its spread there.

Smokers are far more likely to get the flu. Living in Wuhan is probably like smoking 3 packs a day.

Schumer could not possibly be that obtuse. It is as if Schumer wants to bring in infected people. But then again, the Dems seem totally unconcerned about the effects of unfettered illegal immigration on the future of the country, just as long as they satisfy their donors now.

For hey you, since Trump was elected I have seen a big increase of my net worth.

Use the W5000 index and compare November 2016 with today.

I was annoyed to see it drop this week however, boo hoo.

I’ll get over it.

Patrick says

I've been thinking that the truly extreme levels of air pollution China may have been a major factor in its spread there.

Smokers are far more likely to get the flu. Living in Wuhan is probably like smoking 3 packs a day.

Surprise surprise, Wuhan does in fact have badly polluted air:

https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/in/Wuhan

clambo says

a facility in Boron, CA

Speaking of Boron, if you want to see something interesting, check out the borate mining operation on Google Earth some time. The waste dumps are enormous, and as you zoom in it becomes apparent that the spotted or mottled appearance is from individual dump truck loads. Then you realize it's from those giant mining dump trucks, and the scale of the whole thing is mind boggling. Use the history slider to see the time frames involved.

HeadSet says

Schumer could not possibly be that obtuse. It is as if Schumer wants to bring in infected people. But then again, the Dems seem totally unconcerned about the effects of unfettered illegal immigration on the future of the country, just as long as they satisfy their donors now.

Well, another Senator, Warren, wanted to take Wall Building and Border Enforcement for Medical Research instead.

The best data we have is from the Diamond princess. There were 3711 people on board. 705 of them got sick, this being in confined spaces with other sick people. So this is about 19% (on average about 8% of the people come down with the flu per year in the general population). 6 of those that got sick died (at least 3 of those were over 80; I was unable to find the ages of the other 3). I am willing to bet the other 3 were also elderly and/or had other health problems as cruise passengers tend towards a more elderly population.

So, for the most part its effects seem similar to just another strain of the flu, but yes the media will hype it for all it's worth. You gotta print about something.

Damn... It's in Mexico now. All hope is lost!

komputodo says

E-man says

China created this bioweapon

How do you know that china created it? because the tv said so?...rachel maddow too and the view...anyone could have created it...including someone from the usa

Which TV are you talking about? Did Rachel Maddow say it? If not, how did you come up with these?

Patrick says

I do wonder whether the media is deliberately exaggerating the threat in a last ditch effort to harm the economy, and by extension, top harm Trump.

My biz partner has a theory. He thinks China deliberately released the coronavirus to screw up the global economy, which in turn makes Trump lose the election. Trump has been screwing China with the trade war so this is not a bad way to get him out of the office. Not a bad theory.

E-man says

My biz partner has a theory. He thinks China deliberately released the coronavirus to screw up the global economy, which in turn makes Trump lose the election. Trump has been screwing China with the trade war so this is not a bad way to get him out of the office. Not a bad theory.

Interesting - I think the Chinese are very desperate to get rid of Trump, they made Reddit all but shut down the Donald by purging all the mods.

E-man says

My biz partner has a theory. He thinks China deliberately released the coronavirus to screw up the global economy, which in turn makes Trump lose the election. Trump has been screwing China with the trade war so this is not a bad way to get him out of the office. Not a bad theory.

Yes, this is possible.

There is a huge amount of money at stake. The Chinese are desperate to get rid of Trump so that he doesn't repatriate all those manufacturing jobs to the US.

And the Chinese have enthusiastic cooperation from corporate fuck weasels who were happily draining cash from America by producing in China and selling in the US.

And they both have fanatical cooperation from liberal pedophiles who have a vocabulary of exactly one word: "RACISM!" And it's the liberal pedophiles who run the media.

My prediction: cases in China decline from now on, cases in the rest of the world pop up, but it proves to be no more than a bad flu. The media will keep exaggerating the harm and blame Trump. Voters won't blame Trump, and he will win bigly in November. Stock market will reach new highs during Trump's second term.

How anyone has an investment loss since 2016 as the W5000 rose 33% is a mystery to me.

I was happier when I had a 50% increase previously of course.

I don’t have significant debt, and I won’t take money out of my investments unless I need it urgently.

NoCoupForYou says

E-man says

My biz partner has a theory. He thinks China deliberately released the coronavirus to screw up the global economy, which in turn makes Trump lose the election. Trump has been screwing China with the trade war so this is not a bad way to get him out of the office. Not a bad theory.

Interesting - I think the Chinese are very desperate to get rid of Trump, they made Reddit all but shut down the Donald by purging all the mods.

These theories are nonsense IMO. Occam's razor just doesn't support an operation of this magnitude. If it - while highly unlikely - originated from a lab, then it was either an accident or a 1 man crime. Keep in mind that if anybody even in the higher ranks or the military finds out about this that the Chinese don't fuck around. I'd expect an immediate overthrow if that theory had any merit followed by death by firing squad for many. Plus you know they eat everything. A contaminated animal is the by far most likely explanation.

I agree, Mell. Somebody was working in the lab, forgot to wash their hands, etc.

The idea that it was released deliberately in Wuhan makes no sense, they could have deliberately released it to the San Fran Bum Population to more effect.

But, I do think "Chinese Interference" in the Election (and generally) is a big thing.

NoCoupForYou says

I agree, Mell. Somebody was working in the lab, forgot to wash their hands, etc.

The idea that it was released deliberately in Wuhan makes no sense, they could have deliberately released it to the San Fran Bum Population to more effect.

But, I do think "Chinese Interference" in the Election (and generally) is a big thing.

Agreed but I'd wager incompetence anytime over ingenious conspiracy. Or a disgruntled worker who thought that would be a cool revenge. And if so he's long dead by firing squad by now ;)

HEYYOU says

Invest in coronavirus vaccine.

No money in that. Invest into HIV drugs, it’s a life supply for liberals since most of them live with HIV.

NoCoupForYou says

E-man says

My biz partner has a theory. He thinks China deliberately released the coronavirus to screw up the global economy, which in turn makes Trump lose the election. Trump has been screwing China with the trade war so this is not a bad way to get him out of the office. Not a bad theory.

Interesting - I think the Chinese are very desperate to get rid of Trump, they made Reddit all but shut down the Donald by purging all the mods.

If so, that could really backfire. With Chinese production cut back and thus shortages, it emphasizes how much the US need to keep manufacturing at home. ABC News even reported a shortage of medicines across the board because of disruptions in China. The may convince the public that pharma should be domestically produced.

HeadSet says

The may convince the public that pharma should be domestically produced.

It isn't the case that generics are cheaper than brand name when they started producing them in China so why the hell not.

Whenever something gets publicity legs like this 'pandemic', ulterior motives are key. Question is, what are they and why. The control element of the captive news medias are the sounding hounds.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1257901/pg1

I had a couple of flus a few years ago that could have killed me, not a peep of acknowledgment from medical sources, government, or ANYBODY that something was out there. People say the norovirus from few year ago was much worse than what they are reporting for Coronavirus.