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marcus says

richwicks says

brought back slavery to Libya and voted for the Iraq War over non existent weapons of mass destruction.

You forgot about her having the audacity to want to work on healthcare policy proposals when her husband was President.

You mean the thing she worked on with Richard Nixon?

I really don't care what she FAILED to do.

marcus says

All the republicans in congress voted for the Iraq war too. It probably means she bought the weapons of mass destruction talk.

Nearly all. They ought to be fired. Anybody that voted for the Iraq War is either grossly incompetent, or deeply immoral.

marcus says

richwicks says

that alone will cause bigoted people to vote for Joe Biden.

It is political yes. Although if it help bring out the vote from people that like seeing a woman on the ticket, or a black woman that's a far stretch from bigotry.

Yeah, they are appealing to bigots.

marcus says

But since you brought it up. In my opinion, with out race hatred among many on the right, Trump couldn't possibly have been elected.

Trump wsa elected because there isn't a penny's worth of difference between Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, John Kerry, Al Gore, William Clinton, Bob Dole, or George H. Bush.

And people are fucking fed up with the goddamned establishment which has done nothing but destroy this nation for 30 years. Kept us in war for 30 years. Sold the blue collar working class out to the Chinese for 30 years. Our establishment is utter garbage.

mostly reader says

Marcus. Every single white male, regardless of qualifications, was excluded from consideration for VP position exclusively because of his race/gender. I don't know how someone can think that this is not bigotry.

Marcus can't either - that won't prevent him from continuing to lie about it. Marcus is a fundamentally dishonest person.

marcus says

So all the years and decades that women were excluded from consideration, was that bigotry ?

YES.

It was.

Obviously.

marcus says

So all the years and decades that women were excluded from consideration, was that bigotry ? Or was it just trying to give the voters what they thought would be a winning candidate.

Shifting the blame from politicians to voters doesn't help your case. You are essentially calling current Dem voters bigots.

With which we may agree. Women may have been excluded in the past, but not quite in these clear terms. In the past (few decades), no major party candidate would get away with this. Bigotry was there, but it was never so strong as to allow a candidate say publicly and openly that he's picking a male candidate because of his gender. ANY major party would've been SLAUGHTERER right there one the spot, and likely by their own voters. You'd probably have to go back more than 50 years to find something remotely close to that.

Scroll forward to today. It IS happening, and voters CHEER. Bigotry is making a comeback.

richwicks says

spent 3 years trying to impeach a man they didn't like merely because he wasn't an establishment whore. The intelligence agencies, department of justice, and democratic establishment fabricated evidence, repeatedly lied to the FISA courts, lied to the news media for 3 fucking years, and when that didn't work, started rioting and looting across several cities, are calling for the abolition of the police and are destroying historical monuments.

After the attempted coup but before the looting and monument destroying, you left out a few things. Let me try:
After the coup didn't work, they tried impeachment based on no evidence crimes. When impeachment didn't work, it was management of COVID-19 for maximum economic fail (sick old folks must be returned to nursing homes to infect others). Now, it seems, we'll have looting, rioting, and desecration/destruction of historical monuments.

And now, they are trying to resurrect the "Russia" nonsense with the "bounties on soldiers."

marcus says

mostly reader says

Bigotry is making a comeback.

RIght. "And all lives matter," amiright ?

LOL. "Not all lives matter", amiright?

Only non-majority lives matter. Whiteness infects the system to the core and only by admitting White Privilege and the fundamental Racism of the USA, and redistributing the wealth of White Non-Allies, can we move forward to the End of History with a Socially Just State.

marcus says

richwicks says

marcus says

So all the years and decades that women were excluded from consideration, was that bigotry ?

YES.

So if in 1962 a candidate selects a male (or limits his selection to men) as a running mate, because he believes that if he chooses a woman, he won't win, it's bigotry. Fine, I'm done with this stupid conversation.

