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jazz_music says

Onvacation says

Where's the hockey stick?

IDK

Nobody does.

Most people quietly stop talking about it.

jazz_music says

socal2 says

We are merely applying

Too many of you claim to be speaking for a whole group of people.

This shows self knowledge of your weak position.

There is definitely a plurality of like thinking people who can see how wrong you are.

I drove out of state to get a haircut and now all the grandmas in my state are going to DIE.

Math just is and blacks kill each other and whites disproportionately. Don't argue with math, makes one look dumb. You can try and mitigate factors after the first step which is admitting there is a problem. If one keeps deluding themselves with TDS then this bad and sad fact will never change.

personal

Even 200,000 out of at least 330,000,000 isn't much. Not even enough to put a dent in traffic.

Obviously these people are all like butchers with blinders and their fingers on the scale. The bigger the numbers, the greater their power and potential remunerations, while ignoring the collateral damage of extreme policies. They aren't much better than soothsayers casting and reading chicken bones.

Re-title: over-estimated.

jazz_music says

continues to spread the divisive mentality of us-vs.-them

jazz_music says

His need to squash alternate information and his insistence of constant ego stroking are all characteristics of other famous leaders—cult leaders.

Those that are drinking the kool-aid can't begin to fathom how it all appears to those not in the cult. That is those outside the cult looking at the whole thing objectively. Including even many well known conservatives.

The cultists say, "oh that's my favorite part - the way it triggers the libs - the liberal tears," etc.

CLEARLY! the only space space is GUAM!

It sounds like a lot when pumped and porned in the lamestream news media but compared to how many old people die of something each year it's not even a blip on the radar. And the kicker is that usually nobody gives a shit when somebody they didn't know dies of something. But when it's Covid-19 virtue signaling goes through the roof and it's suddenly somehow orange! Man! Bad! 's fault. Everybody and their mother incl. Fauxci and the who got it wrong (or covered for the ccp) alright. Let's move on, do a good deed today for someone who matters to you and switch off the fear porn.

100,000 90,000 they can't even keep their inflated numbers right.

The Virus didn't kill many people.People that died that had it, which it turns out many of us had it, or have it, and never knew.
They get counted as a Covid death regardless how they died.

FACT CHECK: FALSE

When medical agencies are getting paid $30000 for classifying a death as COVID-19 caused, do you think there might be just a bit of over-reporting to get extra money?

I'm sure the biggest hospitals have administrators working extra hard to "reclassify" EVERY SINGLE DEATH as COVID-19 related. How could they justify not taking free money? Our shareholders DEMAND IT!

This is known as a "perverse incentive." A similar case occurred when the government began rating every airline for "on-time performance." The metric was based on "pushback" from the gate - not actual wheels-up time. To avoid bad numbers, what did every airline do? Padded all takeoffs by 30 minutes. Now, the airplane pushes back on time, every time. So EVERY consumer who flies has to waste their time (that was about 2 million people per day before COVID-19) for a perverse government metric.

Large number sound scary without proper context.

From CDC: Death rate is less than half of a percent, so more than 200 people have to be infected before one dies.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Deaths from flu in 2017 - 80,000
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

Deaths from Spanish Flu(last real pandemic) - 500,000
(same link ^^)

Deaths from Covid this year(not anything else, just covid), 76,000
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

NuttBoxer says

From CDC: Death rate is less than half of a percent, so more than 200 people have to be infected before one dies.

This is good to point out. It needs another layer though. The demographics all point to people that have lived a full life. I've said it before, I don't want anyone to die, but we have to look at the data and what's happening. This number is closer to 1 in 2,000 for people under the age of 60 (I'm making this up, but I'm probably being conservative). There's a way to protect these people. Not complicated.

We're shutting down people that are productive to save some old people that likely lived poorly and would have survived this if it wasn't for their own shit decisions. Or they're just fucking old. It makes no sense.

Face it. This won't end, much less make sense, until the election is over, and the Dems have stuffed the ballot boxes with mail in ballots.

You two are free to have your own threads. I won’t interfere.

