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110716   AD   2020 May 4, 11:21pm  

I'd like to see charts for beef, chicken and pork production in pounds for the last few months to verify this.

The price of salmon, flounder and tuna fish will go up if there is a significant drop off in beef, chicken, and pork production.
110717   SunnyvaleCA   2020 May 5, 1:15am  

I don't know about opening up. We're supposed to cower in place through May here in Silicon Valley. In some ways, it's really quite nice. Less noise and pollution. Driving is a real pleasure. Lines at the supermarket are shorter. Last week, for the first time ever, I didn't have to wait to get gasoline at Costco of IndiaSunnyvale. It was amazing: 36 pumps are enough to satiate demand!
110718   Booger   2020 May 5, 3:43am  

SunnyvaleCA says
I don't know about opening up. We're supposed to cower in place through May here in Silicon Valley. In some ways, it's really quite nice. Less noise and pollution. Driving is a real pleasure. Lines at the supermarket are shorter. Last week, for the first time ever, I didn't have to wait to get gasoline at Costco of IndiaSunnyvale. It was amazing: 36 pumps are enough to satiate demand!


If you want to get gas at Costco and not wait in line, don't go when the store is open. Also Monday mornings tend to be bad.
110719   Tenpoundbass   2020 May 5, 5:52am  

So Marcus isn't panicking and upset they are opening up early after we all said it was dog and pony show hoax?
110720   theoakman   2020 May 5, 5:58am  

Yeah, I'm sure right wingers would probably rather be locked down and complaining than having freedom to go outside.
110722   Tenpoundbass   2020 May 5, 6:40am  

marcus says
Yeah, but what about Benghazi ? !!


Documents implicating Hillary and Obozo in Benghazi, at least has their fucking names on it!
110725   HeadSet   2020 May 5, 7:20am  

I read Hertz Rental Car is looking to file for bankruptcy also.

Both Hertz and Avis took a severe beating in their airport based business from Uber/Lyft long before CV-19 came out.
110726   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 May 5, 7:49am  

I’m glad they are reopening. Marcus you keep on inventing enemies for yourself, when most people just simply want to work and not bicker. Whatever floats your boat man.
110727   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 May 5, 8:11am  

exfatguy says
I'm currently renting (in CA) but plan to buy soon (hopefully). Anyway, I'm still working and my rent is still paid on time. Even if the government told me I didn't have to pay rent I still would. I don't live my life to fuck other people over.


You have to start looking now, be ready to jump in a deal if one comes up. Easier if you have cash, if you need a loan get preapproved so it makes it faster. There will be some temporary price drops while this covid shit makes people sell and move.

Better to buy a fixer if you have budget to renovate yourself, saves money.

Good luck.
110728   AD   2020 May 5, 8:28am  

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HeadSet says
Both Hertz and Avis took a severe beating in their airport based business from Uber/Lyft long before CV-19 came out.


Yep ---> https://qz.com/1253717/turo-is-doing-to-rental-car-companies-what-uber-did-to-taxis-and-theyre-scared/

However when I rented a car from a Budget, Avis, Hertz, etc. such as at San Fran Airport, it was for my freedom of travel. I was on business travel to Reno so I drove the car to Reno and then ventured out all over like Lake Tahoe during my free time.

But I don't see people renting cars in Florida for vacation if they are going to remain in the resort area. Such as they fly into Panama City Beach airport and then take a Uber ride or taxi ride to their hotel on the beach like Laketown Wharf. They can walk pretty much to everything they need as far as Walmart, the beach, attractions like Ripley's Believe it or Not.

I see a lot of people I know who use Uber or Lyft just for short vacation stays if they want to go from Laketown Wharf to St Andrews State Park or Gulf World Marine Park.

But a lot of tourists will rent a car and stay in Orlando and then venture out via rental car all over the state like go to St Augustine and then down to Miami Beach and then Key West.
110729   Dholliday126   2020 May 5, 8:29am  

Prediction: antithetical, but housing will go higher after this. 4 trillion will be inflationary, just like the bailouts of 2009.