The irony here is you don't understand you're a bigot. Was the country bigoted in 1962? The civil rights act was passed in 1964. Of course there were limited opportunities for women and non white men in 1962. When Kennedy was elected 1/2 the country was in a tizzy because he was, gasp - Catholic.

In 1962, marcus says

But I will say again, that it doesn't compare to the evil cynicism involved in using racist dog whistles to appeal to the deplorables of the country.

They are called dog whistles because only you are able to hear them. You're the bigot.

I have pointed out, repeatedly, that I think exactly the same of Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, John Kerry, William Clinton, Bob Dole, and George H. Bush. Doesn't matter they were black, female, or white. They were terrible, awful, evil, warmongering, scum that have been betraying this nation for 30 years and don't think 1/2 the country isn't FULLY aware of this as well.

Now at worst, Trump is no different. That's the worst thing that could happen by electing him in 2016. The worst thing that could have happened, is we'd end up with the same goddamn fucking type of asshole that the nation has had to deal with for the past 28 years.

It was scum versus unknown - before that it was scum versus scum dating back to 1994, maybe 1988 although I don't remember Dukakis well. Known warmongering scumbag versus unknown was the 2016 election, and it's the 2020 election. Joe Biden, fanatical supporter of the Iraq War, VP as the US started wars in Syria and Libya versus man that tried to shut down the Syrian war (and largely has), and hasn't begun a new war. You're the fuck that wants to elect a senile fuck who is just another establishment puppet. You get that dickhead elected, we'll be back in Syria, and maybe even Iran and that wonderful Cold War 2.0 will be on. Who doesn't want to be mortal enemies with a nuclear super power like Russia? Wasn't the first fucking cold war so much goddamned fun? Who doesn't love spending fully 1/3rd of all tax revenue on the military for wars that serve no national purpose?

But here's the trick of it all, the US is run by nutcases now. Not Russia and they were run by nutcases in the 1980s. The US is all over the world blowing shit up, not Russia. The United States has been an out of control, rogue nation since the early 1990's and I'm fucking sick of it. You want to go back to that.

This is it. This is the reason for the Covid-19 overreaction.
marcus says

This tweet was aged to perfection:

marcus says

richwicks says

They are called dog whistles because only you are able to hear them. You're the bigot.

Yeah, well I'm honest and can see both side on all of this stuff, unlike most people around here, that choose to lie their asses off.

Maybe you can explain why David Duke and the KKK supported Trump, or why Trump was so torn about whether to disavow that support in this awkward interview.

The KKK is mostly FBI plants and a few useful idiots that don't know.

Why would the KKK, if they wanted to help Trump win, endorse him?

They've been doing this for decades. They did it to Pat Buchanan, they did it to Ron Paul fuck they did it to Ross Perot. How can you continue to fall for the same trick? Here, try to find a KKK member, anywhere. They are a defunct organization and have been since the 1970s.

The KKK were white anglo-saxon protestants. Why are they endorsing a man that has a son in law, who is Jewish, whose daughter converted to Judaism, and whose been friends with Netanyahu since before he even entered politics? If they are really racist bigots, why would they endorse Trump? How many KKK members have you met in your life? Point me to the a chapter of the KKK anywhere in the United States. Name a KKK function that happens anywhere. Why do you believe there are any significant number of KKK members?

I'm always amazed at how easy it is to trick people.

richwicks says

How many KKK members have you met in your life?

None. Though I bet david duke, Richard Sherman, and the other deep state shills will be invited on CNN to tell their audience how they supp Trump again in 2020.

Amazing how leftist media makes them famous every 4 years

richwicks says

The KKK were white anglo-saxon protestant

democrats.

jazz_music says

They are, shhh don’t tell nobody, it’s Trump’s big-ass secret very fine people

C'mon jazz_music the truth is becoming so painfully obvious.

Drop the hateful losers and join the side of truth. You're not a bad guy. We'd be happy to have you.

jazz_music says

Onvacation says

They are, shhh don’t tell nobody, it’s Trump’s big-ass secret very fine people

It's not about rights, or oppression, or injustice.

