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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC

""It's vital that Governors maintain restrictions on businesses until after the November Elections because economy recovery will help Trump be re-elected. A few business closures or job losses is a small price to pay to be free from his presidency. #KeepUsClosed 1:09PM - 20 May 2020"

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC

""It's vital that Governors maintain restrictions on businesses until after the November Elections because economy recovery will help Trump be re-elected. A few business closures or job losses is a small price to pay to be free from his presidency. #KeepUsClosed 1:09PM - 20 May 2020"

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HOW SIMILAR ARE THE FAR-LEFT AND THE FAR-RIGHT ?

Oh, be real. The ultimate "far right" is an anarchist, who wants no government at all, while the "far left" wants total government control and ownership of everything. Don't even tell the far right anarchist what side of the street to drive on, while the far left would allow the government to assign him a wife.

HeadSet says

Oh, be real. The ultimate "far right" is an anarchist,

Liberals own Anarchy. I don't know one single Right conservative person that wants anarchy. Not one!

Just because someone doesn't like the Left's leadership, does not automatically make them a conservative rightwinger.

Far Right, simply means the crazier Liberals and the Left gets, the more they Object.

Tenpoundbass says

I don't know one single Right conservative person that wants anarchy. Not one!

Anarchy as in no government, not the hooliganism going on in the streets.

So if far left means total government control perhaps the far right means total personal responsibility?

We give power to government to protect us and our rights.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Who cares? 2nd wave is coming and you already know it. I know you're gearing up for it.

Also, my SIL lives in Austria. They're not doing anything different than what's going on here in IL. Like zero. Our entire mortality rate is due to the fucking Cuomo retard that should likely be in jail for his dip shit moves.

Take out the Northeast and we're doing slightly better than the EU probably. You have New York ass holes that just killed a bunch of people for fun it appears. You also have countries counting deaths correctly in the EU, like Germany. Dying OF Covid versus dying WITH Covid. There's a neat little distinction there. We're mostly not doing that in the US. Colorado at least revised some numbers. We know high death count states won't though. There's a reason.

This depends on comorbidities, on average Americans are fat and unhealthy, and/or trans/lgbtqxyz+_---- which also comes with lower life expectancy. We're literally killing! grampas! and! homos!, but there's nothing to be done about it. Also as Wookie already observed and which I can corroborate, often old males are the ones not wearing masks and mingling happily and extensibly - good on them, there is more to life than hovering at home and being afraid! The curves look pretty much the same once you correct for the slightly but measurably unhealthier average American and the difference in counting (the EU does not count everything as a Covid-19 death just because the patient tested positive or was presumed positive).

Here's what I learned about New Jersey. Not only did we send all the Wuhan Virus patients into nursing homes, but we diverted all the PPE from nursing homes to hospitals in March and April. The nursing homes, as a result, were set up to inflict mass amounts of death through no fault of their own.

theoakman says

The nursing homes, as a result, were set up to inflict mass amounts of death

Social Security will have huge $$$avings! Win-Win!

U sure 'bout that?

So if far left means total government control perhaps the far right means total personal responsibility?

Well put.

The best part of that entire analysis was the reference to this “horseshoe theory” where the left and right wings bend around towards each other.

This is ALMOST true. The truth is that the political spectrum is a circle, and the left and right wing extremists meet at the intersection of totalitarianism. Bookended on the left with Communism and on the right with Fascism, nevertheless each side slips with undeniable gravity to Totalitarianism. Communism and Fascism are transitory states, full of ideals which are wholly unworkable in practice. Those in charge will try to make them work, but to do so they have to resort to Totalitarian control of ever more harsh constraint.

On the other end of the circle ⭕️ is Anarchy. It’s bookended by Libertarianism on the right and Democracy on the left. Once again, both states are transitory, but the slippage tends to be AWAY from Anarchy instead of towards it. Indeed if anarchy becomes the political state, society recoils from it immediately in horror, willing to accept any other system of government.
This is why totalitarian governments are so frequently established after a period of anarchy.

Deaths are all that matter.



F'CCP - You got a link to those graphs? I'm interested in what the data is and does it account for aging population? As boomers age, more people are going to die annually than the previous year. Basically, is this what naturally would have happened? The graphs look like gross deaths and not an average. Basically we could see another peak every year for the next 20 years that coincides with flu season as boomers pass and even older people pass.

WookieMan says

F'CCP - You got a link to those graphs?

It's from FT: https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441

I still think "attributed deaths" is garbage and the only meaningful number is excess deaths.

Maybe this explains the difference...

The US obesity rate is 36.2%.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/29-most-obese-countries-in-the-world.html

Obesity rate in Europe, by country (top 15 shown):

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-fattest-countries-in-europe.html

It's mostly woo with a shit track record of predictions.

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1990s the economy was on a roar just given by the velocity of money.

But notice it has steadily decreased since then despite major market upticks like 2003 to 2007, and 2010 to 2020.

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NoCoupForYou says

It's mostly woo with a shit track record of predictions.

Indeed. The markets are best understood as a graph of rich people’s feelings. Dog their heels or (if you can) stay one step ahead of them. They determine the market, not economic forces or whatever. It’s all about the rich people and how their feelz are doing.

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There is less risk of inflation with a drop in velocity of money.

Notice despite all the Federal Reserve quantitative easing and zirp (zero interest rate policy) that the velocity of money has not recovered to the 1990s level.

That is one reason why I never thought the Fed policies would lead to major inflation. The money never trickled down and never was like sending out stimulus checks or other government checks.

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NoCoupForYou says

Glad to see non-Whites are so mentally healthy. Probably because the therapist doesn't want to get a beatdown for telling them they have a mental condition, and they wouldn't collect the hourlies, anyway, like with neurotic whites.