Who are the only ones screwed since 2009? Savers that rent. I suspect it'll be the same after all this monopoly money makes it's way through the system.
110730   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 May 5, 8:35am  

I don’t see why this would be bad for right wingers.

Bad for hypochondriacs. Bad for people expecting a second federal govt check. Bad for those that wanted to stay at home for infinity.

Good for people that want to go back to work.
110731   NDrLoR   2020 May 5, 8:38am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Bad for
survivalists.
110732   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 May 5, 8:45am  

ad says

But a lot of tourists will rent a car


But there will be a lot fewer tourists in a Great Depression.

And... regarding the business travel, lot less of that in a Great Depression, also.

There's another thing about the business travel. I worked in a department of Road Warriors for several years, was even one of them myself. I suppose there are shallow and superficial types who enjoy being one of those, but I never met one yet. Businesses and their employees are becoming accustomed to video conferencing. So, even when the travel restrictions are lifted, there's going to be less business travel for meetings. I think, just like with the airlines, big car rental outfits made most of their money from business travelers, not leisure travelers.
110733   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 May 5, 9:06am  

Too late, comrade.


110734   AD   2020 May 5, 9:11am  

B.A.C.A.H. says
I think, just like with the airlines, big car rental outfits made most of their money from business travelers, not leisure travelers.


I think the peak for cruise ships was back in 2017. I don't think we'll see those levels for another 10 years. I bought Royal Caribbean when it was down about 80% and Carnival when down about 90% from all time high or peak.

I figure they'll bounce back some and engage in major streamlining and cost cutting in all industries like cruise ships, airlines, resorts, hotels, etc..

I bought the etf JETS when it was around $13.45. Its peak was around $35 in early 2018. I think for airlines the peak ridership and earnings was in 2019.

I don't think we'll see those airline passenger levels for at least another 5 years.
110735   Shaman   2020 May 5, 9:13am  

Wait... now the Democrats are worried about Russia simply giving Republicans “advise” about how to win? Man those Russians must be suuuuuuuper geniuses! How are they so fucking smart that simply giving a candidate ADVICE is enough to swing an election? I mean, candidates have all sorts of domestic advice coming in, but apparently Russian advisers are far and away the smartest fellers in the game! Who knew? And if it were true (no evidence presented for this contention in the article), what’s to stop politicians from hiring these clearly superior Russian advisors?

This is really pathetic.
Democrats and their captive media truly are sissy pantywaists.
110736   Shaman   2020 May 5, 9:18am  

Dholliday126 says
Prediction: antithetical, but housing will go higher after this. 4 trillion will be inflationary, just like the bailouts of 2009.

Who are the only ones screwed since 2009? Savers that rent. I suspect it'll be the same after all this monopoly money makes it's way through the system.


I’m hoping this is true. Inflation is a great deal for asset owners and debtors. Whenever you can see your investment value rise while your debt value falls, you’re winning.
110737   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 May 5, 9:19am  

And Biden has been co-opted.

110738   Shaman   2020 May 5, 9:24am  

Marcus fundamentally misunderstands conservatives. He thinks that if the Democrats stop oppressing us, we will be sad that we don’t have anything to gripe about. While that is true for Leftists, and they thrive on feeling oppressed, conservatives mostly just want to be left alone to live our lives in peace. Thanks for the free trial of totalitarianism, but we’d like to return the product and get our money back.
110739   Onvacation   2020 May 5, 9:31am  

Shaman says
we’d like to return the product and get our money back.


All sales are final! No Refunds!
110740   clambo   2020 May 5, 9:34am  

Fat slobs can cut back on meat consumption, eat tofu and embrace their feminine side.
110741   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 May 5, 9:38am  

Shaman says
Dholliday126 says
Prediction: antithetical, but housing will go higher after this. 4 trillion will be inflationary, just like the bailouts of 2009.

Who are the only ones screwed since 2009? Savers that rent. I suspect it'll be the same after all this monopoly money makes it's way through the system.