It's about dominance. Minorities dominating the Majority, aka Oligarchy. Except, most historical Oligarchies have to pander at least a little bit to the majority to stay in power.

This one uses psychological guilt warfare to stay in power, and insures this guilt only ends up with True Believers in positions of power, either minorities or their guilty White allies, to perpetuate their power base.

That explains why nobody is interested in Black Crimes, Single Mothers, and Anti-White Quotas.

NoCoupForYou says

It's about dominance. Minorities dominating the Majority, aka Oligarchy. Except, most historical Oligarchies have to pander at least a little bit to the majority to stay in power.

This one uses psychological guilt warfare to stay in power, and insures this guilt only ends up with True Believers in positions of power, either minorities or their guilty White allies, to perpetuate their power base.

That explains why nobody is interested in Black Crimes, Single Mothers, and Anti-White Quotas.

Great insight. It really is psychological guilt warfare.

Racists be racist.

Not really political, but I don’t see much of any Gen Xers or Boomer out whin...er...protesting

jazz_music says

Anything that makes Trump look bad is fake and lies according to him and he rejects all the mainstream media which, regardless of his complaints, does serve a legitimate purpose and does broadcast SOME serious journalism

First: No, the media doesn't serve any legitimate purpose at this point. They are complete propaganda. You should be aware of this when networks can LIE about a story for YEARS and not be called out on it. Rachael Maddow did it with Russian Collusion, Fox news did this with weapons of mass destruction. There is no news media in the United States, it is PURELY propaganda.

Second: Trump can do bad things, but he's done nothing as bad as the last 4 motherfuckers we've had as president. They were garbage. They lied us into wars repeatedly, they have undermined the middle class viciously, and they have destroyed the rule of law. Hillary Clinton would have been the same, and Joe Biden would be a continuation of it.

Which brings me back to my first point - the fucking criminal propaganda media we have defends those motherfuckers, that's their ONLY purpose.

jazz_music says

On the other hand Trump has bolstered an alternate media full of conspiracies and Trump lies as if those readers were privy to special secrets, truths or inside information.

I've been thinking a lot about that lately Jazz, and the media that has sold Trump's base Wolf Tickets for the last 4 years, now know their reckoning is coming. So many of them now are joining the resistance, in a very subtle way. For instance on Breitbart, their Wires link and most of the articles in their Politics link in their menu, are mostly AP, UPI and Yahoo sourced news items. The Breitbart staff is NOT writing and covering many stories, like the Black lady using he 15 year old daughter to be racist bigots and harassed a couple because they are white. AP covered it and even said the van backed into someone as they were backing up and leaving. Leaving out the whole part, that was the mother the same woman that was causing the problem. The van did not hit the woman, but the woman said "Ima gonna beat Yo Ass!" as she pounded on her glass window. trying to give the illusion that she was struck. The lady in the car didn't realize she was back there trying to set up a fake accident pedestrian car strike. She though the lady was back there beating on her window not letting them leave, screaming... "Ima gonna beat yo Ass!" so she got out with the gun, telling them to back up.
AP didn't see fit to provide the video of the incident or a link to it.

There is no Pro Trump media they have all been systematically transformed. By bullying, boycotting, threat of banks demonizing them, and all kinds of Unconstitutional shit that will not stand the SCOTUS Muster. But now I doubt any justice will ever come of it, because most all of those 2016 pro Trump publications, have chased the management, and journalists that made those publication what they were back in 2016.

Most of what has been coming out in the last few months everything but the Burisma scam(that was new twist) was reported by The Daily Caller, The gateway Pundit, and Beitbart back in 2016. Justice is almost catching up with it now. But don't ever take BB or TDC word for it.
Jim Jordan and Tom Fitton are the only purveyors of truth left. They are trying like hell, perhaps the day of reckoning will come eventually. But none of the news sites will have the facts straight when it comes. It will be a surprise to all of them.