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richwicks
2020 Jun 25, 7:09pm
richwicks
2020 Jun 25, 7:09pm
FortWayneIndiana says
I'm not talking about merely religious people.
I'm talking about people that are outspokenly religious.
People who announce, at every possible opportunity, they are Christian or whatever. When people do this, I am guarded. In almost every case the person is using religion as a cover.
The people that run Gab have sabotaged Dissenter but this nitwit goes on about how religious he is. I don't have much faith in the people running Gab. Dissenter is basically dead, it was created - in my opinion - to destroy the idea of a general commenting system that runs on top of ALL websites. It's a good idea - but it cannot be monetized, they hobbled it severely by breaking the interface to it, and they don't promote it one fucking bit. I don't trust the "Christian" creator of Gab.
The reason he claims to be religious is to gain trust, I don't think he's trustworthy.
That hasn't been my experience. Most religious people I know are just nice people who see things through the eye of good and bad as defined by the bible.
I'm not talking about merely religious people.
I'm talking about people that are outspokenly religious.
People who announce, at every possible opportunity, they are Christian or whatever. When people do this, I am guarded. In almost every case the person is using religion as a cover.
The people that run Gab have sabotaged Dissenter but this nitwit goes on about how religious he is. I don't have much faith in the people running Gab. Dissenter is basically dead, it was created - in my opinion - to destroy the idea of a general commenting system that runs on top of ALL websites. It's a good idea - but it cannot be monetized, they hobbled it severely by breaking the interface to it, and they don't promote it one fucking bit. I don't trust the "Christian" creator of Gab.
The reason he claims to be religious is to gain trust, I don't think he's trustworthy.
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Automan Empire
2020 Jun 26, 8:46am
Automan Empire
2020 Jun 26, 8:46am
WookieMan says
Strongly agrees with my own life experience. People like FortWayne unwittingly lend support and credibility to these opportunistic scum.
I am thinking of a used car lot in town that clanged their religion like a bell in front of them. On their sign, the phone number used a Jesus fish as the hyphen. On the office was a big banner with a bible quote, and for a while they had a small changeable message board with bible quotes. Like many used car dealers, they bought turds cheaply at auction and put most effort into cosmetic repairs and polishing. Once I bought a needy old car from them that they took as a trade. After 2 months and several calls they still hadn't sent the title. Strict laws govern the timing of this for car dealers. So I went in person, was ushered into a quiet back office festooned with crosses and religious knicknacks. The suited fop piously chided me for my impatience and reassured me the title would be sent soon. A few days later it showed up in the mail; accompanied by a glossy 5 color litho'd bible tract on TRUST. The title had obviously been sitting in their office the whole time, it wasn't a duplicate that had just arrived in the mail as they claimed.
Another guy, 50s executive at a regional hospital chain, another conspicuous bible thumper. He hit something on the freeway which caused some undercar damage. He proceeded to try to claim that other issues with the car were also caused by the accident, including a bent wheel that was clearly older damage and too far away from the recent damage to be from the same object. He kind of laid into the adjuster, getting a bit dickishly insistent and petulant. Well the insurer paid out for the damage for the incident, denied the remainder of his claims, then in a there-is-a-God-after-all move, raised his annual premium by more than the amount he tried to falsely pile on to his claim.
Religion is a cover for a lot of bad people like you say.
"Oh Bill the plumber is an honest man because he goes to church every Sunday and donates all sorts of money..." Well, Bill has been using the church for business networking and then making up fake repairs and uncharging the fuck out of you because you don't know plumbing, but you think he's an honest guy. You see it all the time if you look.
Strongly agrees with my own life experience. People like FortWayne unwittingly lend support and credibility to these opportunistic scum.