DILLIGAF says

Psychopathy is typically diagnosed using a 20-item checklist called the Hare Psychopathy Checklist. This list features questions that gauge common traits such as a lack of empathy, pathological lying, and impulsivity (among many others).

That explains black thugs.

jazz_music says

Yeah, so is every other country in the world handling COVID better than the United States.

Did you not look at comment #5?? Maybe you have him on ignore I suppose, so graph quoted below. The graphs in the image show 9 out of 20 (excluding the US) countries doing worse, with another 3 basically similar if you factor data error of 2%. So we're in the middle with our handling of it at worst. Take out the Northeast (NY, NJ, MA, etc.) and the rest of the country is handling this extremely well.

We're not the best, but the claim is Europe and now you with every other country handling it better. It's literally right there for you from FuckCCP's comment. Our country is also one of the few that's mostly counting deaths with COVID as COVID deaths. Versus say German counting deaths caused by COVID. So a person maybe had cancer or some other ailment that was close to killing them anyway. We count that as a COVID death in most states, whereas other countries don't. This is why FuckCCP posted the graph, because actual COVID death counts are not the same everywhere. And China lies. Easy to hide 1M deaths with 1.4B people.

FuckCCP89 says

We're not the worst versus Europe or all the other countries per your claim. There are more overall deaths. There is a pandemic. But it's not as big and scary as it's being made out to be and we aren't remotely the worst country dealing with it.

I’ve seen hard drug addiction turn people into psychopaths. When they’re jonesing for that hit, they’re capable of damn near anything.

Otherwise psychopaths are out there and I’ve run into them more than a few times. I had a boss who would have tested high on that scale, and he almost made me quit before I decided to fight back and got him demoted. Once he no longer had any power he was neutered and mostly kept to himself until he retired. Good enough for me.

Shaman says

I’ve seen hard drug addiction turn people into psychopaths

Or it could be that the psychopathy is what turned them to drug addiction in the first place.

NDrLoR says

Shaman says

I’ve seen hard drug addiction turn people into psychopaths

Or it could be that the psychopathy is what turned them to drug addiction in the first place.

Nope. It’s usually childhood trauma that sends people into addiction behaviors. Although enough trauma as an adult will help that along as well.

Addiction has a strong genetic link, but it is diffuse. You can't diagnose underlying psychosis or personality conditions until the person is clean and sober for at least 6 months to a year. Sometimes they clear up partially, sometimes completely, and sometimes there always was an underlying personality disorder.

Probably best just to treat them as if they have the personality disorder/psychosis because most don't sober up, anyway, if they are true addicts. Addiction is mostly irreversible and eventually fatal. Sporadic sobriety tends to be the trend, with 96 to 98 percent dying addicted. It is a terminal illness.

Recovery 'experts' like to hold out hope greater than that, but then, there are huge resources in the recovery industry that cause diagnosis tainted by secondary gain. The handful that do recover have to really want it, and have to be highlly motivated, which does not describe the vast group of committed addicts.

There is usually a spectrum between users, who can be occasional chippers all the way to the physically and emotionally dependent, and true addicts.

That TV Dr. Drew who likes to be the smug guru type had the show 'Celebrity Rehab', and when it was clear his 'celebrities' were dying relentlessly, and you saw what sociopathy they were engaged in around their drug use, he had to cancel the show. For some reason, they just weren't listening to all of his TV wit and wisdom

TrumpingTits says

Now it is ppl 29 and under. The idiot protesters, looters, rioters and spring breakers.

And they'll live. We've clearly started figuring out who it kills and how to protect them. So cases are going to skyrocket as we open up. Deaths I think will start trending sideways and hospitalizations slightly up, but I don't think it gets worse than the original peak.

Which means we shouldn't have to shut down again in my opinion because nothing was ever overwhelmed. And assuming antibody resistance, cases at some point will plummet with a small bump in the fall/winter with people aging into death in 80% of the cases anyway. With no vaccine it's twice as deadly as multiple strains that have vaccines for flu. It sucks, but the over reaction is staggeringly stupid.

DILLIGAF says

followed by a ‘Nike swoosh’ recovery that won’t return the level of output to the prior fourth quarter of 2019 peak until early 2023,” writes UCLA Anderson Forecast senior economist David Shulman

Wow...he can see into the future...He even made graphs.

Shit, graphs and numbers. Here, have some others:



V Shaped Recession.

Tim Aurora says

The US, by contrast, began opening up within three weeks after its peak, and our decline has been much less rapid.

Its called flattening the curve, or do you not remember april?

Sadly, the data given in this post appears to support my own conclusion from a week ago.

https://patrick.net/post/1333113/2020-06-18-stocks-i-m-out

"Water powerty crisis"? Who the fuck comes up with this shit?

Charles Hugh Smith? Seriously?

Is this poster just al alt account of HEYYOU?

DILLIGAF says

Attack the OP author and OP poster - ignore reality, try and distract from the contents of the OP

CHS is a known entity: he's never been right about anything. If you are just discovering his "wisdom" - have fun. Just not put your money where his mouth is.

In Tucson, Arizona, another drought affected city, the number of low income residents facing unaffordable bills doubled to 46% between 2010 and 2018 – as the average bill increased by 119% to $869.

$75/mo is not "unaffordable." And that $75/mo is the "average" for all users, not just the poor. The poor would have significantly lower bills than the more affluent who water the lawn.

PeopleUnited says

Is this poster just al alt account of HEYYOU?

Could be.

DILLIGAF says

Sums up the reality of TDS sufferers.