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We were at 0% mask wearing for the general public and have been at say 50% consistent mask wearing the last 2-3 months. Regardless of more testing, the mask theory doesn’t hold water. If it did, positive tests would be going down with more testing because of mask wearing. It’s not going down. Based on that info alone, masks aren’t doing what you think they are.
Now that I'm nearing the end of what I sincerely believe is my 2nd round with the rona I'm planning to schedule a flight to go visit the folks in a few weeks. I figure I'll have t-cell immunity for a little while and won't kill them because anything I pick up in transit will be eliminated immediately. After that if I keep wearing a damn mask, washing my hands too much and isolating I'll probably get it again in 6 months. Which makes me think at this point it's better for me (and likely others) if I just keep being exposed constantly to it. That'll keep up my limited immunity.
Ultimately I think that's the sort of thing that may have to happen on a large scale to mostly get rid of it.
Most people don't produce antibodies for any significant length of time if at all. This is also why a vaccine is a pipe dream BS. I'm not going to take it. Flu and others yes but not some bastardized vaccine that was quickly produced for this.
The European model shows it takes 95% participation for masks to have a positive effect.
Your 50% assumption, for a highly contagious disease, has no positive supporting data .
"eats shit"
You should be fine with a n95 mask.
mell saysYou should be fine with a n95 mask.
Turns out I have one. I found it in my tool box. I've fitted myself for respirators in labs before, where you test if you can smell things etc., however I can't get the n95 to fit as well as it should not matter what I do. If I'm wearing glasses they fog up so I know it's not really protecting from much.
I sneezed in the damn thing as well.
Either way, I doubt I could catch it again so soon after having it.
Btw, saying that someone "eats shit" is a personal attack
prodigy saysbut it does not fit your political narrative so you act like you never read it
When have I mentioned politics? I have no narrative. Just reality. You’re being fed a pile of shit and you’re eating it. Congrats.
If positive cases are increasing, it's very clear that mask wearing has little to no impact on spread.
You've done nothing to counter the fact that the vast majority of the public has been wearing masks for months now.
You're being fed bad information.
Going from 0% mask wearers to 50% is astronomical. It's a 50 bagger statistically.
Italy had 8 deaths yesterday and 5 the day before, and just 238 new cases yesterday. Don't conflate cases with deaths. The Chinese virus disease is essentially gone in Italy.
See OnVacation?
I look at world results and what the successful ones are doing.
Not anything from the MSM.
The proof is in the mask...lol
Successful countries had it up to 95% until summer hit.
Think of mask compliance as gasoline, and noncompliance as water.
It only takes a little bit of water in the tank to fuck up the car.
50% ain't gonna cut it.
Your own graph shows Germany at slightly above 60%. Are they a "successful country" or not?
MrEd saysThink of mask compliance as gasoline, and noncompliance as water.
It only takes a little bit of water in the tank to fuck up the car.
50% ain't gonna cut it.
Would 60-65% "cut it"? Like, you know, in Germany...
MrEd saysThink of mask compliance as gasoline, and noncompliance as water.
It only takes a little bit of water in the tank to fuck up the car.
50% ain't gonna cut it.
Would 60-65% "cut it"? Like, you know, in Germany...
MrEd saysWOW! What a coincidence!
mell saysItaly had 8 deaths yesterday and 5 the day before, and just 238 new cases yesterday. Don't conflate cases with deaths. The Chinese virus disease is essentially gone in Italy.
Explain Germany.
Italy has set the mark for covid 19 suppression.
Stop denying the data right before your very eyes.
Sure more Italians starting wearing masks after the impact Covid made but they are far less compliant than people in the US, as they are very affectionate people, and within the family there is usually zero distancing.
Explain Italy
Well either you are right or the chart is right. The chart shows Italy still around 90% compliance
mell saysSure more Italians starting wearing masks after the impact Covid made but they are far less compliant than people in the US, as they are very affectionate people, and within the family there is usually zero distancing.
Chart source.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-opinion-coronavirus-global-face-mask-adoption/
Note: YouGov surveys have a margin of error +/–3 percentage points and their sample size is 1,000 to 2,000 people in each country. Figures cited in the story are from their tracker survey which asks about wearing a mask in public in the past two weeks specifically to protect against coronavirus. The YouGov/Imperial College survey asks about frequency of mask usage in the past seven days.
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