I am thinking of a used car lot in town that clanged their religion like a bell in front of them. On their sign, the phone number used a Jesus fish as the hyphen. On the office was a big banner with a bible quote, and for a while they had a small changeable message board with bible quotes. Like many used car dealers, they bought turds cheaply at auction and put most effort into cosmetic repairs and polishing. Once I bought a needy old car from them that they took as a trade. After 2 months and several calls they still hadn't sent the title. Strict laws govern the timing of this for car dealers. So I went in person, was ushered into a quiet back office festooned with crosses and religious knicknacks. The suited fop piously chided me for my impatience and reassured me the title would be sent soon. A few days later it showed up in the mail; accompanied by a glossy 5 color litho'd bible tract on TRUST. The title had obviously been sitting in their office the whole time, it wasn't a duplicate that had just arrived in the mail as they claimed.
Another guy, 50s executive at a regional hospital chain, another conspicuous bible thumper. He hit something on the freeway which caused some undercar damage. He proceeded to try to claim that other issues with the car were also caused by the accident, including a bent wheel that was clearly older damage and too far away from the recent damage to be from the same object. He kind of laid into the adjuster, getting a bit dickishly insistent and petulant. Well the insurer paid out for the damage for the incident, denied the remainder of his claims, then in a there-is-a-God-after-all move, raised his annual premium by more than the amount he tried to falsely pile on to his claim.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Jun 26, 9:47am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Jun 26, 9:47am
Tenpoundbass says
Yeah funny how that works out right? Christians help, and all Christians get at the end is utter hatred from the left that is screaming "pull down Jesus".
The left, specifically the gay groups (who just want to be irresponsible and fucked up) hate religion. Because being a pedophile is not compatible with Christianity. So they've been spending years blaming Christianity, media controlled by their leftist sympathizers constantly blaming Christians for problems. Removed Christianity from schools. And Christianity for those reasons isn't popular in some states, propaganda here in CA won. It defeated good, good lost here, the evil won.
It's sad, but many companies out here go all out to celebrate "gay pride" for a whole fucking month just because gay groups told them to, as if fucking dudes in the ass is an achievement of some kind. But will not celebrate birth of a baby, will not celebrate family, will not celebrate god, will not celebrate Amerca.
Christians have always defended every group.
Yeah funny how that works out right? Christians help, and all Christians get at the end is utter hatred from the left that is screaming "pull down Jesus".
The left, specifically the gay groups (who just want to be irresponsible and fucked up) hate religion. Because being a pedophile is not compatible with Christianity. So they've been spending years blaming Christianity, media controlled by their leftist sympathizers constantly blaming Christians for problems. Removed Christianity from schools. And Christianity for those reasons isn't popular in some states, propaganda here in CA won. It defeated good, good lost here, the evil won.
It's sad, but many companies out here go all out to celebrate "gay pride" for a whole fucking month just because gay groups told them to, as if fucking dudes in the ass is an achievement of some kind. But will not celebrate birth of a baby, will not celebrate family, will not celebrate god, will not celebrate Amerca.
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WookieMan
2020 Jun 26, 9:50am
WookieMan
2020 Jun 26, 9:50am
Automan Empire says
My uncle is this. That's why I think this way. He's super religious, but it's all a con job. He has a $7M home in Scottsdale off the backs of other people.
I respect religious people, but you have to be guarded when dealing with them in a business environment. My uncle was a contractor for big subdivision builders. He'd bid his portion of work (high 6 to 7 figure work) and then tack on 10-30% for "whatever" he wanted as fun money. Had the ability to lien the property and prevent developers from getting lien releases so they could get more money from the bank to finish the project. Basically is was pay me or your fucked knowing most developers are leveraged and don't have a ton of cash on hand and need that lien release to get more funds for the next phase.
My guesstimate of net worth is $50-70M knowing what he owns and how he dealt. Religion was always the cover when he'd upcharge. He does it with us when we visit. My Dad had cancer and it was always "I pray for you every day." WTF? No you don't. It's why Catholics have confession. They lie. Just makes them feel better about their lying because they at least told someone. Makes the lie/con okay.
Strongly agrees with my own life experience
My uncle is this. That's why I think this way. He's super religious, but it's all a con job. He has a $7M home in Scottsdale off the backs of other people.
