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Patrick says

A programmer friend of mine is leaving the Bay Area to work in Austin.

is he a libbiefuck, or a normal individual?

NoCoupForYou says

Trump will win. FL, NC, TX for sure, and enough of either WI, MN, or PA to seal the deal.

Texas and Florida aren't in play - take it to the bank.

Georgia is going blue! Biden showed 'compassion' during second debate and looks like it is working for those young and too old who thinks virus is dangerous as per KQED political debate and they are voting in record number.

Dbr6 says

Patrick says

A programmer friend of mine is leaving the Bay Area to work in Austin.

is he a libbiefuck, or a normal individual?

He's pretty normal. Never heard him express any political opinions actually.

I think his motive for moving was taxes because he wants to cash out a lot of options and not pay CA state income taxes. So he has to cut all ties with CA.

Three metals you should own if Biden wins:

Gold
Silver
Brass

rocketjoe79 says

Blue - sounds like a troll name. 1 post, 458 comments. So, a reactionary reader/lurker. Poking the bear. Fine. Play it that way. I'm on to your game.

I posted based on what I just watched - what is wrong?

My mother in law hates Trump, did from day one. She told my wife and I, just the other day, she will not vote for Biden. So she is either voting for Trump or not at all.

Ripped off from another thread:

Trump will win. It will be a landslide that won’t even allow Dems to question the votes. I actually hope they just admit defeat, the party implodes, and the they get out of the fringe SJW type shit that affects only 3-4% of the population. Go ahead and be gay, it’s only important to you and is attention seeking.

Fact is Biden is not capable regardless of any corruption rumors. He’s senile.

Blue says

Georgia is going blue

That is what they said last time and it wasn't even close. Trump won GA by something like 5.1%, and will do better this time.

Trump will win. It will be a landslide that won’t even allow Dems to question the votes.

I sure hope you are right. I am concerned that Trump may have scared a few politicians when asked Biden to explain how he could afford 4 houses and other wealth acquired on a government paycheck. These other politicians, plus the people who bribed them, will work very hard to scam the election to keep Trump out.

I remember along with Saint Obama Dems used to tout how humble and pure Biden was, and they cited his low net worth compared to others in Congress. LOL, he was just running his bribes through his children and brothers as beards.

GlocknLoad says

My mother in law hates Trump, did from day one. She told my wife and I, just the other day, she will not vote for Biden. So she is either voting for Trump or not at all.

This election may turn out even more strange than previous one...I also have anecdotal stories like this, but I am not sure how widespread such things are. Then again I see more Biden signs in my neighborhood than I saw Clinton signs 4 yrs ago.

Blue says

Georgia is going blue! Biden showed 'compassion' during second debate and looks like it is working for those young and too old who thinks virus is dangerous as per KQED political debate and they are voting in record number.

No chance, the Senate Race has Perdue in a comfortable lead. Georgia is absolutely not in Play, neither is TX or SC.

Dbr6 says

Then again I see more Biden signs in my neighborhood than I saw Clinton signs 4 yrs ago.

I see slightly more Biden signs around, but I view it as more of a sign of their desperation. I'm also inclined to think that a lot of the traditional dark blue states will end up being lite blue this time.

rocketjoe79 says

Blue - sounds like a troll name.

nope, I think he is a real person and is not trolling - I had reasonable discussion with him in another thread

Dbr6 says

rocketjoe79 says

Blue - sounds like a troll name.

nope, I think he is a real person and is not trolling - I had reasonable discussion with him in another thread

Ok, I retract my statement! Deleting my post and self cancelling :)

I just had a long discussion with someone whose friend a business man a frequent traveler to Midwest, told him that Trump will win in landslide in those areas.

Blue I think there is a rather large contingent of people from India in Atlanta. Maybe similar to Houston?

Anyhow, what do those people think? I'm assuming some decided to become citizens and can vote but I'm more curious about the overall opinion if that's something you're able to share.

HeadSet says

Trump in a narrow Electoral College victory.

That would mean Trump would lose is some states he won in 2016. I do not see that happening.

Up until this week I had Biden eeking out a victory in PA. Based on the last debate I'm not so sure.

As we get more educated, professional immigrants coming to this Country, they tend to vote Right-wing especially when they see the ridiculous Left-wing antics...it's embarrassing.

Buzz Aldrin, 90, endorses McSally over Kelly

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/buzz-aldrin-martha-mcsally-arizona

just_adhom_preaching says

Blue I think there is a rather large contingent of people from India in Atlanta. Maybe similar to Houston?

Anyhow, what do those people think? I'm assuming some decided to become citizens and can vote but I'm more curious about the overall opinion if that's something you're able to share.

Unfortunately most of them are commies. My best guess is 30% Republicans. But a recent survey says 22% R who will vote for Trump. Interestingly, in my interactions many 'smart' and including U.S.-born went to top schools still commies!! with no tolerance (scary!) that is really puzzling. People who took citizenship tend to be less commie and turns right wing if they become entrepreneur in particular. Even more sad, this time some folks are attracted to Kamala Harris not realizing that she is fully against India because there is a right wing party in power and she is a lover and supporter of Islamic Pakistan along with her fellow Islamic lover Pramila Jayapal (WA-D) who chased an Indian diplomat last year with her Islamic views.