"Time tells truths, that now will never know."
Windsurferman

jazz_music says

“Socialism needs to pull down wealth; liberalism seeks to raise up poverty. Socialism would destroy private interests, Liberalism would preserve [them] ... by reconciling them with public right. Socialism would kill enterprise; Liberalism would rescue enterprise from the trammels of privilege and preference. Socialism assails the preeminence of the individual; Liberalism seeks ... to build up a minimum standard for the mass. Socialism exalts the rule; Liberalism exalts the man. Socialism attacks capitalism; Liberalism attacks monopoly.” —Winston S. Churchill

"Liberalism" in Great Britten in the 1950s meant promoting "liberty" — pretty much what the Bill of Rights attempts to do. That is very far removed from what "liberalism" means in the USA today.

OccasionalCortex says

SunnyvaleCA says

"Liberalism" in Great Britten in the 1950s meant promoting "liberty" — pretty much what the Bill of Rights attempts to do. That is very far removed from what "liberalism" means in the USA today.

Can't expect Jazz to actually know about such facts, can we?

Or know the difference between "your" and "you're."

NoCoupForYou says

sky-god

Great etymology there.

The Indo-European sky god was known as "deus pater" in Latin, Jupiter and Zeus from the same origin.

marcus says

Those that are drinking the kool-aid can't begin to fathom how it all appears to those not in the cult. That is those outside the cult looking at the whole thing objectively. Including even many well known conservatives.

Sure, some people won't change their mind and challenge the wrong things Trump has done. He's said some stupid stuff no doubt and I hate this virus response. But there's clear and present evidence that there's more crazy on the left/Democrat side. The Presidential candidate for POTUS is Joe Biden. Trump can be an idiot, but Joe is fucking 1' away from being 6' under. His recent gaff is in the image OC posted above. How the fuck do you say that? And if you don't think the guy is pedo level creepy, than you're not paying attention.

If there's not a better alternative, I'm not sure how it can keep being labeled a cult here. You can claim that Joe Biden is better, but anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see he's completely lost it at this point. This is coming from someone that didn't vote for him (Trump) and I have bashed him on this very site. I will vote for him because Democrats failed and have been failing since the start of Obama's 2nd term. Is this not obvious to see for you guys? You're on the wrong side of history and you want to double down on it. We'd all probably get along if we met each other without knowing user names here, but can you not see the point of view I'm talking about here? You're blinded by the hate for a brash New Yorker.

jazz_music says

conspiracy to gain power by any means.

Like Blasey-Fording a SCOTUS candidate?

Or fake russian conspiracy investigations?

Or fake Ukraine impeachments?

Or fake HCQ outrage?

I could go on...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8358109/Swiss-brothels-draw-list-coronavirus-safe-sex-positions.html

Sex workers offer to limit customers to two positions which 'minimise the risk of transmitting coronavirus' to enable brothels to end lockdown in Switzerland

That affidavit makes it clear that voters’ requests for ballots were alleged to have been illegally altered; the alterations did not occur on ballots themselves.

So a total of 5 people got sent Republican ballots instead of Democrat ballots for a primary. That sure makes up for boxes of ballots found in car trunks and ballot harvesting. Even so, it shows we more security with our elections, in part by using mail in ballots only when really necessary, plus voter ID.

More reasons to not allow mail fraud voting, Trump is right.

Our elections are a joke considering every single person can rig it if they are willing to lift their finger.

Looks like the left is back to its old standby --- calling everyone racist

With Covid-19 getting all the press recently, there just weren't any stories about Trump/racist

Had to use a story from back in December 2015. He hadn't even run for president, yet.

Funny running a headline from 2015. I guess in the left's opinion everything he's done since then must be ok, since his "Most vicious lie" was back in 2015.

jazz_music says

"Whites Killed By Blacks: 81%."

So this ^ is the biggest baddest lie that you can find Trump making?

Onvacation says

jazz_music says

"Whites Killed By Blacks: 81%."

So this ^ is the biggest baddest lie that you can find Trump making?

Well it isn’t a lie and it is from five years ago. I guess he’s been fairly “truthful” since then according to mR. panther.

zzyzzx says

I drove out of state to get a haircut and now all the grandmas in my state are going to DIE.

DIE GRANDFUCKS!! DIE!!!

That's it. I'm buying Pine-Sol futures!