I respect religious people, but you have to be guarded when dealing with them in a business environment. My uncle was a contractor for big subdivision builders. He'd bid his portion of work (high 6 to 7 figure work) and then tack on 10-30% for "whatever" he wanted as fun money. Had the ability to lien the property and prevent developers from getting lien releases so they could get more money from the bank to finish the project. Basically is was pay me or your fucked knowing most developers are leveraged and don't have a ton of cash on hand and need that lien release to get more funds for the next phase.
My guesstimate of net worth is $50-70M knowing what he owns and how he dealt. Religion was always the cover when he'd upcharge. He does it with us when we visit. My Dad had cancer and it was always "I pray for you every day." WTF? No you don't. It's why Catholics have confession. They lie. Just makes them feel better about their lying because they at least told someone. Makes the lie/con okay.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Jun 26, 9:52am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Jun 26, 9:52am
WookieMan says
I actually really hate people like that. Like I said, I've known people like that too. Because they don't even try to live a good life, they just live a life of being an asshole. Most Christians I know, don't do that. They are human, still make mistakes, but they don't live a life of being an asshole to others. That dude might as well just be an anti Christ.
Religion was always the cover when he'd upcharge.
I actually really hate people like that. Like I said, I've known people like that too. Because they don't even try to live a good life, they just live a life of being an asshole. Most Christians I know, don't do that. They are human, still make mistakes, but they don't live a life of being an asshole to others. That dude might as well just be an anti Christ.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Jun 26, 9:56am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Jun 26, 9:56am
I think you guys are overestimating the bad people, but of course bad people exist everywhere.
I will say that the pastor of the church I attend was formerly the ceo of a fairly large company. He has said that some of his worst employees were Christians.
If there weren’t bad people exploiting God for their own benefit, we wouldn’t have a so g like this
www.youtube.com/embed/AcQlKoxu8oM
I will say that the pastor of the church I attend was formerly the ceo of a fairly large company. He has said that some of his worst employees were Christians.
If there weren’t bad people exploiting God for their own benefit, we wouldn’t have a so g like this
www.youtube.com/embed/AcQlKoxu8oM
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WookieMan
2020 Jun 26, 10:05am
WookieMan
2020 Jun 26, 10:05am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
I'm actually not sure what my estimate would be. I think your teacher, grocery store cashier, average W-2 employee are in religion for what it is about.
Business owners are where you need to tread lightly. That could be 10% or 50% of a church. So it's kind of a moving target. I have no problem with religion overall. It does help people through charity and helping people hitting hard times. So it's an overall good. It's just upsetting when you see it used as cover for someone doing something shady.
I think you guys are overestimating the bad people, but of course bad people exist everywhere.
I'm actually not sure what my estimate would be. I think your teacher, grocery store cashier, average W-2 employee are in religion for what it is about.
Business owners are where you need to tread lightly. That could be 10% or 50% of a church. So it's kind of a moving target. I have no problem with religion overall. It does help people through charity and helping people hitting hard times. So it's an overall good. It's just upsetting when you see it used as cover for someone doing something shady.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 26, 10:14am
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 26, 10:14am
My company used to do some work for religious sounding companies. Names like "Grace Financial" or "Providence Auto Loans". Big on having Fishes & Crucifixes.
Talked to the owner, walked him through some stuff, to make convo I said, "So, you're a Christian company?"
"Oh no, we only called it that because our target is working poor people who value faith, and associate it with trust. I never go to church"
Talked to the owner, walked him through some stuff, to make convo I said, "So, you're a Christian company?"
"Oh no, we only called it that because our target is working poor people who value faith, and associate it with trust. I never go to church"
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 26, 10:21am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 26, 10:21am
NoCoupForYou says
Legitimate Christians don’t need to rely on “religious goods” as evidence of their faith.
But the point of the OP is that Christians are becoming a disrespected, and in many cases persecuted group. The very same faith that inspired and influenced the birth of this nation is about to become classified as divisive and outlawed.
Big on having Fishes & Crucifixes.
Legitimate Christians don’t need to rely on “religious goods” as evidence of their faith.
But the point of the OP is that Christians are becoming a disrespected, and in many cases persecuted group. The very same faith that inspired and influenced the birth of this nation is about to become classified as divisive and outlawed.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 26, 10:58am
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 26, 10:58am
thomasdong1776 says
That's what they used to say about White People.
he idea that Christians are persecuted in this country is ludicrous.