I've been thinking about this. In 2016 I remember driving home from work on election night and the right wing am talk radio shows were imploring the base to get out and vote because "this thing isn't over".

With less people commuting and more early voting, will the Republicans be able to get their base out in equal or better numbers relative to four years ago?

I stand by that Trump will win, but I expect most states will be closer than they were four years ago.

GreaterNYCDude says

With less people commuting and more early voting, will the Republicans be able to get their base out in equal or better numbers relative to four years ago?

If they had reason to vote Trump in 2016, they have those reasons TIMES A THOUSAND to vote Trump today! The Deplorables will show up, don’t you worry!

GreaterNYCDude says

With less people commuting and more early voting, will the Republicans be able to get their base out in equal or better numbers relative to four years ago?

Trump's popularity among Republicans is much higher this time. It won't be an issue.

Blue says

many 'smart' and including U.S.-born went to top schools still commies!! with no tolerance (scary!) that is really puzzling. People who took citizenship tend to be less commie

I see the same in E. European contingent. Parents/grandparents ran away from commies and are reliably (80+%) quite right wing. They worked hard, started as janitors etc in 1950's/60's, became affluent after many yrs of hard work, now kids/grandkids went to Yale and are full blown fucking commies, ignoring fact that than granddads brother was killed by ideological twins of antifa.

became affluent after many yrs of hard work, now kids/grandkids went to Yale and are full blown fucking commies

Looks like they became just like the rest of the Americans. If you look you will find most Socialist types are the spoiled offspring living off the productivity of their parents/grandparents.

Dbr6 says

People who took citizenship tend to be less commie

I see the same in E. European contingent. Parents/grandparents ran away from commies and are reliably (80+%) quite right wing.

In a previous job, I noticed some suspicious web traffic coming from Russia and said out loud "Nothing good comes out of Russia." But then I realized that one of the guys was a Russian immigrant. I apologized, but he said no need at all, he agreed completely. He loves America and calls himself "Americanski" if anyone asks about his accent.

I actually think Russia has given the world a lot, but the country itself has been very corrupt ever since the Communists took control. The Tsarists at least seemed to have a strong sense of honor and morals.

Human nature is full of riddles and contradictions; its very complexity engenders art—and by art I mean the search for something more than simple linear formulations, flat solutions, oversimplified explanations. One of these riddles is: how is it that people who have been crushed by the sheer weight of slavery and cast to the bottom of the pit can nevertheless find strength to rise up and free themselves, first in spirit and then in body; while those who soar unhampered over the peaks of freedom suddenly appear to lose the taste for freedom, lose the will to defend it, and, hopelessly confused and lost, almost begin to crave slavery. Or again: why is it that societies which have been benumbed for half a century by lies they have been forced to swallow find within themselves a certain lucidity of heart and soul which enables them to see things in their true perspective and to perceive the real meaning of events; whereas societies with access to every kind of information suddenly plunge into lethargy, into a kind of mass blindness, a kind of voluntary self deception.

― Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Warning to the West

It is astonishing that Communism has been writing about itself in the most open way, in black and white, for 125 years, and even more openly, more candidly in the beginning. The Communist Manifesto, for instance, which everyone knows by name and which almost no one takes the trouble to read, contains even more terrible things than what has actually been done. It is perfectly amazing. The whole world can read, everyone is literate, yet somehow no one wants to understand. Humanity acts as if it does not understand what Communism is, as if it does not want to understand, is not capable of understanding.

― Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Warning to the West

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/3077236-warning-to-the-west

BayArea says

In 2016, Vegas betting odds were as high as -900 for Hillary Clinton on Election Day. Today they are -180 for Biden.

What that means is that Hillary was 4x more likely to win the election against trump than Biden to win the election against trump.

And every week vegas betting odds gets it very wrong on a lot of football games too. Raiders were suppose to get demolished by the chiefs last week. Vegas gets it wrong.

Patrick says

I actually think Russia has given the world a lot, but the country itself has been very corrupt ever since the Communists took control. The Tsarists at least seemed to have a strong sense of honor and morals.

The Tsarists always struggled with the nobility and bureaucracy, who creatively interpreted their instructions and squeezed the peasants like mad.

Ivan was "The Terrible" for executing those who disregarded his instructions or were venial; but to Everyday Russians he was Ivan the Great.

Biden admits to voter fraud:
https://pjmedia.com/election/victoria-taft/2020/10/24/joes-freudian-sniff-joe-biden-just-said-hes-got-a-great-voter-fraud-operation-going-n1085043

BoomAndBustCycle says

BayArea says

In 2016, Vegas betting odds were as high as -900 for Hillary Clinton on Election Day. Today they are -180 for Biden.

What that means is that Hillary was 4x more likely to win the election against trump than Biden to win the election against trump.

And every week vegas betting odds gets it very wrong on a lot of football games too. Raiders were suppose to get demolished by the chiefs last week. Vegas gets it wrong.

Their entire industry relies on getting it right most of the time. Otherwise they wouldn’t be in business. Do you know how sports betting works?

