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ThreeBays says

Was I right?

No way to know for certain, too much politics and not enough objective analysis. “Official numbers” are riddled with doubts of conflict of interest on so many levels.

Plus, how many lives could have been saved with early use of Hydroxychloroquine/zinc cocktails (meaning give them at first sign of infection) and steroids like dexamethasone?

You neglected to predict massive demonstrations where hundred of thousands of people held hands and spit all over each other.

ThreeBays says

mell says

It's normal to see a rise in states that have not been affected much prior, doesn't necessarily mean the lockdown or lack thereof is responsible for it.

The states that are coming down are due to a combination of the shutdowns plus building a % of immunity. Most states haven't built a significant % of immunity so that's why they're still going up. Loosening shutdowns will make infections rise, but it'll be about 2 weeks before this is visible in cases and almost 3 weeks until a change in fatalities.

There were only a few days with deaths over 1k so far since the first wave and even those are less than half of the peak deaths during the first wave, despite much "higher" daily cases (testing bias). Obviously we are testing the crap out of it with some counties already having tested 25-30% of the population. At this point it's meaningless and the cat has been our of the bag since Jan/Feb already. They should open up everything with hygiene protocols/recommendation (could be left up to the owner) for indoors and larger outdoor gatherings. The lockdowns don't have much effect on Covid and the devastating long term economic consequences and lives lost due to suicide, depression, drug use and not being able or afraid to see your MD are far worse than the Covid deaths of mostly very old and immunocompromised people. Plus in early stages its very treatable with HCQ et al but people are being sacrificed for leftoid politics and TDS.

We are all fucked because we live in a free country.
Communist regimes are the lucky ones with covid 19, where every deterrence is mandatory.

MrEd says

We are all fucked because we live in a free country.
Communist regimes are the lucky ones with covid 19, where every deterrence is mandatory.

Actually you may be right in this specific case as all Western countries pretty much observe the same curves, proving that non military lockdowns don't help much. However even if you believe that China's numbers aren't royally fudged, the general life expectancy in communist countries is lower than in the Western world and Covid won't even make a dent in the numbers. So you not only live better but also longer in non communist countries on average, Covid or not. And in the end military lockdowns only delay infections and deaths at a much higher price.

Well, you're just wrong about that @APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch

I don't suppose you actually looked at any of the studies at https://c19study.com/ right? There are 66 now. If you can read English, you can understand them.

What are they odds that they are wrong in aggregate? Seem pretty damn low at this point.

HCQ + azith + zinc would save tens of thousands of lives if given EARLY.

This is science, and from all over the place.

mell says

Communist regimes are the lucky ones with covid 19, where every deterrence is mandatory.

I'm starting to believe that deaths in China really are that low.

Because they use HCQ early in the course of the disease.

Patrick says

mell says

Communist regimes are the lucky ones with covid 19, where every deterrence is mandatory.

I'm starting to believe that deaths in China really are that low.

Because they use HCQ early in the course of the disease.

Could very well be. And they probably execute you if you violate the 24 hr curfew at an infectious spot.

Slimy ass Donks!

Not many protests here in SD but if I hear of one I'm going to go hang out on the edges.

@jazz_music Sorry I was offensive before. I'm really trying to understand and reduce political polarization now.

Of course, this has nothing to do with protests, which as all of us know do not spread corona:

https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

And we should all blame Trump for this.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

CV19 is a HOAX, especially when you RALLY! FOR! TRUMP! but is FATAL! when you stand outside and yell! FUCK! THE! POLICE!, whereupon CV19 is a conspiracy to MURDER! WHITE! AMERICA! hatched by the DIABOLICAL! NEGRO! OBAMA! and HIS! WIFE!'s IMMENSE! PREHENISLE! PENIS! that could be neutralized by HCQ except that PRC SOCK! PUPPET! BIDEN! has banned it and ordered it removed from AMERICA! specifically to assure that all WHITE! PEOPLE! die horrible deaths from the HOAX!

Another excellent analysis by our oft ignored savant.

I didn't know there was a genre "homosexual, obese patient, doctor porn"?

Not that that is any of my business.

Dr. Joseph Varon, the chief medical officer of United Memorial Medical Center said he is afraid he will soon face a dilemma many doctors elsewhere said they confronted earlier in the pandemic -- deciding who to save.

"I'm afraid that at some point in time I'm going to have to make some very serious decisions," he told Reuters in an interview. "I'm starting to get the idea that I cannot save everybody."

How in the living fuck is this a “report”?!?!?

“Will soon”, “afraid”, “starting”....

Recklessly fraudulent reporting by the msm...in this case ABC....note it is not run as an opinion piece. It’s run as news reporting.

Might as well go quote the bum on the corner. Absolutely despicable.

#TDS

Onvacation says

I didn't know there was a genre "homosexual, obese patient, doctor porn"?

Not that that is any of my business.

Whoa, that's what you see there?

Here is what I was trying to get at:

1. Houston is a majority-minority city, with 25% black, 37% Hispanic or Latino, mostly Indians from former Spanish colonies.

2. Blacks and Spanish Indians make up a disproportionate number of obese people compared to white Texans.

3. Obesity greatly increases COVID-19 hospitalization and fatality rates.

Yet another reason to control illegal immigration.

@APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch can you find any flaw with my reasoning here?

https://patrick.net/post/1334216/2020-08-02-hcq-hydroxychloroquine-and-covid-19-faq

ABC is as bad as CNN on the fake news meter. The propaganda coming out of those assholes would make Pravda blush.

#TDS

Your bombastic hysteria doesn’t match the facts.

I’m sure your sarcasm will continue to drip from your keyboard like melting butter, but it still doesn’t match the actual facts.

Lemme try: ZOMG FAT HIRSUTE LESBINS DONT SHOW UP ANYWHERE ON THE DEATH RATE!!!!ULTIMATE IMMUNITY FROM COVID!!!!

In other news point me to where Texas and Florida show up on the death rates.



APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

Sure, here are some 'facts' that ABC News fabricated because they HATE! AMERICA! and want to discredit the only real PRECEDENT! that AMERICA! has ever had:

"Texas, along with California and Florida, has emerged as one of the new national hot spots. So far in July, the state has more than doubled its cases to over 400,000 total. Deaths rose by 32%, or over 1,000 lives lost, in the last week alone." This would be called news - if it weren't purely fiction concocted by SLAVES! OF! SOROS! to defame the GOD! PRECEDENT! and LAST! HOPE! OF! AMERICA!

Clearly Varon needs to be executed without trial for treason and ABC News executives tortured to death for making the PRECEDENT! look bad.

Even if these numbers were accurate - WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE! BECAUSE MSM = TERRORIST CULT BENT ON DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA! - it would only be characterizable as an INCREDIBLE VICTORY FOR THE GOD-PRECEDENT! TRUMP! AND PROOF OF HIS DIVINITY!

Why do all the patients look fat?

I don’t see any roads or highways in that picture.

Why are the Lincoln Project lying assholes?

Wait ! ! ! I think I saw a Biden supporter.

This is nothing compared to the damage that the Omarosa book did to Trump.

Yeah but all other diseases are cured.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/jail-fauci-massive-international-study-shows-countries-early-hcq-use-79-lower-mortality-rate-huge-talking-120000-american-lives/

JAIL FAUCI: Massive International Study Shows Countries with Early HCQ Use Had 79% Lower Mortality Rate — THIS IS HUGE! We Are Talking Over 100,000 American Lives!

Why do they lie all the time?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/queer-indigenous-arizona-state-university-professor-died-coronavirus-didnt-actually-exist/
A queer indigenous professor who died from Covid-19 on Friday didn’t even exist.

A very popular Twitter account belonging to a queer indigenous Arizona State University professor operating under the handle @sciencing_bi duped people in the science circles for several months.

For several months, @sciencing_bi tweeted about their battle with Coronavirus and whined about being forced to teach in-person at Arizona State back in April.

Because the idiots that be shut everything down, they just prolonged the pain. The virus has had it's second run and has already peaked again.

If politicians just kept it all open, we'd have been done with this months ago. Or if they'd stuck with the 2 weeks to allow hospitals to stock up and then mass reopen, summer woulda been completely normal.

Hospitalizations are down and declining, the so called "second wave" has already peaked, people are traveling again etc... Get the fuck over it you fear mongerers.

Stop with the fear based bullshit. We should have done what Sweden did. And our dumbass FDA should have allowed HCQ.

#TDS

He's trying not to say "yeah, we liked that part of Obamacare".

It will be interesting to see more of his proposal to repeal and replace it.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

In Texas' hard-hit Rio Grande Valley, medical professionals are still seeing a stream of COVID-19 patients, painstakingly turning them onto their stomachs to help them breathe.

Such BS. My baby sis works at the largest hospital serving that area and things have started to drop off significantly. It was bad a few weeks ago though.

However: Please don't stop entertaining me! Pretty please? Por favor?

https://spectator.us/hyperbole-radicalism-politics-exaggeration/

‘All I want for Christmas is White genocide.’ So remarked George Ciccariello-Maher, then professor of politics and global studies at Drexel University in December 2016. He was a man ahead of his time. Today his Christmas wish might qualify him for an endowed chair at a suitably woke college, but his sanguinary tweet back then resulted in a suspension and his eventual resignation. Possibly he could averted these sad consequences of his rhetorical excess if he’d had a race card to play, but George is white.

Sociology professor Johnny Eric Williams had to endure only a brief suspension from Trinity College after he counseled black emergency responders to deal with white gunshot victims with a simple procedure, ‘Let them fucking die.’ Prof Williams wrote that in the context of the June 14, 2017 shooting of six men at a practice session for the annual Congressional Baseball Game for Charity in Alexandria, Virginia. The victims, all of whom survived, included House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.

zzyzzx says

It's a crude but close enough representation of a '59 Plymouth, complete with tail fins.

https://www.google.com/search?q=1959+plymouth+front+end+images&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiKo__SzqfrAhXUQa0KHYKcCLsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=1959+plymouth+front+end+images&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDIECCMQJ1DPJljfK2DrO2gAcAB4AIABQIgBcZIBATKYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=eUk9X8qCFdSDtQWCuaLYCw&bih=710&biw=1024#imgrc=b5Trh4g9ksif5M

FuckCCP89 says

"Proxmity to Whiteness" = stable family units, a high value placed on education and hard work, and no bitching and excuse making.

Cloward-Pliven is encountering too much resistance from the "Model Minority"

Stop studying, stop achieving, Take welfare and cause the crisis of capitalism, already!