That's what they used to say about White People.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 26, 7:05pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 26, 7:05pm
NoCoupForYou says
Exactly NoCoup!
https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/5/29/18644354/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-donations-homophobia-dan-cathy
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/discrimination-against-christian-students-on-campus.cfm
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/20/686988268/video-of-kentucky-students-mocking-native-american-man-draws-outcry
https://wreg.com/news/coronavirus/mississippi-churchgoers-fined-500-while-attending-drive-in-service/
Nope, Christians are never persecuted for living their convictions.
thomasdong1776 sayshe idea that Christians are persecuted in this country is ludicrous.
That's what they used to say about White People.
Exactly NoCoup!
https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/5/29/18644354/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-donations-homophobia-dan-cathy
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/discrimination-against-christian-students-on-campus.cfm
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/20/686988268/video-of-kentucky-students-mocking-native-american-man-draws-outcry
https://wreg.com/news/coronavirus/mississippi-churchgoers-fined-500-while-attending-drive-in-service/
Nope, Christians are never persecuted for living their convictions.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 26, 7:12pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 26, 7:12pm
Good News! Judge invalidates NYC/NYS double standards on religious services, calls Cuomo and DeBlasio regs violations of Constitution.
https://patrick.net/post/1333401/2020-06-27-judge-rules-deblasio-and-cuomo-discriminated-against-religion-invalidates-covid-regs
https://patrick.net/post/1333401/2020-06-27-judge-rules-deblasio-and-cuomo-discriminated-against-religion-invalidates-covid-regs
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ignoreme
2020 Jun 26, 7:45pm
WookieMan says
The confession wouldn’t be valid if you weren’t sorry for what you did. You can’t just screw people over then confess with the intention of doing it again and expect forgiveness.
For me the real value of confession isn’t the sin forgiveness anyways, it’s the reflection you do beforehand. How often do you take time to sit and think about how you’re behaving and how you could do better? Most people never. It’s a course correction so you can be happier.
Just makes them feel better about their lying because they at least told someone. Makes the lie/con okay.
The confession wouldn’t be valid if you weren’t sorry for what you did. You can’t just screw people over then confess with the intention of doing it again and expect forgiveness.
For me the real value of confession isn’t the sin forgiveness anyways, it’s the reflection you do beforehand. How often do you take time to sit and think about how you’re behaving and how you could do better? Most people never. It’s a course correction so you can be happier.
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Patrick
2020 Jun 27, 11:11am
Patrick
2020 Jun 27, 11:11am
At least the church they belong to has the guts to stand up and refuse BLM demands for public grovelling:
Demands for tearful public apologies were routinely used by the Chinese Communist Party and other totalitarian groups to make it look like no one could escape, and that all people would be forced to bend to the will of the extremists.
Demands for tearful public apologies were routinely used by the Chinese Communist Party and other totalitarian groups to make it look like no one could escape, and that all people would be forced to bend to the will of the extremists.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Aug 6, 12:19pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Aug 6, 12:19pm
Wear the US Flag and sue.
Remember under Nadine when the ACLU would sue to allow kids to wear Jesus shirts?
Remember under Nadine when the ACLU would sue to allow kids to wear Jesus shirts?
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SunnyvaleCA
2020 Aug 6, 12:42pm
NoCoupForYou says
Ah the ACLU, the organization formerly supporting civil liberties. Those were the good old days!
Wear the US Flag and sue.
Remember under Nadine when the ACLU would sue to allow kids to wear Jesus shirts?
Ah the ACLU, the organization formerly supporting civil liberties. Those were the good old days!
I'm not a believer myself, but I'm sympathetic to Christianity because Jesus didn't rob, rape, or murder anyone, unlike, say, Mohammed. Christianity has a far better claim to be a religion of peace than Islam, which is loved by the left as a way to destroy America.
We need to defend Christianity to save our own lives from the leftist mob which is trying to destroy everything that brought us down to the present day.
If we do not speak up and defend Christians now, there will be no one left to defend us when its our own turn.