Patrick says

Dbr6 says

People who took citizenship tend to be less commie

I see the same in E. European contingent. Parents/grandparents ran away from commies and are reliably (80+%) quite right wing.

In a previous job, I noticed some suspicious web traffic coming from Russia and said out loud "Nothing good comes out of Russia." But then I realized that one of the guys was a Russian immigrant. I apologized, but he said no need at all, he agreed completely. He loves America and calls himself "Americanski" if anyone asks about his accent.

I actually think Russia has given the world a lot, but the country itself has been very corrupt ever since the Communists took control. The Tsarists at least seemed to have a strong sense of honor and morals.

My grandparents and father had to flee Communist China in the 50s. They confiscated both of my grandparents families wealth. My grandfather owned a fishing ferry and the soldiers boarded it, threw him off, and shot at him in the water. My guess was, it was only an amount of time that they took their homes from them as well as they were larger than the peasants in town. So they fled to Hong Kong and made there way here...as immigrants with nothing. They worked their way up to own 2 very successful restaurants in NJ. They loved this country and never looked back. My experience has been, most families that fled the CCP in those days feel that way. Of course, there weren't many that were allowed to flee after that in the 60 to the 90s.

Every Russian immigrant (6 at this point if you count one from Ukraine (then Soviet Union)) I have worked with has been awesome.

TrumpingTits says

Dbr6 says

Then again I see more Biden signs in my neighborhood than I saw Clinton signs 4 yrs ago.

That is interesting as I have seen zilch on Biden signs & Bumperstickers.

Same boat. Only one house in my town has a Biden sign. I bike and walk (only bike now with a broken heel) for light exercise and there are only 800 homes, so yes I've been down every street in town. Some have signs for Democrats running locally for State Rep and the like. But no Biden here. My county barely went Hillary in '16 and it's 100% going to be flipped this time. No chance Biden wins my county this time around.

I'm interested big time in Cook county though. If Trump is getting more Hispanic and Black support, it's not impossible for him to flip IL. Hillary had home state and town loyalty here in IL. Biden doesn't. If he could flip 200k votes in Cook from Biden, it's a possibility. The counties outside of Chicago, Peoria and Champaign are going to be landslide Trump counties. There's no big Libertarian party candidate that I've heard much about either, which Gary Johnson got almost 4% last time. Those people will most certainly be for Trump this time around.

I don't know. I've posted this in other threads, but I think IL might be in play for real as I keep examining this. That would be the cherry on top of the bloodbath that I think this election is going to be for Biden. Our previous governor was Republican, so it's not impossible. Our current governor is highly unpopular with his Covid response. We'll see.

WookieMan says

I've posted this in other threads, but I think IL might be in play for real as I keep examining this.

I hope you are right but on the other hand my pessimism is telling me that while the anti-Trump white woman vote has hardened the pro-Trump white working class vote that got him elected has cooled since Trump seems to have abandoned his America first platform in going after the black and Hispanic vote which I think isn’t ultimately going to show up for him at the polls.

This election is too close for comfort for me.

ignoreme says

I hope you are right but on the other hand my pessimism is telling me that while the anti-Trump white woman vote has hardened the pro-Trump white working class vote that got him elected has cooled since Trump seems to have abandoned his America first platform in going after the black and Hispanic vote which I think isn’t ultimately going to show up for him at the polls.

Makes sense. I'm a very anecdotal person though admittedly. There's nothing even remotely approaching enthusiasm for Biden in a Blue state like IL. Maybe they just think they have it in the bag? People that I know are talking about voting for Trump that I never would have thought of and they were vehemently against him in '16.

The no new war (when was the last time that happened?) and signing the ME deals with a few countries was a huge deal for a lot of voters. I think both those things appeal to women and working class dads who have sons. White, black, brown or yellow. Most people got a tax break. Even with Covid, many people ended up making more than they would have working (I hate the debt, but people will attribute that to Trump).

The weak spot is healthcare which the status quo is what people have been used to since Obamacare passed. So it's not a huge negative. The Dems have colluded to smash the economy through Covid fear and I think even the morons can see through the BS they're putting out and getting pissed at Dem leaders. #2020Bloodbath

ignoreme says

WookieMan says

I've posted this in other threads, but I think IL might be in play for real as I keep examining this.

I hope you are right but on the other hand my pessimism is telling me that while the anti-Trump white woman vote has hardened the pro-Trump white working class vote that got him elected has cooled since Trump seems to have abandoned his America first platform in going after the black and Hispanic vote which I think isn’t ultimately going to show up for him at the polls.

This election is too close for comfort for me.

Why do you think that? Policy-wise it's still very much America first. Blacks and hispanics are also mostly American citizens. Ultimately any president will need their vote to win and should get it to get the nation united.

Patrick says

Nothing good comes out of Russia

I kinda agree with this sentiment - this is my bias and prejudice.

Trump will roll to an easy victory on election day but wont be declared a winner.......the dems will claim that there are many votes in the mail and then the shenanigans will begin.....there will be rioting in the streets........the courts will have to get involved.....in other words, a shitstorm... in the end Trump will be president for 4 more years