I’m hoping this is true. Inflation is a great deal for asset owners and debtors. Whenever you can see your investment value rise while your debt value falls, you’re winning.


Fixed price contracts really fuck people over though. Rents can’t be raised, government capped them. So people with rentals are gonna get fucked hard.

Government asks people to rent to deadbeats, limits rent increases on deadbeats, makes them not pay rent. Sooner or later CA will have nothing but hobo paradise here and all productive people will leave the state.
110742   AD   2020 May 5, 9:52am  

Shaman says
Prediction: antithetical, but housing will go higher after this. 4 trillion will be inflationary, just like the bailouts of 2009.

.

That is what I am hearing from a friend who represents the Mises Institute, a libertarian think tank.

He is saying that it will be asset price inflation AGAIN (ie.., housing, stocks, etc.), and we will not see significant inflation with gasoline, food, clothing, etc.

WSJ reports housing prices are going up :
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-home-prices-are-rising-during-the-pandemic-11588671002
110743   AD   2020 May 5, 9:55am  

.

Ultimately the true measure of inflation and quality of life is based largely on home price to household income ratio. I still was able to get a mortgage in summer 2016 with a home price that was 5 times my income because I had a 30 year mortgage fixed rate of 3% with no discount points.

https://www.longtermtrends.net/home-price-median-annual-income-ratio/
110744   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 May 5, 9:57am  

Shaman says
Marcus fundamentally misunderstands conservatives. He thinks that if the Democrats stop oppressing us, we will be sad that we don’t have anything to gripe about. While that is true for Leftists, and they thrive on feeling oppressed, conservatives mostly just want to be left alone to live our lives in peace. Thanks for the free trial of totalitarianism, but we’d like to return the product and get our money back.


Fact check: True

www.youtube.com/embed/4KnAzpi4avo
110745   Shaman   2020 May 5, 10:31am  

When I bought my house I had to finance what was about 3 times our annual income. Now thanks to raises and paying down some principle, it’s merely 2 times our income. The house is much more affordable now even though (thanks to tax increases due to rising property values) our payment has gone up about $75. I’m thinking seriously of refinancing shortly if I can drop my rate by a percentage point.
110746   RC2006   2020 May 5, 10:36am  

Shaman says
When I bought my house I had to finance what was about 3 times our annual income. Now thanks to raises and paying down some principle, it’s merely 2 times our income. The house is much more affordable now even though (thanks to tax increases due to rising property values) our payment has gone up about $75. I’m thinking seriously of refinancing shortly if I can drop my rate by a percentage point.


Same here I'm right at 3x and just refinance but shaved 3 years off instead of lowering payment. Good time to refi.
110747   AD   2020 May 5, 11:03am  

Shaman says
When I bought my house I had to finance what was about 3 times our annual income.


3x is very strict standard by the bank. Here in the Florida panhandle the banks are financing mortgages that are up to 5x household income.

Granted the homes are in the $180,000 to $300,000 price range.

BTW, I read that Wells Fargo has stopped taking HELOC applications.
110748   RWSGFY   2020 May 5, 1:18pm  

With his latest announcement Gavin Newsom has become the leader of the fake grassroots "reopen" movement.
110749   georgeliberte   2020 May 5, 4:12pm  

Gavin does not like the way the naught children are talking. WE will have the new normal that he decides. Of, course, Gavin has no idea what this thing called normal is about.
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Gavin-Newsom-California-reopening-retail-15248542.php
110750   clambo   2020 May 5, 5:31pm  

The money has disappeared from the stock market already.

Those who didn’t invest never had anything to complain about, taxes on my dividends and interest paid for their food stamps, earned income credit (free cash per kid), health care, etc.

I once started a business but I didn’t roll the dice with my entire net worth like an idiot.

Those who have not are dumber or had poorer judgement than most of the haves.
Some haves are lucky and inherited things, I know some of them.

But I know many more who just hate to save and invest money, it’s as if they were allergic to having money.

Tough shit for them.

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